Ammunition Technician

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  1. I'll start with a bit of background information:

    I'm 17 and currently undergoing the application process to become an Ammunition Technician. I got a score of 59 on my BARB test (I'm told it was higher than average) and was recommended for the AT trade (along with the Intelligence Corps and RMP). I was orginally planning on going to university but hated the idea of spiralling into debt whilst being sat on my arse all day in a classroom.

    Now you've got the background, I've got a few questions if anyone can answer them (my AFCO literally gave me one-word answers):

    1) What is AT training like?;
    2) What does an AT do before specialising in EOD? (I was told "Looking after bullets");
    3) What are the operational postings for ATs?; and
    4) Is there a high chance (if one is up to the mark) of serving with Special Forces/Commandos or Airborne units?

    I'd be greatful for any help or input, Cheers.
     
  2. 1) - Your basic Ammunition Technician course consists of a 9 month course at the Army School Of Ammunition. This consists of a variety of subjects ranging from storage of ammunition to the technical aspects of all ammunition used by the british army. From how it works to hoe to dispose (Blow up) of it.

    2) - May be a bit different now as I did my course a few years ago but from what I can understand after passing your basic course (which will qualify you as a Class 2 Ammunition Technician and give you the rank of LCpl) you will spend the first year to 2 years at a depot environment. This is the bread and butter of the trade and is basically the surveillance and repair of all ammunition. Then upon gaining your Cpl which takes roughly a year to two years from passing your basic course. You could possibly the complete either the Joint Service IEDD Operator No 2 or the High Threat IEDD Operator No 2. This will qaulify you as the 2ic of an EOD team which involves the driving of the wheelbarrow. Husbandry of all the EOD team kit, etc. To get into the Operator side of doing IEDD you have to be a minimum of a Sgt and have to have completed the JSIEDD No 1 Course. After this you will be release on the world to cause havoc and mayhem in charge of a IEDD team.

    3) - A few op postings ranging from Falklands, Brunei, Canada, Iraq, Afghanistan, Northern Ireland plus a few that I have forgotten

    4) - There are postings to 3 Cdo Bde down at plymouth, Which as I understand you spend a great time away with the Bde attached to them whenever they go away on tour or exercise. Dont think there are any postings with the airborne. Sure I will be corrected. SF a few AT's are attached to those taped eye people. But will be a few years before you get to a chance at that.

    Hope that as helped. Anything else PM me or ask on here there a plenty of AT's who frequent this board so Im sure all questions can be answered.


    1) What is AT training like?;
    2) What does an AT do before specialising in EOD? (I was told "Looking after bullets");
    3) What are the operational postings for ATs?; and
    4) Is there a high chance (if one is up to the mark) of serving with Special Forces/Commandos or Airborne units?
     
  3. Lots of good advice there, Flyer. One important point supporting recruitment into the world of the AT, is that if you are a high quality type individual, there is much more scope for promotion than for instance an 'infantryman' or even 'driver' within the RLC. Lots of other capbadges transfer in, I don't know of any transfering out!

    Go to the recruitment office and demand to be told about the AT trade or do some googling and see what comes up.
     
  4. As a rough profile, ATs are:

    a. "Strange"
    b. Opinionated (spot how many contribute to ARRSE!).
    c. Never happy.
    d. Hate each other.
    e. Will never answer a straight question with a straight answer.
    f. If given a task to do will spend twice as long coming up with reasons not to do the task than it would take to do the task in the first place.

    But equally are:

    a. Highly intelligent
    b. Highly motivated
    c. A lifelong band of brothers (and sisters now!) &
    d. Have more gongs per head than any other group in the Army! (Which has to count for something!)

    So....

    If you are prepared to have your head punished in more ways than you ever imagined,

    and

    Can keep ahead of da bitchin'

    You will do ok.... :D
     
  5. Well........No..... can't be arrsed 8)
     
  6. I'm pretty much in the same boat, didn't know about the job until i'd completed my barb where it was reccommended for me. completed selection last month and came through the testing with passes for the AT spec.

    have the next stage booked for september, a two day selection with the hope of the all important 'recommended' stamp. slightly concerned that i could go through basic training only to fail the 1 week selection at the end of it and not go to AT phase 2 training.

    job seems a blinder even if i'm a late starter (25 this yr, and indeed 'a sister'!!) the maths and chemistry needs brushing up on obviously so could anyone give me a clue on the level of these two subjects i should be working at? also, i know different jobs have different reputations, am I gonna be in the shit with anybody if i get through and do this? not like its a major concern but it helps to know these things first I'd imagine. Laura. :?
     
  7. Basic maths and chemistry, if you have the right BARB scores you should be fine. Being older will probably help as you will (hopefully) have a more mature outlook on life (ie have aims in life, rather than 'just giving it a go' before anyone starts sniggering at the back!)

    No one is going to be worried about you not being selected. The main thing is that you select the trade in the RLC that you really want to do, and hence have a long and productive career. As I said above, more transfer in, not many transfer out. When you get to basic training, look for anyone with a ATO or AT badge and ask their opinion. They may be able to sort a visit or something. 11 Regt used to do school visits many moons ago, I'm not sure if they still do but if you have access to CCF or similar ask the guy in charge.

