America - its all a bit odd...

To the Americans and those Brits living in the US.

OK, you've got the 2nd Amendment and for better for worse the current interpretation of what it means and what it was intended for.

But are those who dress as pseudo commandos and SWAT teams donning combats, assault vests, helmets, KBars strapped to webbing a la Vietnam War style, face masks etc., seen as being 'normal' or are they seen as extremists, knob heads who like dressing up, big kids with boys toys, etc., etc., ?

I'm sure there's a range of motives for dressing up as they do, but I'm wondering how the ordinary person in everytown US sees them. (Yeah I know, the US is huge and there's differences between the varying states).
If one takes the US definition of the Militia seriously* then why shouldnt one have such gear if they so choose.

*
10 U.S. Code § 246.Militia: composition and classes

(a)
The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.
(b)The classes of the militia are—
(1)
the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and

(2)
the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.


 
If one takes the US definition of the Militia seriously* then why shouldnt one have such gear if they so choose.

*
10 U.S. Code § 246.Militia: composition and classes

(a)
The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.
(b)The classes of the militia are—
(1)
the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and

(2)
the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.


Delete scientists, insert "fat, wheezing fantasists"

 
I would go with “knobheads”.

Or to be more scientific “socially and sexually repressed inadequates who are failures in life and have found a penis/success substitute”.
Wut?
 
If one takes the US definition of the Militia seriously* then why shouldnt one have such gear if they so choose.

*
10 U.S. Code § 246.Militia: composition and classes

(a)
The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.
(b)The classes of the militia are—
(1)
the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and

(2)
the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.


Almost identical to the Florida code.

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On a positive note, it’s nice to see US companies supporting deployed troops in a more useful manner than the typical care package......https://www.stripes.com/news/us/porn-site-will-send-deployed-troops-personalized-naughty-cam-girl-videos-for-free-1.619154
 
On a positive note, it’s nice to see US companies supporting deployed troops in a more useful manner than the typical care package......https://www.stripes.com/news/us/porn-site-will-send-deployed-troops-personalized-naughty-cam-girl-videos-for-free-1.619154
Except its a UCMJ offence if caught watching or possessing it- violation of Centcom G.O. #1
 
To the Americans and those Brits living in the US.

OK, you've got the 2nd Amendment and for better for worse the current interpretation of what it means and what it was intended for.

But are those who dress as pseudo commandos and SWAT teams donning combats, assault vests, helmets, KBars strapped to webbing a la Vietnam War style, face masks etc., seen as being 'normal' or are they seen as extremists, knob heads who like dressing up, big kids with boys toys, etc., etc., ?

I'm sure there's a range of motives for dressing up as they do, but I'm wondering how the ordinary person in everytown US sees them. (Yeah I know, the US is huge and there's differences between the varying states).
You know those thousands of women wearing pink pussy hats... well they look saner than those.

I see it as a warning and tongue in cheek for the politicians ( those two anyway). Some are fantasists, some are good blokes there for a message, some are just trolling and love to make people cry online and some are borderline hungry for some thing to kick off (or like kebab shop kickboxing champions... look like they want something to kick off).

The reality is that they and the other thousands of 2A protesters in Virginia got the gun control laws stopped for now.
 
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If one takes the US definition of the Militia seriously* then why shouldnt one have such gear if they so choose.

*
10 U.S. Code § 246.Militia: composition and classes

(a)
The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.
(b)The classes of the militia are—
(1)
the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and

(2)
the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.


Does the unorganised militia actually serve any useful purpose, or is it now just a hangover of an idea left in place either to just to appease certain factions or no serious attempt to review and update the codes or whatever laws govern this? Bit like in England here, you can shoot a Welshman with your bow if found wandering the streets of Chester after dark.
 
To the Americans and those Brits living in the US.

OK, you've got the 2nd Amendment and for better for worse the current interpretation of what it means and what it was intended for.

But are those who dress as pseudo commandos and SWAT teams donning combats, assault vests, helmets, KBars strapped to webbing a la Vietnam War style, face masks etc., seen as being 'normal' or are they seen as extremists, knob heads who like dressing up, big kids with boys toys, etc., etc., ?

