America - its all a bit odd...

It's odd how the US cops, in urban, temperate environments, dress in desert camos, presumably because they want to look like soldiers.

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In the middle of reading this. Seems they have the weapons to match.

 
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In the middle of reading this. Seems they have the weapons to match.

US Police have since the early 20th century had even fully automatic arms.

NYPD had a motorcycle machinegun combo with a mounted M1895 Colt potato digger in 1915

NYPD's first Thompsons were confiscated M1921's meant for the IRA (they STILL have some) I fired one at Rodmans Neck NYPD range back in 2006

After WW2 Thompsons of all the various flavors, M1 & m2 carbines. Reising M50 & M55's all were given to local Police departments for shipping costs alone.

none of this is news to those who have the slightest awareness
 
That's an arguable point but not the point he was making. He was complaining about dessies rather than urbans. Like I said they get what they are given. If voters want to pay for shiny new police tactical gear most will never use more than once a year then I guess they will vote for someone who proposes that budget.
I know the individual policemen don't get to choose what their uniform is, but the cities and state should be making sure that their police are dressed in uniforms which they look good in. By "good" I mean as in well fitting, well tailored, and looking like traditional policemen and women, not like an army of occupation. Much of what the police need to do involves making a good impression on people and inspiring confidence in the police, and looks play a big part in that.

For riot duty on the baton line in full riot gear or on other special duties, a set of well fitting blue coveralls which are flame resistant and of the same colour as their regular police uniform trousers would be both practical and still leave them looking police-like. The cost is pretty minor compared to how much they spend on cars, fuel, and all the other kit, before you even get into the wages of the people they are standing up in those uniforms.

Dressing police up in surplus army uniforms will open them to the contempt of the American populace, who don't see themselves as living in a banana republic where the army has to be called out to support the government all the time.

In a role where making the right sort of impression on people at first glance is a big part of the job, being properly dressed matters. This is a higher level policy decision, and it's not something they can change at short notice, but making a poor impression on people is something that will be paid for in the form of burnt buildings and damaged economies for years to come.
 

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What the fuck is wrong with these people, "taking a knee" is just rubbing it in considering how the guy died, the insensitive bastards!
There is literally vomit in my mouth at this. Just had some tawat stick it on my FB feed as well, unfriended before I even read his dribble.
 
US Police have since the early 20th century had even fully automatic arms.

NYPD had a motorcycle machinegun combo with a mounted M1895 Colt potato digger in 1915

NYPD's first Thompsons were confiscated M1921's meant for the IRA (they STILL have some) I fired one at Rodmans Neck NYPD range back in 2006

After WW2 Thompsons of all the various flavors, M1 & m2 carbines. Reising M50 & M55's all were given to local Police departments for shipping costs alone.

none of this is news to those who have the slightest awareness
Ignore the headline which some sub-editor chose to put on the article. The main thrust of it was not so much the equipment, but rather how rapidly the use of force gets escalated in the US these days. It's not so much what toys the US police have, it's how readily they're used. The same has been said in other news articles as well previous to this.

Police forces in Europe have rifles and submachine guns as well. You can see them on the news sometimes, or when passing through an airport. They seem to resort to them less often however.
 
I know the individual policemen don't get to choose what their uniform is, but the cities and state should be making sure that their police are dressed in uniforms which they look good in. By "good" I mean as in well fitting, well tailored, and looking like traditional policemen and women, not like an army of occupation. Much of what the police need to do involves making a good impression on people and inspiring confidence in the police, and looks play a big part in that.

For riot duty on the baton line in full riot gear or on other special duties, a set of well fitting blue coveralls which are flame resistant and of the same colour as their regular police uniform trousers would be both practical and still leave them looking police-like. The cost is pretty minor compared to how much they spend on cars, fuel, and all the other kit, before you even get into the wages of the people they are standing up in those uniforms.

Dressing police up in surplus army uniforms will open them to the contempt of the American populace, who don't see themselves as living in a banana republic where the army has to be called out to support the government all the time.

In a role where making the right sort of impression on people at first glance is a big part of the job, being properly dressed matters. This is a higher level policy decision, and it's not something they can change at short notice, but making a poor impression on people is something that will be paid for in the form of burnt buildings and damaged economies for years to come.
No one gives a phuc about smart fitted dress style blues for riot work. It's dirty, dangerous work and you get blood and other Bio hazards on your clothes and those clothes need to be tough, and cheap to purchase in bulk - just the thing surplus mil fatigues were designed for. They wear pads thanks to vermin throwing rocks, bricks petrol bombs at them, swinging pipes at them etc. This aint phucking Andy Griffiths Mayberry.

If the impression is Intimidation thats good, maybe the vermin will think twice

trying to blame the burned buildings on cops wearing desert fatigues is inane and obtuse
 
I know the individual policemen don't get to choose what their uniform is, but the cities and state should be making sure that their police are dressed in uniforms which they look good in. By "good" I mean as in well fitting, well tailored, and looking like traditional policemen and women, not like an army of occupation. Much of what the police need to do involves making a good impression on people and inspiring confidence in the police, and looks play a big part in that.

For riot duty on the baton line in full riot gear or on other special duties, a set of well fitting blue coveralls which are flame resistant and of the same colour as their regular police uniform trousers would be both practical and still leave them looking police-like. The cost is pretty minor compared to how much they spend on cars, fuel, and all the other kit, before you even get into the wages of the people they are standing up in those uniforms.

Dressing police up in surplus army uniforms will open them to the contempt of the American populace, who don't see themselves as living in a banana republic where the army has to be called out to support the government all the time.

In a role where making the right sort of impression on people at first glance is a big part of the job, being properly dressed matters. This is a higher level policy decision, and it's not something they can change at short notice, but making a poor impression on people is something that will be paid for in the form of burnt buildings and damaged economies for years to come.
FFS. You weren't in the Guards were you?
 
