America - its all a bit odd...

LAPD and LA Sheriff have 38 helicopters between them. Then there are units operated by other city, state and federal agencies in greater LA. The UK's National Police Helicopter Service has 19 to cover the entire country. Britain.

The Met is a very thin blue line and LA, by US big-city standards, has always been under-policed.
why do they need enough helicopters to mount an assault on a small country
 
 
 
In latest news, Minneapolis is reported to be disbanding their police force, and Police, pastors and members of the public have knelt to wash the feet of black community leaders at a rally in Cary, North Carolina and beg forgiveness.

You'll need to scroll down a bit to find the relevant bits

Police wash feet of protest leaders
 
I'd always wondered whether this whole contrived story was just a wind-up/urban myth, and the 'evidence' of the mystery solved offers no solid confirmation due to the anonymity of the finder.

'A bronze chest filled with gold, jewels and other valuables worth more than $A1.4 million and hidden a decade ago somewhere in the Rocky Mountain wilderness has been found, according to a famed art and antiquities collector who created the treasure hunt.

'Forrest Fenn, 89, told the Santa Fe New Mexican on Sunday that a man who did not want his name released – but was from “back east” – located the chest a few days ago and the discovery was confirmed by a photograph the man sent him.'


 
Doubtless armed vigilanteism will end well for the polite society.

'Authorities say a man drove a car at George Floyd protesters in Seattle Sunday night, hit a barricade, then got out of the vehicle brandishing a pistol. At least one person was wounded.

'A 27-year-old male was shot then taken to a hospital in stable condition, the Seattle Fire Department said. The alleged gunman was arrested, reports CBS Seattle affiliate KIRO-TV. Police said they recovered the gun and don't believe there were any other victims, the station added.'


 
 
In light of all the racial shenannagins in the US, I've been doing a bit of digging around the net for myself to try and see what is what, avoiding Wikki as it is notoriously unreliable.

So, first up, 20 per cent of Black Americans live below the poverty line, and they make up 30 percent of that group.

Therefore, most black people are not poor, and most poor people are not black - which, I think, differs more than somewhat from how the situation is usually portrayed by hand wringers.

But I have to say they do seem to be taking it up the arrse dry when it comes to the justice system.

African Americans are much more likely to be arrested than whites, once they are arrested they are much more likely to be convicted, and once convicted they are six times more likely to be incarcerated.

In confrontations with the police, they are 2.5 times more likely to be shot than other racial groups.

The vast majority of people shot by police were armed in one way or another, but of those who turn out to be unarmed, 40 per cent of them were black.

It may be that I have statistically disappeared up my own backside with this, but from what I can make of it it does all seem a bit harsh.

The Hispanics appear to jog on roughly in line with their population numbers, but the ones who are clutching tightly with both hands onto the sh1tty end of every stick going are the Native Americans but there isn't a Red Lives Matter protest going on so they're a different story.

Hey Ho
 
In light of all the racial shenannagins in the US, I've been doing a bit of digging around the net for myself to try and see what is what, avoiding Wikki as it is notoriously unreliable.

So, first up, 20 per cent of Black Americans live below the poverty line, and they make up 30 percent of that group.

Therefore, most black people are not poor, and most poor people are not black - which, I think, differs more than somewhat from how the situation is usually portrayed by hand wringers.

But I have to say they do seem to be taking it up the arrse dry when it comes to the justice system.

African Americans are much more likely to be arrested than whites, once they are arrested they are much more likely to be convicted, and once convicted they are six times more likely to be incarcerated.

In confrontations with the police, they are 2.5 times more likely to be shot than other racial groups.

The vast majority of people shot by police were armed in one way or another, but of those who turn out to be unarmed, 40 per cent of them were black.

It may be that I have statistically disappeared up my own backside with this, but from what I can make of it it does all seem a bit harsh.

The Hispanics appear to jog on roughly in line with their population numbers, but the ones who are clutching tightly with both hands onto the sh1tty end of every stick going are the Native Americans but there isn't a Red Lives Matter protest going on so they're a different story.

Hey Ho
But if certain racial groups commit disproportionate amount of crime, won't they be arrested and incarcerated more often?

Won't they be in violent encounters with police more often?
 
why do they need enough helicopters to mount an assault on a small country
Better coverage?

The Met covers an area of 609 square miles. Pretty much all of which is city.
The County of Los Angeles is 4,751 square miles, much of which looks like this, which is about 15 miles from downtown LA.
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A Ford Explorer is not going to get there quickly. The Met also is not tasked with things like search and rescue of lost hikers or injured off-roaders (Or if it is, I don't see it as particularly common).