    TK, once you have completed your 1 year training and come out as a LCpl, you may go to a depot to apply what you have learnt, ie repackaging or refuzing of mortar rounds, APB cricket etc, but many LCpl also go straight to 11 Regt and complete blue light courses (to drive the EOD van safely (Hoho!) under emergency conditions), the JS course to qualify as a No2, etc, etc.

    What do you have to lose by giving it a go?
     
  8. I have no AT training, and generally will gently take the piss out of the trade for its 'superior' attitude. However, I will also be the first to recommend it to a bright potential soldier. Your BARB score is high - very high, so you are no fool. The AT trade is genuinely demanding and rewarding. Promotion, if you are up to standard is rapid and you will get responsibilities beyond your rank and age. Go for it, but prepared for a degree of jealousy from those not so capable.
     
  9. Ammo Tech was my initial choice when I went into the recruiting office 22 years ago, was fobbed off for being colour blind. Became an armourer instead.
     
  10. Cann't beat the trade plenty of people out there to @iss off especailly cassette heads or what ever theyre called these days.
    Or u could make a proper career out of it.........................!!
    best laugh I had for 15 yrs then had to get a proper job....

    have fun and do it- best trade in the Army (promotion good and so is the dosh relatively....well was 10 years or so back.................) :)
     

  11. look forward to a life of phone and pager.
    and dont get married.
    again marry the phone and pager.
     
  12. I was an AT for 12 years and it was really all rather good. That was 1974 to 1986, and am still a member of a small specialised group of people who have been ATs and atos andtalk to each other across the years. Also an honorary Feuerwerker with the Bundeswehr and honorary Masterblaster with US EOD. Friends bloody everywhere.

    Should you do it? If you don't you will never 'know', will you? Take the risk! Go for it. It will ruin your lovelife, wreck your father's nerves, break your mother's heart, and develop PTSD to eat your brain away - but only after you retire, so that don't count yet; but you will never get bored and will have joined a more exclusive family than all the Cdo/Para/SAS mob have, even though they will deny it! 'Special Forces'? Pah!

    Taster of Depot Life?

    Regular hours allowing Corps level sports, shooting clubs, discos, after-school clubs, education courses, detachments to other units, and everything else while learning the basic skills you will DEFINITELY need later on - believe that! As a CPL I was advising Inf COs on storage and use of ammo etc and they listened and did . . . you need that time to learn the basics. Apprenticeship time.

    Taster of EOD/IEDD?

    UK / BAOR (in my day) / Belize / Berlin / even (cough) Wales - all areas traveled across. Driving course with GM Police. Motorcycle course, abseiling and climbing etc with 22SAS. Helicopter flying with AAC. Lecturer to police courses. Explosive demos to police (and once to Ghurkas in Belizean jungle! More 'Bnags' than you can shake a stick at - honestly can't remember how many. Many improvements to the valleys of Wales!

    NI - was No 2 to an AT who got it wrong and wound up in 384 bits scattered across the border. Transported across the provice and disposed of 1.5 tons of ANFO and Co-op. Blew up loads a stuff and got stuck into getting the beggars put away for life (2 years of easy time n NI, but still good). TOPCAT in Belfast. Excellent place!

    War? Landed ashore in bomb alley with 3CDO BDE Air Sqn before the Cdo AT even got off his comfy bunk on his big boat, and left two weeks after him! Worked solo on tasks through most the war and ended in Stanley pinning instant-fuzed grenades frozen in piles of human sh1t hidden under houses and then dropping off to sleep. Set up Stanley Ammo Dump initially - Depot Work on the fly - see?

    Believe me, if you get through selection and training, and survive your first IEDD, you will never be alone again unless you want to be. You will have joined an elite and will never be the same again.

    Enough bull and sandbags. Good luck, enjoy yourself, do a good job, and end with all your bits in place! DO NOT WIN ANY MEDALS - that's for the foolish ones!!!!
     
  13. and are all back stabbin cnuts. just like me
     
  14. Back-stabbing courses still being run, then! Great. Makes me feel better that some other poor bastard is getting it in the cervical for a change.

    Mental health? We used to collect spoken long words in a milk bottle as well, I recall. Don't know why. Not recyclable anyway. Probably still there in District 5 at Bramley . . .

    Doing it? You don't know until you try - so go and try. If you get blown up, fcuk it. Otherwise, getting out with all fingers and toes intact is nice.

    Opinionated? Bollix. What a load of c-rap. Generally fcukin stupid and wrong-headed, yes. Mule-stubborn and dog-foolish. Yes. Opinionated? Moi???? Ha! lol

    Come join us and see.
     
  15. AT's tend to be considerably more handsome than any other trade in the RLC (well the whole armed forces actually) and therefore they attract more beautiful girls who wish to perform all sorts of favours for them.

    If you do manage to become and AT, be prepared to have husbands wary of you, as by your very nature, their wives will wish to be with you...

    AT's are a sort of real-life Austin Powers...