I'm sure there's a range of motives for dressing up as they do, but I'm wondering how the ordinary person in everytown US sees them. (Yeah I know, the US is huge and there's differences between the varying states).
They're just idiots, and seen as such.

Round here, camouflage clothing is very common. Not military pattern, civvy hunting pattern. Jackets, shirts and hats most commonly. But they don't go round toting weapons. No doubt most people who wear that gear do own firearms, but they don't generally wear gun belts or sling a rifle to go to Walmart. Bass Pro Shops is an absolute emporium of that kind of clothing tat.

I still have several DPM smocks, and just put one of those on if I'm shooting. Amazingly, they still fit me :) Very handy with all the pockets etc. But I wouldn't wear one to go shopping, for example.
 
They're just idiots, and seen as such.

Round here, camouflage clothing is very common. Not military pattern, civvy hunting pattern. Jackets, shirts and hats most commonly. But they don't go round toting weapons. No doubt most people who wear that gear do own firearms, but they don't generally wear gun belts or sling a rifle to go to Walmart. Bass Pro Shops is an absolute emporium of that kind of clothing tat.

I still have several DPM smocks, and just put one of those on if I'm shooting. Amazingly, they still fit me :) Very handy with all the pockets etc. But I wouldn't wear one to go shopping, for example.
I can see differing opinions on the gun toting combat clad types, some accepting but most I think tending to consider them knobheads.

And good to hear you can still get into your combats after a number of years. I would struggle to fit into the jeans I wore as a student, if I still had them. But then they were a 28" waist, but now 32" is a bit snug but still wearable. At 61 years though I'm not doing too badly.
 
Strike up the banjos (again). INcest, the game all the family can play.

'An 11-year-old girl has given birth to a baby allegedly fathered by her brother in the bathtub of her suburban home in St Louis, Missouri.

'Her mother and father have been charged with child endangerment and her brother, 17, has been charged with incest, statutory rape and statutory sodomy of a child younger than 12, NBC News reports. All three live in St Charles, Missouri.

'Police started investigating after the father brought the baby to a hospital on February 11. Charging documents said the infant still had the umbilical cord and placenta attached and had a body temperature of just 32C. The man initially said someone dropped the infant off on his front porch. He later explained he was a relative. He said he did not know the girl was pregnant or that she was being sexually assaulted until she gave birth.

'During questioning, the brother told police he had sex with the girl about 100 times but did not know she was pregnant, according to charging documents. The mother, who was charged on Tuesday, is accused of failing to provide the girl medical care when she gave birth.'


Same story that you've already posted? https://www.arrse.co.uk/community/threads/america-its-all-a-bit-odd.267199/page-532#post-9838446
 
They're just idiots, and seen as such.

Round here, camouflage clothing is very common. Not military pattern, civvy hunting pattern. Jackets, shirts and hats most commonly. But they don't go round toting weapons. No doubt most people who wear that gear do own firearms, but they don't generally wear gun belts or sling a rifle to go to Walmart. Bass Pro Shops is an absolute emporium of that kind of clothing tat.

I still have several DPM smocks, and just put one of those on if I'm shooting. Amazingly, they still fit me :) Very handy with all the pockets etc. But I wouldn't wear one to go shopping, for example.
Bass Pro has taken over Cabela's, probably the more popular one in MI for around 4B$ back a few years ago...
 
It does mean something...consolidating among the big chains.
Thought you had me on ignore? And it’s still business as usual for the consumer, nothing changed on ground, but considering you’re not from Michigan and have likely never step foot in the state you wouldn’t know that, nor would you know where actually outdoorsmen prefer to buy from......
 
Thought you had me on ignore? And it’s still business as usual for the consumer, nothing changed on ground, but considering you’re not from Michigan and have likely never step foot in the state you wouldn’t know that, nor would you know where actually outdoorsmen prefer to buy from......
LOL...and here again you're with your petulant convo.
 

Ritch

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I went into a Cabela's in Washington state last year and I couldn't believe that amount of things that had camouflage on. Shirts, trousers, shoes, tents... Barbeques... Literally everything had a camo pattern on it.
 

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