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I don't think the air requirements for the two police forces are entirely comparable.

In fairness, LASD and LAPD both have about 20 helos each, and LAPD's area is only 510square miles, though with a lesser density than the Met's area and still a few more mountains.
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But if certain racial groups commit disproportionate amount of crime, won't they be arrested and incarcerated more often?

Won't they be in violent encounters with police more often?
It's hard to tell I suppose but para 5 in my post is trying to compare like for like after arrest.

Also I don't get the impression, sat in Europe obviously, that the Hispanics are particularly behind the ball when it comes to gangs, drug sales etc etc.

I did try to find the racial mix in the prison population but on the sites I found the Hispanics were counted in with whites which doesn't help.

The other thing that has held me back a bit is that Black Americans are classified as a race, whereas Hispanics are described as an ethnic group, and I don't understand the difference.
 
Also think that whiter Than white C-32A be involved in ferrying umm the the Capitol. One of which used to be unmarked bar the flag but has now stars and bars. Well it was unmarked 6 years ago when I saw it on approach to the ‘Hall. It usually carries contingency response teams if all hell breaks lose say at embassy

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Also think that whiter Than white C-32A be involved in ferrying umm the the Capitol. One of which used to be unmarked bar the flag but has now stars and bars. Well it was unmarked 6 years ago when I saw it on approach to the ‘Hall. It usually carries contingency response teams if all hell breaks lose say at embassy

Cheers

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Why are they putting the flag of the Confederate States of America on US government aircraft in the 21st C? America, it's a bit odd.
 
Better coverage?

The Met covers an area of 609 square miles. Pretty much all of which is city.
The County of Los Angeles is 4,751 square miles, much of which looks like this, which is about 15 miles from downtown LA.
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A Ford Explorer is not going to get there quickly. The Met also is not tasked with things like search and rescue of lost hikers or injured off-roaders (Or if it is, I don't see it as particularly common).

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I don't think the air requirements for the two police forces are entirely comparable.

In fairness, LASD and LAPD both have about 20 helos each, and LAPD's area is only 510square miles, though with a lesser density than the Met's area and still a few more mountains. View attachment 480493
Went to visit LASD Aero Bureau Back in January after Heli Expo in Anaheim. Very professional outfit ...with Airbus Helicopters AS350B3/H125 Astars, have 3 x AS332L1 Super Pumas for their Air 5 SAR Program. They bought second hand via Heli-One to replace their ex Navy Uh-3H Sea Kings (which also replace their legacy Sikorsky S-58T ). I saw their first Super Puma seven years ago (my photos from Heli Expo 2013 Vegas). Air 5 personnel are not only paramedics, swift water rescue specialists, divers but are SWAT trained.

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In lieu of 9/11 since 2003, LAPD ASTRO (Air Support To Regular Officers) has a Homeland Security Division where their SWAT sit on Tyler Special Ops mounts on the skids of their Astars (AS350/H125) around the skyline. My photo of their airborne piece of firepower from HelI Expo 2012 in Dallas. think Blue Thunder movie and tv series.

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Their fleet is now Airbus Helicopters AS350B2 and newer H125 (My photos of their H125 from Heli Expo 2020 back in January)

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And they have a couple of legacy Bell 206B Jet Ranger III for training So my photo from Heli Expo 2009 in Anaheim.

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cheers
 
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?? you calling Stars and Stripes a confederate flag lol...

Cheers
No, he called the Stars and Bars a confederate flag. And he is quite correct.

They bought second hand via Heli-Epapde their ex Navy Uh-3H Sea Kings
That doesn't sound right. The Pumas were purchased to replace the SH-3s, which had been technically loaned to them by the US Navy under the "Cascade military equipment to the police" program. It required Congressional intervention, as the Navy considered them surplus, but not retired. (They have to be retired to be cascaded to police). There was quite a scandal involving corruption when it came time to return the helos to the Navy, with people pinching components and replacing them with defective ones.

Interesting 3-part article on the matter.
 
So Americans are protesting all over the country because their police aren't well enough trained and the job doesn't pay enough to attract and keep the best people. The Los Angeles solution to that problem? Cut the police budget and invest the money in minority communities. You couldn't make it up.

Mayor Yoga pants ( as he is known here) is an Idiot. Too many cops... With a city of 20-25 % illegals and some of the biggest gangs in the world.. Might be time to cash in and move to a Whiter more conservative area.
 

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