Americas Greatest Son: Prof. Stephen Hawking

#1
Apparently there is a huge row brewing in the States over Obama's plans to introduce elements of a socialised medical care system. The Republicans are citing the NHS as a devisive, grossly flawed and unfair system that denies people treatment. One of the adverts says that if Prof Stephen Hawking was British he would be dead because he would not be treated by the NHS.
I know, I know, clearly they don't though!



Sorry, no link, I was driving along the M62 today and heard it on Radio 2 Jeremy whatisname.
 
#2
The healcare system in the US a multi-billion dollar industry, this is why the republicans are against it.

simples
 
#5
Markintime said:
Thanks Dogberry, much appreciated.
Don't mention it.

I once had the fortune to be working in the same place as Prof. Hawking for a bit. You knew if he was planning to come for lunch as a temporary ramp would be set up in the canteen for him to scoot up. Astonishing bloke.
 
#8
Command_doh said:
One of the adverts says that if Prof Stephen Hawking was British he would be dead because he would not be treated by the NHS.
Am I missing something here? He is British.
There is the irony.

A Republican prat wrote an article assuming Prof Hawking was a septic.

It's U571 all over again.


Edited Twice for crap spelling, Jaysuss :roll:
 
#9
Command_doh said:
One of the adverts says that if Prof Stephen Hawking was British he would be dead because he would not be treated by the NHS.
Am I missing something here? He is British.
Ah, but you have to remember, Command_doh, that his computer thingy squeaks Septic English and not Brit English. So the Septics, a very large majority of whom are mentally incapable of imagining that there actually are other nations in the world, automatically think he's a Septic. He's not, of course, he's a Brit. Born in Oxford, even. See here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Hawking

Still, he's probably a little bit sad that he wasn't born in Ireland, but very glad not to have been born a Septic. Swings and roundabouts, I suppose.

MsG
 
#11
Bugsy said:
Command_doh said:
One of the adverts says that if Prof Stephen Hawking was British he would be dead because he would not be treated by the NHS.
Am I missing something here? He is British.
Ah, but you have to remember, Command_doh, that his computer thingy squeaks Septic English and not Brit English. So the Septics, a very large majority of whom are mentally incapable of imagining that there actually are other nations in the world, automatically think he's a Septic. He's not, of course, he's a Brit. Born in Oxford, even. See here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Hawking

Still, he's probably a little bit sad that he wasn't born in Ireland, but very glad not to have been born a Septic. Swings and roundabouts, I suppose.

MsG
If he wants to be Oirish, he can just click his mouth wand here.
 
#12
Markintime said:
Apparently there is a huge row brewing in the States over Obama's plans to introduce elements of a socialised medical care system. The Republicans are citing the NHS as a devisive, grossly flawed and unfair system that denies people treatment. One of the adverts says that if Prof Stephen Hawking was British he would be dead because he would not be treated by the NHS.
I know, I know, clearly they don't though!



Sorry, no link, I was driving along the M62 today and heard it on Radio 2 Jeremy whatisname.

Well,

They should have taken care of their own:

After a long and difficult fight with myelodysplasia, which included three bone marrow transplants, Sagan died of pneumonia at the age of 62 at the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center in Seattle, Washington on December 20, 1996. Surviving him were his wife and five children. After landing, the unmanned Mars Pathfinder spacecraft was renamed the Carl Sagan Memorial Station on July 5, 1997. Asteroid 2709 Sagan is also named in his honor. He was buried at Lakeview Cemetery in Ithaca, New York.
 
#13
It's absolutely golden.

BUT more importantly, the republican magazine not only said Hawking was not English, but that he would've died on the NHS system. Which is quite obviously true as he is on the NHS system.

The republicans have held up horror stories of people dying on the NHS waiting lists. I'm sure everyone agrees that whilst the NHS is thousand times less better than France's or Norways health system - it's still a thousand times better than the US's disgusting barbaric atttitude toward health care.

