America - its all a bit odd...

Better coverage?

The Met covers an area of 609 square miles. Pretty much all of which is city.
The County of Los Angeles is 4,751 square miles, much of which looks like this, which is about 15 miles from downtown LA.
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A Ford Explorer is not going to get there quickly. The Met also is not tasked with things like search and rescue of lost hikers or injured off-roaders (Or if it is, I don't see it as particularly common).

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I don't think the air requirements for the two police forces are entirely comparable.

In fairness, LASD and LAPD both have about 20 helos each, and LAPD's area is only 510square miles, though with a lesser density than the Met's area and still a few more mountains. View attachment 480493
Do the two departments overlap in what they do? IE, is there a definite border/boundary where one jurisdiction ends and the other begins or are they ever likley to deal with the same incidents?
 
Blue States seem less and less appealing the older I get. I don’t know how you have managed to stick it out for so long in Cali.
Beach/weather/mountains/hot chicks/loads of great music venues/family.
 
Do the two departments overlap in what they do? IE, is there a definite border/boundary where one jurisdiction ends and the other begins or are they ever likley to deal with the same incidents?
Local city depts have been sending officers to LAPD and LASD areas in the last few weeks. LAPD is responsible for L.A, LASD is responsible for the unincorporated areas that have no police coverage. LASD also staff the county jail.
 
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In light of all the racial shenannagins in the US, I've been doing a bit of digging around the net for myself to try and see what is what, avoiding Wikki as it is notoriously unreliable.

So, first up, 20 per cent of Black Americans live below the poverty line, and they make up 30 percent of that group.

Therefore, most black people are not poor, and most poor people are not black - which, I think, differs more than somewhat from how the situation is usually portrayed by hand wringers.

But I have to say they do seem to be taking it up the arrse dry when it comes to the justice system.

African Americans are much more likely to be arrested than whites, once they are arrested they are much more likely to be convicted, and once convicted they are six times more likely to be incarcerated.

In confrontations with the police, they are 2.5 times more likely to be shot than other racial groups.

The vast majority of people shot by police were armed in one way or another, but of those who turn out to be unarmed, 40 per cent of them were black.

It may be that I have statistically disappeared up my own backside with this, but from what I can make of it it does all seem a bit harsh.

The Hispanics appear to jog on roughly in line with their population numbers, but the ones who are clutching tightly with both hands onto the sh1tty end of every stick going are the Native Americans but there isn't a Red Lives Matter protest going on so they're a different story.

Hey Ho
Blacks commit approximately half the murders in the US. However, they only represent 13% of the population. They are 4x as murderous as the rest of the population.

I researched this a few years ago, because the math wasn’t stacking up for me either. The post below contains links to government info sources.


None of which justifies the behavior of the Police in the case of George Floyd or the subsequent rioting. It does however put some context around it. Clearly one could spin it that the black population are more likely to be murderous because of the poverty they live in, but your stats somewhat give the lie to that.

I don’t know what the answer is, but I do know racial violence is not the answer either.
 
Blacks commit approximately half the murders in the US. However, they only represent 13% of the population. They are 4x as murderous as the rest of the population.

I researched this a few years ago, because the math wasn’t stacking up for me either. The post below contains links to government info sources.


None of which justifies the behavior of the Police in the case of George Floyd or the subsequent rioting. It does however put some context around it. Clearly one could spin it that the black population are more likely to be murderous because of the poverty they live in, but your stats somewhat give the lie to that.

I don’t know what the answer is, but I do know racial violence is not the answer either.
And lets be honest - its not the females doing most of the killing and violence.
 

Trashman

War Hero
by the way thanks for making the whole thing about race, says much about you
Have you seen the news of late? A large part of the problems seems to stem from a corrupt Government (and some police forces) being highly selective as to how the law is enforced.
 
We have all the above, depending on how loosely you accept the definition of beach. Plus winter and a lower cost of living.
By weather, I mean i get to wear shorts all year round.
 

endure

GCM
Which must get old. But a little frost bite only makes you a better person!
Depends where the frost bites if you're wearing shorts :eek:
 
But why do they need their own police? (Honest question). Surely you could make a case for state or the FBI?
I can understand the argument there. Better a police force drawn from a similar background with a bigger focus on calming and negotiating with agitated people more likely to a) have mental health issues and b) visit that place when they are pissed off at not being helped. Maybe it helps to view them as a different branch of the military police?

I don't get the need for individual malls, universities etc. to have their own police forces.
 

endure

GCM
Your plumbing magically learns to retract safely near your heart and lungs on the coldest of days.

That depends on the size of your tackle ;-)
 
But why do they need their own police? (Honest question). Surely you could make a case for state or the FBI?
You really want to waste FBI Special Agents to have them work entrances and parking lots to VA Hospitals? and the states cannot do it as it is a federal facility
 
Here is an interesting usaf article on their RC-26 ANG units flying recon missions over the Capitol and Vegas.



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Went to visit LASD Aero Bureau Back in January after Heli Expoin Anaheim. Very professional outfit ...with Airbus Helicopters AS350B3/H125 Astars, have 3 x AS332L1 Super Pumas for their Air 5 SAR Program. They bought second hand via Heli-Epapde their ex Navy Uh-3H Sea Kings (which also replace their legacy Sikorsky S-58T ). I saw their first Super Puma seven years ago (my photos from Heli Expo 2013 Vegas). Air 5 personnel are not only paramedics, swift water rescue specialists, divers but are SWAT trained.

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In lieu of 9/11 since 2003, LAPD ASTRO (Air Support To Regular Officers) has a Homeland Security Division where their SWAT sit on Tyler Special Ops mounts on the skids of their Astars (AS350/H125) around the skyline. My photo of their airborne piece of firepower from HelI Expo 2012 in Dallas. think Blue Thunder movie and tv series.

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Their fleet is now Airbus Helicopters AS350B2 and newer H125 (My photos of their H125 from Heli Expo 2020 back in January)

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And they have a couple of legacy Bell 206B Jet Ranger III for training So my photo from Heli Expo 2009 in Anaheim.

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cheers
 

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