American Psychiatrist Kills 13

#2
I take it you've a problem understanding what the thread " 12 shot dead at US army base " is about ? :roll:
 
#3
Bollock-chops said:
Ignoring for a second the fact that the subject's already being covered elsewhere...

Why should people be exempt from certain tours? Surely if they feel strongly enough about a subject that they're willing to kill their friends and colleagues for it, then not sending them on a tour to Afghanistan isn't going to change their fundamental thinking? Surely in that case, they shouldn't even be in the army in the first place, and therefore not have to worry about the moral dilemma that they've set for themselves.

Oh, and comparing suicide bombers to someone throwing himself on a grenade? C0ck. (The shooter, not you)
 
#6
Sadly the liberal networks over here are clucking sympathetically about the murdering son of a bitch. Interviewing his relatives etc.
 
#7
My sympathy to our American friends over the casualties taken at Fort Hood.

My congratulations to the young woman who dropped the gunman.

My earnest hope that an officer and doctor who broke both his oaths will pay in full for the harm that he has done.

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Spanny said:
I take it you've a problem understanding what the thread " 12 shot dead at US army base " is about ? :roll:
That thread is now locked so this is it if one wants to opine.
 
#9
If he didn't want to go, despite that being what he is paid to do, he could have just gone AWOL.

Shooting 50 odd people (killing 13) is not really the sign of a pacifist or conchy.

Hopefully the death chamber awaits, maybe a twofers deal with Sgt hasan ackbar.
 

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I see now that the Scientologists are right when they say that Psychiatry is a dodgy and dangerous discipline.

Mind you, in everything else they are utterly barking, but in this case I can almost see their point.
 
#11
Glad this thread started. The old one got locked due to one pster with over the top posts inspired by anger and perhaps alcohol and others slagging him while a few of us were trying to share information.

There has been a lot of talk about the female officer who put 4 rounds into Major Hasan despite being wounded. Today I spotted an article that names her and also discusses another quite young woman who was helping others despite having been shot.

FORT HOOD, Texas - The top commander at Fort Hood is crediting a civilian police officer for stopping the shooting rampage that killed 13 people at the Texas post. Lt. Gen. Bob Cone also hailed a young Army nutritionist who helped the wounded.

Cone said Friday that Fort Hood police Sgt. Kimberly Munley and her partner responded within three minutes of reported gunfire Thursday afternoon. Cone said Munley shot the gunman four times despite being shot herself.

Officials said Munley was in stable condition.


Cone said, "It was an amazing and an aggressive performance by this police officer."

Cone also hailed Amber Bahr, 19, as an "amazing young lady."

The commander told NBC's TODAY show that the nutritionist put a tourniquet on a wounded soldier and carried him out to medical care. And only after she had taken care of others did she realize she had been shot, he said.

On Thursday, her mother, Lisa Pfund, told the Sheboygan Press that she spoke briefly to Bahr after she was taken to a community hospital.

"I actually got to talk to Amber and I talked to her for about 30 seconds and she was in a lot of pain," Pfund said. "She couldn't tell me nothing, either."

The suspected gunman, Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, is hospitalized on a ventilator.
Amber Bahr is a soldier, unclear as to what rank but she is 19, joined at 17.

A big Bravo Zulu to Sgt Munley. But for her the death toll could have been worse.
 
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Pics of Sgt Munley and Amber Bahr
 

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According to the Indy:

"The 39-year-old Army major worked at the Walter Reed Army Medical Center pursuing his career in psychiatry, as an intern, a resident and, last year, a fellow in disaster and preventive psychiatry."

How ironic.
 
#15
We're lucky that islam is the religion of peace, I hate to think what might of happened otherwise.

Well done to Munley & Bahr, out of adversity comes bravery.
 
#16
OldSnowy said:
I see now that the Scientologists are right when they say that Psychiatry is a dodgy and dangerous discipline.

Mind you, in everything else they are utterly barking, but in this case I can almost see their point.
They are probably right on the money. See link below to the Rosenhan or 'Thud' experiment.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosenhan_experiment

Markintime said:
Did anyone ask him how that made him feel?
'I don't like mondays'
(okay it was a thursday, but no need to split hairs now!)
 
#18
As more information comes out, it seems this was definitely a religious/politically motivated attack. I'm also happy he survived the attack, and wasn't allowed the easy way out.
 
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arko said:
As more information comes out, it seems this was definitely a religious/politically motivated attack. I'm also happy he survived the attack, and wasn't allowed the easy way out.

I will try to keep this as dispassionate and rational as possible, considering the inflammatory circumstances.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...-Malik-Hasan-said-Muslims-should-rise-up.html


2,300 years ago, a Chinese philosopher called Sun Tzu advised, "If you know yourself, but not your enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat."

Have we forgotten the lessons of the past so quickly? "Know thine Enemy" This is the central core that is missing in all of these Eastern campaigns.

What are we fighting?
Who are we fighting?
And for what goal?


The trouble is that we cannot mention the truth, for the truth is called by many names nowadays, and few of them are complimentary. But the name-calling has its desired effect, and discussion of truth is muted or abandoned. So the politicians and military are still fighting these wars with one arm tied behind their back, lashing out blindly in the darkness - because they don't know who or what their enemy really is.

There are none so blind as those who WILL not see.

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