America - its all a bit odd...

Here they are called Mennonites, and we sometimes visit a place called St Jacobs to do much the same thing. I was never struck by their attractiveness, but a family together do have a distinctive aroma.
Confused me first the Mennonite and Amish thing. There were plenty of Mennonites around dressed up as full blown Amish working in businesses aimed at the tourists. The give away is the mobile phone in the pocket, or getting into the SUV to drive home.

Apparently the Mennonites are guided by the leaders of their particular church as to what they may use in the modern world ie. cars, computers, phones, etc, etc. Amish are just plain old grey looking, traditionally dressed individuals, no phones, horse drawn buggy for transport, 18 century farming methods. They make damn fine furniture though, all traditionally made solid wood stuff - we bought all our bedroom furniture from the Amish, you'd pay three or four times the amount for it in the UK.

Peaceful Valley Amish Furniture

If I were being polite I would say that most Amish women are plain (downright dogs) but, there are the few who seem to have missed the farmyard gene and come out looking good. You ain't wrong about the whiff, I used to use a Lowes for supplies that was frequented by Amish/Mennonite carpenters and roofers and soon learnt not to stand too close in the queue.
 
I must say these Uber electric scooters in Austin are the dogs bollocks. Wouldnt fancy using them in London.......
 
Confused me first the Mennonite and Amish thing. There were plenty of Mennonites around dressed up as full blown Amish working in businesses aimed at the tourists. The give away is the mobile phone in the pocket, or getting into the SUV to drive home.

Apparently the Mennonites are guided by the leaders of their particular church as to what they may use in the modern world ie. cars, computers, phones, etc, etc. Amish are just plain old grey looking, traditionally dressed individuals, no phones, horse drawn buggy for transport, 18 century farming methods. They make damn fine furniture though, all traditionally made solid wood stuff - we bought all our bedroom furniture from the Amish, you'd pay three or four times the amount for it in the UK.

Peaceful Valley Amish Furniture

If I were being polite I would say that most Amish women are plain (downright dogs) but, there are the few who seem to have missed the farmyard gene and come out looking good. You ain't wrong about the whiff, I used to use a Lowes for supplies that was frequented by Amish/Mennonite carpenters and roofers and soon learnt not to stand too close in the queue.
In Canada the two factions are called "Old Order" and "New Order" Mennonites. The Old Order ones ride use horse and buggies, won't use electricity or telephones (with some exceptions for business purposes), and dress in traditional clothing.

The New Order ones exist on a broad spectrum of modernity and will adopt varying degrees of modern technology. That could mean anything in terms of it's OK to have a car provided it's black and the chrome trim is painted over, to it's OK to drive a completely normal unmodified car provided it isn't flashy. The less strict New Order ones appear, on the surface at least, to be indistinguishable from anyone else. I used to know one who was an electrician working in industrial automation.

Their religious beliefs appear to be less about the rejection of technology altogether, but more about living austerely and not adopting technology for the sake of making their personal lives comfortable. So for example an Old Order Mennonite might not have a phone in his house, but he might have one in his barn to use for business purposes.

The name "Mennonite" comes from their founder, a man by the name of "Menno". They originated in Germany.

I have never heard anyone in Canada refer to them "Amish". That seems to be an American thing, although I can't discount the possibility of some Canadian Mennonites using it amongst themselves. I used to live in a area with quite a few of them, and saw their horse and buggies on the road on a regular basis. The local shopping mall had a special parking area for them where they could tie up their horses while they were shopping.

I don't see them much where I am now except occasionally in hospitals. The men dress in a fairly unremarkable fashion and don't really stand out from anyone else who dresses for outdoor work. The women and girls though wear traditional dresses and caps that look like 19th century eastern European peasant clothes.

Around here they farm, but also build high quality custom homes and handmade wooden furniture.
 
I must say these Uber electric scooters in Austin are the dogs bollocks. Wouldnt fancy using them in London.......
Hence why companies like Lime/ Bird/ Jump etc still haven't been able to launch in cites like London and NYC. In the UK, Lime just launched in Milton Keynes. They are launching in lots of other mainland European cities in Spain, Portugal, France etc.

You need wide-ish pavement, not too crazy roads, pedestrian density etc., this is where they fall flat in London and NYC. NYC is considering changing its laws though, but it will be a slow process.
 

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Hence why companies like Lime/ Bird/ Jump etc still haven't been able to launch in cites like London and NYC. In the UK, Lime just launched in Milton Keynes. They are launching in lots of other mainland European cities in Spain, Portugal, France etc.

You need wide-ish pavement, not too crazy roads, pedestrian density etc., this is where they fall flat in London and NYC. NYC is considering changing its laws though, but it will be a slow process.
Bird have a small trial going on around the Olympic Stadium area, can't say that I was impressed with them though.
 

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Well how much do you folks get taxed for the NHS?
Everybody who works legally has a deduction called National Insurance taken out of their pay packet . I've been paying it since I was 16 years old, working at a gas station on weekends and holidays. If you earn less than US$148 per week , you pay nothing . Your Employer also pays 13.8% into 'your' NI pot.

Your NI number is allocated when you first take up work and sticks with you for life. US equivalent is your social Security number.