Here is a good article on it

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article6793173.ece

and here is a good video on how the USA's health care system went from bad to worse. They spend 16% of their GDP on healthcare compared to our 8% and we do a better job. The republicans have also been spinning how the NHS "rations" it's money. But every country does that...otherwise healthcare would take up 100% GDP with no money for education, military, research etc.

http://www.newscientist.com/video?bcpid=25196461001&bclid=1904732932&bctid=30583310001

Possibly the most embarrassing thing about it though is that some Americans seem to be defending their healthcare system. It beggars belief how a country can be a super power since 1946 and have a healthcare system ranked 36 by the WHO (world health organisation) and for it's people to defend it. How the ferk do you deal with that sort of mindless tribal attitude??!
 
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skintboymike said:
If he wants to be Oirish, he can just click his mouth wand here (link is to Skintboymike's male relatives having fun in the shower, again).
I do wonder why you insist on defending the Septic health system in the face of information like this from Olympius (and no, I didn’t click on your childish little link, I’ve also disabled it):
Olympius said:
It's absolutely golden.

BUT more importantly, the republican magazine not only said Hawking was not English, but that he would've died on the NHS system. Which is quite obviously true as he is on the NHS system.

The republicans have held up horror stories of people dying on the NHS waiting lists. I'm sure everyone agrees that whilst the NHS is thousand times less better than France's or Norways health system - it's still a thousand times better than the US's disgusting barbaric atttitude toward health care.

Here is a good article on it

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article6793173.ece

and here is a good video on how the USA's health care system went from bad to worse. They spend 16% of their GDP on healthcare compared to our 8% and we do a better job. The republicans have also been spinning how the NHS "rations" it's money. But every country does that...otherwise healthcare would take up 100% GDP with no money for education, military, research etc.

http://www.newscientist.com/video?bcpid=25196461001&bclid=1904732932&bctid=30583310001

Possibly the most embarrassing thing about it though is that some Americans seem to be defending their healthcare system. It beggars belief how a country can be a super power since 1946 and have a healthcare system ranked 36 by the WHO (world health organisation) and for it's people to defend it. How the ferk do you deal with that sort of mindless tribal attitude??!
It seems to be wishful thinking on your part, Skintboymike. Or maybe it’s because you lack the intellect to examine the complexities closely.

MsG
 
#15
Bugsy said:
Command_doh said:
One of the adverts says that if Prof Stephen Hawking was British he would be dead because he would not be treated by the NHS.
Am I missing something here? He is British.
Ah, but you have to remember, Command_doh, that his computer thingy squeaks Septic English and not Brit English. So the Septics, a very large majority of whom are mentally incapable of imagining that there actually are other nations in the world, automatically think he's a Septic. He's not, of course, he's a Brit. Born in Oxford, even. See here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Hawking

Still, he's probably a little bit sad that he wasn't born in Ireland, but very glad not to have been born a Septic. Swings and roundabouts, I suppose.

MsG
Given the shocking amount of people from England claiming dubious links to the emerald isle, I don't think Prof. Hawkins would have any trouble convincing himself he's a born and bred oirish lad if he so wanted to.
 
#16
Bugsy said:
skintboymike said:
If he wants to be Oirish, he can just click his mouth wand here (link is to Skintboymike's male relatives having fun in the shower, again).
I do wonder why you insist on defending the Septic health system in the face of information like this from Olympus (and no, I didn’t click on your childish little link, I’ve also disabled it):
Olympius said:
It's absolutely golden.

BUT more importantly, the republican magazine not only said Hawking was not English, but that he would've died on the NHS system. Which is quite obviously true as he is on the NHS system.

The republicans have held up horror stories of people dying on the NHS waiting lists. I'm sure everyone agrees that whilst the NHS is thousand times less better than France's or Norways health system - it's still a thousand times better than the US's disgusting barbaric atttitude toward health care.