I know the individual policemen don't get to choose what their uniform is, but the cities and state should be making sure that their police are dressed in uniforms which they look good in. By "good" I mean as in well fitting, well tailored, and looking like traditional policemen and women, not like an army of occupation. Much of what the police need to do involves making a good impression on people and inspiring confidence in the police, and looks play a big part in that.

For riot duty on the baton line in full riot gear or on other special duties, a set of well fitting blue coveralls which are flame resistant and of the same colour as their regular police uniform trousers would be both practical and still leave them looking police-like. The cost is pretty minor compared to how much they spend on cars, fuel, and all the other kit, before you even get into the wages of the people they are standing up in those uniforms.

Dressing police up in surplus army uniforms will open them to the contempt of the American populace, who don't see themselves as living in a banana republic where the army has to be called out to support the government all the time.

In a role where making the right sort of impression on people at first glance is a big part of the job, being properly dressed matters. This is a higher level policy decision, and it's not something they can change at short notice, but making a poor impression on people is something that will be paid for in the form of burnt buildings and damaged economies for years to come.
They all do. However riot gear is ppe so that does not have to look smart it just needs to stop them getting killed by rioters.
 
I know the individual policemen don't get to choose what their uniform is, but the cities and state should be making sure that their police are dressed in uniforms which they look good in. By "good" I mean as in well fitting, well tailored, and looking like traditional policemen and women, not like an army of occupation. Much of what the police need to do involves making a good impression on people and inspiring confidence in the police, and looks play a big part in that.

For riot duty on the baton line in full riot gear or on other special duties, a set of well fitting blue coveralls which are flame resistant and of the same colour as their regular police uniform trousers would be both practical and still leave them looking police-like. The cost is pretty minor compared to how much they spend on cars, fuel, and all the other kit, before you even get into the wages of the people they are standing up in those uniforms.

Dressing police up in surplus army uniforms will open them to the contempt of the American populace, who don't see themselves as living in a banana republic where the army has to be called out to support the government all the time.

In a role where making the right sort of impression on people at first glance is a big part of the job, being properly dressed matters. This is a higher level policy decision, and it's not something they can change at short notice, but making a poor impression on people is something that will be paid for in the form of burnt buildings and damaged economies for years to come.
I have always been under the impression that any civilised countries army existed to repel or to safeguard against external threats.
If the army is being used here that does not appear to be the case.
 
Trump holding a bible.

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He does not even know how to hold it correctly in an attempt to make a point.
If you look at the spine and the page marker hanging down, it is obviously upside down and back to front.
The idiot cannot even get a photo op correct.
 
FBI statistics show more whites killed by Police than Blacks. Now here's the thing herr Oberstupidfuhrer, IF police were hunting down blacks for sport the death toll would run in the hundreds of thousands.

But do go on showing your hysterics

meanwhile the facts

50% of fatal police involved killings have a white casualty
26% of fatal police involved killings have a black casualty
When 'whites' constitute 60% of the population, while 'blacks' only constitute 12%. While the raw numbers show one thing, the percentage in comparison to the actual population make-up show a quite different story, with 'blacks' proportionally much more likely to be killed by police.

 
US Police have since the early 20th century had even fully automatic arms.

NYPD had a motorcycle machinegun combo with a mounted M1895 Colt potato digger in 1915

NYPD's first Thompsons were confiscated M1921's meant for the IRA (they STILL have some) I fired one at Rodmans Neck NYPD range back in 2006

After WW2 Thompsons of all the various flavors, M1 & m2 carbines. Reising M50 & M55's all were given to local Police departments for shipping costs alone.

none of this is news to those who have the slightest awareness
you must feel so proud living in a banana Republic

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When 'whites' constitute 60% of the population, while 'blacks' only constitute 12%. While the raw numbers show one thing, the percentage in comparison to the actual population make-up show a quite different story, with 'blacks' proportionally much more likely to be killed by police.

please don’t confuse him with any maths more complex than 2+2, he runs out of fingers and starts shouting Trump!
 
No one gives a phuc about smart fitted dress style blues for riot work. It's dirty, dangerous work and you get blood and other Bio hazards on your clothes and those clothes need to be tough, and cheap to purchase in bulk - just the thing surplus mil fatigues were designed for. They wear pads thanks to vermin throwing rocks, bricks petrol bombs at them, swinging pipes at them etc. This aint phucking Andy Griffiths Mayberry.

If the impression is Intimidation thats good, maybe the vermin will think twice

trying to blame the burned buildings on cops wearing desert fatigues is inane and obtuse
‘vermin’?

careful these Cleatus, Your white sheets showing.
 

W21A

LE
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Having the army on the streets is a failure of home policy. Note how Op Banner started and how long it took to get the British Army back off the streets.
 
Having the army on the streets is a failure of home policy. Note how Op Banner started and how long it took to get the British Army back off the streets.
yes, but we regard the army on the streets as something exceptional, only to be done in extremis, its the normal state of affairs in ’Murica.
we don’t generally get the army to shoot students either or have public servants talking about ‘dominating the battle space’ when talking about street protests.
 
Trump holding a bible.

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He does not even know how to hold it correctly in an attempt to make a point.
If you look at the spine and the page marker hanging down, it is obviously upside down
The idiot cannot even get a photo op correct.
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When 'whites' constitute 60% of the population, while 'blacks' only constitute 12%. While the raw numbers show one thing, the percentage in comparison to the actual population make-up show a quite different story, with 'blacks' proportionally much more likely to be killed by police.

So is that just a colour issue, and how doe sit match up with the percentage of each colour that are likely to engage in crime?
 

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