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America - its all a bit odd...

It looks more fun, good luck hauling anything in it, maybe you could strap your dead animal(s) to the roof?

That said, the mule thingie looks a damn sight more practical than the quad bikes many gamekeepers/farmers use over here.

Agreed the 4 seater is a tad more practical for being out and about, the 2 seater is more fun though.
 
I'll take either! Just the small matter of the lottery win...

I’ve looked; 2nd hand they are not too bad. The thing is with the usage it would get I could not justify it to myself, never mind SWMBO. It would be a different matter if they were road legal.
 

Ritch

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I think I'm slowly turning into an American redneck like my mate who lives out there. He's just purchased this and all I can say is, "I want."

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Oh along with his '67 Mustang
 
I think I'm slowly turning into an American redneck like my mate who lives out there. He's just purchased this and all I can say is, "I want."

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Oh along with his '67 Mustang
The sad thing is most who own trucks like that this side of the pond live in cities where they’re not practical, they’ve become more of a status symbol than anything else.
 
Why are FORMER officials in the US of A referred to by their FORMER position?

Is it an inferiority complex? Are they trying to make up for not having a Monarch and associated social structure? Is it also why 5 out of every 6 people in their army is a Sergeant?

Out of respect for their achievement, but it is only appropriate for those positions where there is more than one at a time, eg Senator, Judge, Dr. An ex-Senator remains "Senator James" after leaving office, in a similar manner to members of the Privy Council, who keep their "Rt Hon" title and membership of the council, even when they cease to be invited to meetings (typically on change of government).

One that is misused, however, is "Mr President" or "Mr Speaker". Those positions where there is only one at a time, ex-holders cease to be entitled to that title, and some hold that it is disrespectful to use that title, as it disrespects the current holder of that office. I'm guilty of this myself. I once met President Carter on a plane, and said "Good afternoon, Mr President", not knowing any better. It's Ok to refer to "President Carter" in the third person, but not when talking to him to say "Mr President", as there's only one of those, and currently it's not him.

As for Sgts, it doesn't carry the gravitas in the US Army that it does in the British Army. A Sgt in the US Army is more like a Cpl in the British Army. Bit like the Guards, LSgts aren't quite there yet. Also bearing in mind that the US Army misses out a rank in comparison, there are no LCpls. But a couple more SNCO ranks. And no WOs in the enlisted ranks.
 
I’ve looked; 2nd hand they are not too bad. The thing is with the usage it would get I could not justify it to myself, never mind SWMBO. It would be a different matter if they were road legal.
They’re great if you have a purpose and land to use them, I’ve had both a Bobcat and Kubota that paid for themselves by doing custom snow ploughing.
 
They’re great if you have a purpose and land to use them, I’ve had both a Bobcat and Kubota that paid for themselves by doing custom snow ploughing.

My turn. I want :)

That looks like a 3450, I can't find one down here. I can find the bigger ones, like the 5600, but they're silly money. A diesel 3450 with the front hydraulic would be fine, but like rocking horse shit down here.
 

Ritch

LE
The sad thing is most who own trucks like that this side of the pond live in cities where they’re not practical, they’ve become more of a status symbol than anything else.

To be fair to him, he lives in the countryside outside of Monroe, Washington and does four-wheeling up in the mountains. He creates trails for off-road buggies and will be taking it up there but yes, I get what you're saying
 

Ritch

LE
I got :)

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No lift kit or wide wheels (thank God) or Mustang though.

I do like Ford's US pick up trucks and it's the inner redneck in me, the higher the lift, the better.

Last year when I was in the US, I saw a Volkswagen Beetle with a lifted kit and gigantic tyres. Now that's an idiot who has something like that.
 
My turn. I want :)

That looks like a 3450, I can't find one down here. I can find the bigger ones, like the 5600, but they're silly money. A diesel 3450 with the front hydraulic would be fine, but like rocking horse shit down here.
It’s a 2100 with a Kubota diesel, hydraulic dump, and quick attach plate on the front hydraulic lift. They were made by Club Car for Bobcat, not exactly the quickest but could take a pretty harsh beating.
 
Also bearing in mind that the US Army misses out a rank in comparison, there are no LCpls.
I always thought that was what 'Specialist' was? Or is that a Cpl equivalent in a non-infantry unit?
 
I think I'm slowly turning into an American redneck like my mate who lives out there. He's just purchased this and all I can say is, "I want."

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Oh along with his '67 Mustang

The '67 Mustang I would take, the pick up, meh, not so much.