Here is a good article on it

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article6793173.ece

and here is a good video on how the USA's health care system went from bad to worse. They spend 16% of their GDP on healthcare compared to our 8% and we do a better job. The republicans have also been spinning how the NHS "rations" it's money. But every country does that...otherwise healthcare would take up 100% GDP with no money for education, military, research etc.

http://www.newscientist.com/video?bcpid=25196461001&bclid=1904732932&bctid=30583310001

Possibly the most embarrassing thing about it though is that some Americans seem to be defending their healthcare system. It beggars belief how a country can be a super power since 1946 and have a healthcare system ranked 36 by the WHO (world health organisation) and for it's people to defend it. How the ferk do you deal with that sort of mindless tribal attitude??!
It seems to be wishful thinking on your part, Skintboymike. Or maybe it’s because you lack the intellect to examine the complexities closely.

MsG
FWIW, the link is actually to Tom Tom's Voice Library. You've 'disabled' it, have you? Goody for you.

Also, I don't 'insist' upon defending the Yanks healthcare system, I made a single comment about it. ONCE. My post was actually in jest, the subject matter being that Mr Hawkings voice can be interchangeable in order to suit his needs. You've obviously forgotten the greatest language there is - humour. Get over yourself, you boring shit.
 
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skintboymike said:
FWIW, the link is actually to Tom Tom's Voice Library. You've 'disabled' it, have you? Goody for you.

Also, I don't 'insist' upon defending the Yanks healthcare system, I made a single comment about it. ONCE. My post was actually in jest, the subject matter being that Mr Hawkings voice can be interchangeable in order to suit his needs. You've obviously forgotten the greatest language there is - humour. Get over yourself, you boring shit.
Ooh! Hit a nerve, did I? Mi dispiace, ragazzo! Mio sbaglio. So this was in “jest”, was it?
skintboymike said:
I'd have a yank squawk box too if it meant getting hold of their healthcare and associated benefits.
You could have fooled me. Anyway, I’m well aware of what humour is and means. But what you class as *cough* “humour” is normally referred to as “tiresome stupidity”. Which figures, I suppose.

MsG
 
#18
The anti-"Socialized Healthcare" campaign is absolutely extraordinary.

The reporting about it on Fox News is equally jaw-dropping. One pundit called Glenn Beck was comparing Obama's health care reforms to the Nazi's eugenics program the other day. They even brought over Daniel Hannan yesterday to give the NHS a bad-mouthing. Apparently the NHS kills off patients that are too expensive to treat. I think he came out with the figure of $45,000 as the most that will be spent on a woman with breast cancer in Britain!?

Americans are already being royally shafted by the healthcare industry but most seem to prefer it that way. They would rather be robbed ten times over by the free market than have universal health care.
 
#19
skintboymike said:
I'd have a yank squawk box too if it meant getting hold of their healthcare and associated benefits.
Have you had any experience with US healthcare? The quality of service really isn't that much different to the NHS. They still have problems with superbugs, long waiting lists for non-essential surgery, having to travel 50+ miles to see a specialist, staffing problems and all the other things people complain about with the NHS.

The big difference is you have to pay through the nose for it. A couple of examples for you,

- the birth of my premature son cost over $150,000, a large part of which the insurance company decided they weren't going to pay.
- The insurance co-payment on having one tooth crowned $1800.
- A two hour trip to the ER for stomach flu (only because GPs don't work weekends), insurance co-payment of $250.
- I was picking up a prescription the other day from the Pharmacist. A middle-aged lady in front of me was picking up her weekly prescription, it cost her over $150. She mentioned to me that she has to ration her one weeks supply of pills over two weeks because that's all she can afford.

In five years living in the US I have paid more in medical bills than my lifetime national insurance contributions in the UK, and in that time I personally haven't seen a GP once!

The only advantage of the US system is the nice new hospitals because they build a new one every five years or so as a way of spending all the money they are making.
 
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#20
Command_doh said:
One of the adverts says that if Prof Stephen Hawking was British he would be dead because he would not be treated by the NHS.
Am I missing something here? He is British.
His accent is clearly American "speak and spell" though.
 

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