Since 2004 when some Socialist lunatic declared 'we're all Yurpeans now' you can legally work in this country provided you have a valid National Insurance number.

A while ago our equivalent of ICE did a raid on a cleaning company in that there London....Guess what?

75 people were using the same, fraudulent, National Insurance number ....

Fraud fear as millions of NI numbers are lost
 
Everybody who works legally has a deduction called National Insurance taken out of their pay packet . I've been paying it since I was 16 years old, working at a gas station on weekends and holidays. If you earn less than US$148 per week , you pay nothing . Your Employer also pays 13.8% into 'your' NI pot.

Your NI number is allocated when you first take up work and sticks with you for life. US equivalent is your social Security number.

Since 2004 when some Socialist lunatic declared 'we're all Yurpeans now' you can legally work in this country provided you have a valid National Insurance number.

A while ago our equivalent of ICE did a raid on a cleaning company in that there London....Guess what?

75 people were using the same, fraudulent, National Insurance number ....

Fraud fear as millions of NI numbers are lost
Do you mind if get personal and ask how much you pay a year??

I pay $47.49 every month for the Federal Medicare tax.

DENT PREV TAX $48.20 $530.20
DEP LIFE TAXED $1.46 $16.06
MEDICAL TAXED $266.24 $2,928.64
VISION TAXED $21.74 $239.14

Those are the monthly taxes for my insurance with the year to date total to the right. Current through the end of November.
 
Do you mind if get personal and ask how much you pay a year??

I pay $47.49 every month for the Federal Medicare tax.

DENT PREV TAX $48.20 $530.20
DEP LIFE TAXED $1.46 $16.06
MEDICAL TAXED $266.24 $2,928.64
VISION TAXED $21.74 $239.14

Those are the monthly taxes for my insurance with the year to date total to the right. Current through the end of November.
National Insurance is deducted at source as a percentage of income:

National Insurance
 
Hence why companies like Lime/ Bird/ Jump etc still haven't been able to launch in cites like London and NYC. In the UK, Lime just launched in Milton Keynes. They are launching in lots of other mainland European cities in Spain, Portugal, France etc.

You need wide-ish pavement, not too crazy roads, pedestrian density etc., this is where they fall flat in London and NYC. NYC is considering changing its laws though, but it will be a slow process.
Well in NYC for one it is illegal to ride a bicycle or scooter on the sidewalk. We have enough darwin winners walking into intersections while texting and not looking up
 
Depends on your DOB.

It was 60 for women and 65 for men.

Osbourne moved it all up. My pensionable age is now 65 years 8 months.

I know women younger than me whose pensionable age is 68.

And Osbourne has not yet been dangled from a lamppost. Shame.
 
Depends on your DOB.

It was 60 for women and 65 for men.

Osbourne moved it all up. My pensionable age is now 65 years 8 months.

I know women younger than me whose pensionable age is 68.

And Osbourne has not yet been dangled from a lamppost. Shame.
Well you lot tend to live longer in life than your for bearers....
 
Our prescription costs are also fixed. Each item on a prescription costs £8.80. You can buy a 3 month prepayment certificate for £29.10 and one valid for a year for £104. If you're under 16, over 60 or have one of variety of chronic diseases (diabetes etc.) prescriptions are free.
 
Our prescription costs are also fixed. Each item on a prescription costs £8.80. You can buy a 3 month prepayment certificate for £29.10 and one valid for a year for £104. If you're under 16, over 60 or have one of variety of chronic diseases (diabetes etc.) prescriptions are free.
My costs for the generic drugs are normally about $10 a pop. However the name brand stuff can be ghastly expensive.....
 
National Insurance is a little bit misleading. It's not insurance in that it's stashed away until you need it - it's just another form of taxation. It's not hypothecated - It all goes into the same big pot.
Not quite. It is looked on as another tax but is ring fenced and can only pay for the NHS, unemployment benefits, sickness and disability allowance and the state pension.
Since 2012 about 20% of the NI Payments go to the NHS which is up from the 10% previously.
Because of this, the National Insurance Fund which was rather a lot in credit at one stage is now forecast to be around 30 billion pounds instead of the forecasted 114 billion pounds before 2012.

The government can't use the payments or the fund for anything other than those listed above but it can borrow from it.

Interest from the National Insurance Fund does not go back into the fund but is used to pay towards the national debt.
 
3 years after you die.
Exactly three years in my father’s case. Two years National Service, 35 years a Sapper and croaked at 62.

Went to the Registry Office in Wisbech to register his death. Registrar asked if he had a services pension. I said yes. She said “Right, I will have that stopped immediately”. I wanted to smack her in the mouth but merely asked her if she was off sick when they ran the sympathy lessons.
 
Exactly three years in my father’s case. Two years National Service, 35 years a Sapper and croaked at 62.

Went to the Registry Office in Wisbech to register his death. Registrar asked if he had a services pension. I said yes. She said “Right, I will have that stopped immediately”. I wanted to smack her in the mouth but merely asked her if she was off sick when they ran the sympathy lessons.
As bad as this sounds, Government employees tend to deal with far to many people to get emotionally invested. Granted tact is appropriate in some cases.
 

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