I had a pick up for a couple of years for the legitimate use of schlepping stuff around. TBH for day to day stuff they are, IMHO, shite, the ones like that one pictured are generally badly lifted with inadequete suspension (keeping the old stuff to keep the conversion cost down). Texas where I live is the land of pick ups, so much so that Toy-Oh-Da (American pronunciation of Toyota) even built a factory producing pick ups here. I see these abortions all day every day on the roads and they are firkin lethal, drivers not paying attention, vehicles sized beyond the ability of the driver, vehicles badly converted when they are lifted, or with stupid silly wheel sizes that minimise driver control.

They are a status symbol for many, genuinely needed by a few, and they guzzle fuel (10 - 15 mpg) like no ones business especially with larger tyres and lift kits fitted. I have a mate who has a slightly modded dual wheel pick-up that he uses for schlepping those little Kubota mini digger things on a trailer, he reckons on less than 8mpg.

Dual wheel pick up:


I am starting back at industrial level construction stuff again next year and I will be buying myself a Transit van, you can keep your pick ups.
 

Ritch

LE
The '67 Mustang I would take, the pick up, meh, not so much.

I had a pick up for a couple of years for the legitimate use of schlepping stuff around. TBH for day to day stuff they are, IMHO, shite, the ones like that one pictured are generally badly lifted with inadequete suspension (keeping the old stuff to keep the conversion cost down). Texas where I live is the land of pick ups, so much so that Toy-Oh-Da (American pronunciation of Toyota) even built a factory producing pick ups here. I see these abortions all day every day on the roads and they are firkin lethal, drivers not paying attention, vehicles sized beyond the ability of the driver, vehicles badly converted when they are lifted, or with stupid silly wheel sizes that minimise driver control.

They are a status symbol for many, genuinely needed by a few, and they guzzle fuel (10 - 15 mpg) like no ones business especially with larger tyres and lift kits fitted. I have a mate who has a slightly modded dual wheel pick-up that he uses for schlepping those little Kubota mini digger things on a trailer, he reckons on less than 8mpg.

Dual wheel pick up:


I am starting back at industrial level construction stuff again next year and I will be buying myself a Transit van, you can keep your pick ups.

My buddy is a truck mechanic and he actually lifted and tuned the truck he's just bought. He did it for a mate of his who needs to sell and so he bought it for $19000 when all told, it cost the other guy over $55000 to buy it and trick it out.

He won't commute in it, he has a Dodge Ram for that and the only thing it'll be used for is either hauling his two off-road buggies (monsters in themselves) or taking it up and rock crawling with it.
 
The '67 Mustang I would take, the pick up, meh, not so much.

I had a pick up for a couple of years for the legitimate use of schlepping stuff around. TBH for day to day stuff they are, IMHO, shite, the ones like that one pictured are generally badly lifted with inadequete suspension (keeping the old stuff to keep the conversion cost down). Texas where I live is the land of pick ups, so much so that Toy-Oh-Da (American pronunciation of Toyota) even built a factory producing pick ups here. I see these abortions all day every day on the roads and they are firkin lethal, drivers not paying attention, vehicles sized beyond the ability of the driver, vehicles badly converted when they are lifted, or with stupid silly wheel sizes that minimise driver control.

They are a status symbol for many, genuinely needed by a few, and they guzzle fuel (10 - 15 mpg) like no ones business especially with larger tyres and lift kits fitted. I have a mate who has a slightly modded dual wheel pick-up that he uses for schlepping those little Kubota mini digger things on a trailer, he reckons on less than 8mpg.

Dual wheel pick up:


I am starting back at industrial level construction stuff again next year and I will be buying myself a Transit van, you can keep your pick ups.

Horses for courses mate. Living out in the sticks, we have no trash service. I've just taken a load of stinky smelly garbage to the dump in the truck. Picked up 10 gallons of diesel in cans on the way back for the excavator, which I use the truck to tow. I wouldn't want to do either of those without a pickup bed.

For mileage, it's not bad at all. I get 15.9 tootling about, and 20 on a run. Went down to ATL a month ago towing a covered motorcycle trailer and loaded up #1 daughter's stuff and brought it home. I was amazed that the truck did 15mpg towing the trailer. Haven't done too much towing with this truck, but the RAMs I used to have would be lucky to do half the normal mpg with a heavy trailer on.

As long as I live here, I will always have a truck, they're so damned useful.
 

UKRaider

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I’ve looked; 2nd hand they are not too bad. The thing is with the usage it would get I could not justify it to myself, never mind SWMBO. It would be a different matter if they were road legal.
If they go ahead and legalise feckin electric scooters on the roads in the UK then they can legalise these FFS!
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I’ve looked; 2nd hand they are not too bad. The thing is with the usage it would get I could not justify it to myself, never mind SWMBO. It would be a different matter if they were road legal.


Arizona plates them...
 

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