AMS OPERATIONAL AWARDS NO 30 - 7 MARCH 08

#1
I would like to congratulate the following officers and soldier on their recent OP awards, especially Pte Main RAMC, the only one to gain a gallantry award, for her various gallant actions in Iraq and well deserved.

IRAQ

Mention in Despatches (MiD)

Private MAIN Royal Army Medical Corps

AFGHANISTAN

Officer of The Order of The British Empire (OBE)


Lieutenant Colonel MAHONEY Royal Army Medical Corps

Queen's Commendation for Valuable Service (QCVS)

Lieutenant PRITCHARD Queen Alexandra's Royal Army Nursing Corps

Well done to all

in arduis fidelis
 
#2
Entirely agree - very well done to all of them especially Pte Main!
All have shown the highest standards of selfless commitment and determination. They are a credit to the AMS.
 
#3
I hate to say this, but once again we are poorly represented in the Op awards!!!! See previous threads about why we reckon this is.......... :roll:

But well done, none-the-less folks...... :clap:
 
#6
bloodthirsty1 said:
hate to say this, but once again we are poorly represented in the Op awards!!!! See previous threads about why we reckon this is..........

With the exception of 16 CS who do the shortest tours and love to blow their own trumpets !
Except for HERRICK 4 when the unit had folk deployed from early February through to the middle of October...and HERRICK 8...
 
#8
Times on Line said:
he will not be allowed to wear the Nato award because army rules do not permit soldiers to wear non-British medals
not entirely true is it? I have NATO and UN gongs which are non-British, others I know wear US Bronze Stars, I think comment should have been made to clarify the fact that wearing non-British gongs and double gonging can be done if Liz gives the nod, however getting the 2 gallantry medals for the same deed! it would be the same if the Afghan govt wanted to give him a piece of tin for it as well, 3 medals for the same deed!
He will get the NATO one, why not get it framed with the citation and stick it on his wall.

We are not the septics who dish medals out like sweets, double gonging with non-Brit medals may be seen as devaluing the British award and possibly the deed.
 
#9
Congratulations to all....

However its a bit thin.....

Perhaps those commanders on the ground could pay a little more attention to what the dismounts get up to and write up the deeds of troops a little more often, if they actually get any eyes on these days that is...and why not, others do.
 
#12
Filbert Fox said:
Times on Line said:
he will not be allowed to wear the Nato award because army rules do not permit soldiers to wear non-British medals
not entirely true is it? I have NATO and UN gongs which are non-British, others I know wear US Bronze Stars, I think comment should have been made to clarify the fact that wearing non-British gongs and double gonging can be done if Liz gives the nod, however getting the 2 gallantry medals for the same deed! it would be the same if the Afghan govt wanted to give him a piece of tin for it as well, 3 medals for the same deed!
He will get the NATO one, why not get it framed with the citation and stick it on his wall.

We are not the septics who dish medals out like sweets, double gonging with non-Brit medals may be seen as devaluing the British award and possibly the deed.
The first quote is rubbish about not being allowed to wear non British awards, as long as you have permission by Her Maj you can wear it, thats been in force for years. The qoute about double awards is wrong as well, yes it is true that you can't wear the likes of the ISAF medal because you get the OSM but you are allowed to wear two awards for the same deed, this would happen a lot in WW2 especially with the French Croix de Guerre, I know for a fact that Maj John Howard got both the DSO and Croix de Guerre for his leadership at Pegasus Bridge and wore them both with permission, I know becuase I have seen them.

I wonder if the comment is made by the CO without actually researching it
 
#13
Karabiner said:
recommendations then have to go through several layers of filtering by the chain of command (outwith the AMS) and beyond.
does that include the civvie at AMD who gets first sight of all nominations and says 'dont bother it wont get past the SG'? cynical? me?
 
#14
Filbert you old cynic our Corps has a splendid record of honours and awards especially for soldier ranks we were unlucky on this occasion but wait for the new years honours, It will be packed with DMS soldiers just like last year.
 
#16
Filbert Fox said:
Karabiner said:
recommendations then have to go through several layers of filtering by the chain of command (outwith the AMS) and beyond.
does that include the civvie at AMD who gets first sight of all nominations and says 'dont bother it wont get past the SG'? cynical? me?
Methinks you are slightly confused about the route that honours applications follow; the only awards that flow routinely through AMD are NY & QB nominations for the ARRC/RRC and nominations for OStJ. The administrative and not the functional (medical) chain is followed for other awards.

I think you'll find that unless SG nominates an individual for an award he is only involved as an executive in OStJ nominations.
 
#17
Im not confused (well I am really, how can a civvie be the buffer on whether or not a nomination goes before the SG? is a serving officers view of why a soldier should receive an award the same as a non-serving civvie? nominations may get to the SG and he says 'bollox, no chance, I'm not signing that fcuker!' or he may have said 'good lad, I'll stick my squiggle on that' to another if he'd actually seen it had it not been binned by this bloke before hand, or maybe the SG has told Mr Civ Div 'dont send me any crap about RAMC other ranks and MBEs, doctors yes but I dont want any johnny come lately having the same gong as me') dispite the title of the thread it is the nominations for the NY and QB lists that I was on about.
I have first hand experience of said civvie giving it the 'dont bother' line.
 
#19
Ventress said:
Have you been at the diesel again?
Well they fcuking started it, same sh1te different day. We had this whole thread at New Year and look again 3 (well earned) awards. My pot is half full not half empty bollocks.
 

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