America - its all a bit odd...

ancienturion

LE
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A Glock?

A bleedin' Glock?

No thanks...

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I would really really like to know how that pistol could possibly take either of the two very large magazines shown at the back.

Being serious I did find a gunsmith/shop in NY state actually making a handgun for rifle cartridges, all for a customer who wanted to shoot bear - with a handgun.
 

My reaction when I found out BYU got Wyoming’s bowl game this year......I fecking hate the Mormons....:mad::censored:
Why?
One of my mates in OR is a Mormon & a rally nice guy.
What I can't stand is religious zealots, of any stripe. Oh & the smug, pious "look at meee!" types.
 
I would really really like to know how that pistol could possibly take either of the two very large magazines shown at the back.

Being serious I did find a gunsmith/shop in NY state actually making a handgun for rifle cartridges, all for a customer who wanted to shoot bear - with a handgun.
I've fired one chambered for what's in those magazines.
nasty is the only fitting description of the recoil.
 
Why?
One of my mates in OR is a Mormon & a rally nice guy.
What I can't stand is religious zealots, of any stripe. Oh & the smug, pious "look at meee!" types.
The closer you are to the Holy land (Utah) the more zealous they are. I don’t like how they treat their young women. They send them to college (finishing school) to marry a missionary and start pooping out kids early. My best mate in high school turned into an utter douche when he was on his mission, came home got hitched at 21 and popped out three kids he was not ready for. He was divorced at 27 and the same with both his sisters.

Besides Wyoming fans hate BYU and CSU. We have an image to maintain.
 

seaweed

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You sound like the people we met when we drove from SF to Tampa, asking us why we didn't just fly.
We tried to stay off the interstates as much as possible (except for the El Paso to San Antonio bit, that was just 500 miles of nuthin!), and in doing so saw things that weren't in any guide books and met people that had barely been outside their own county, never mind abroad. Wouldn't have got that flying the friendly skies!
A bit late with this one but one April I drove from Houston to San Antonio (in the days when I had an employer to pick up the bills) and the wild flowers were really something. There's a packet of seed for them in a drawer somewhere, one day I may scatter them privily for the future amazement and bafflement of the locals. Also a packet of seeds for Texas bluebonnets which presumably are bigger and better and smellier than those from any other State.
 
A bit late with this one but one April I drove from Houston to San Antonio (in the days when I had an employer to pick up the bills) and the wild flowers were really something. There's a packet of seed for them in a drawer somewhere, one day I may scatter them privily for the future amazement and bafflement of the locals. Also a packet of seeds for Texas bluebonnets which presumably are bigger and better and smellier than those from any other State.
Good thing the UK doesn't have OZ style quarantine laws.
 
The closer you are to the Holy land (Utah) the more zealous they are. I don’t like how they treat their young women. They send them to college (finishing school) to marry a missionary and start pooping out kids early. My best mate in high school turned into an utter douche when he was on his mission, came home got hitched at 21 and popped out three kids he was not ready for. He was divorced at 27 and the same with both his sisters.

Besides Wyoming fans hate BYU and CSU. We have an image to maintain.
Seems to me you believe the BS, rather than the reality, as I've yet to meet a Mormon anywhere who treats their women as anything but equals.
Don't get me wrong, as I agree such things happen but no more so than in many other sectors of society & a fuxite less than in some.

PS Have you considered that your mate's family might well have been a bunch of dysfunctional douches no matter what sky pixie they followed?
 
Seems to me you believe the BS, rather than the reality, as I've yet to meet a Mormon anywhere who treats their women as anything but equals.
Don't get me wrong, as I agree such things happen but no more so than in many other sectors of society & a fuxite less than in some.

PS Have you considered that your mate's family might well have been a bunch of dysfunctional douches no matter what sky pixie they followed?
Go to a temple and ask to observe a ward in action.

What It's Like to Be a Mormon Woman | HuffPost
 
Seems to me you believe the BS, rather than the reality, as I've yet to meet a Mormon anywhere who treats their women as anything but equals.
Don't get me wrong, as I agree such things happen but no more so than in many other sectors of society & a fuxite less than in some.

PS Have you considered that your mate's family might well have been a bunch of dysfunctional douches no matter what sky pixie they followed?
I'm afraid it's more a case of you being fortunate in the Mormons you have met. It is quite well documented that Mormon women are treated little more than breeding machines and unpaid servants. They aren't much different to some Arab states in that respect.
 
I'm afraid it's more a case of you being fortunate in the Mormons you have met. It is quite well documented that Mormon women are treated little more than breeding machines and unpaid servants. They aren't much different to some Arab states in that respect.
And don't forget the Amish they are just as bad. We used to go to Amish country for days out and buy traditionally prepared foodie items.

Being a Class 1 perv I could not help notice how gorgeous some of the Amish women are. But, there they are traipsing around wearing long sack like clothing walking from A to B, doing manual work in the fields at early o'clock, then having to go home and prep the old mans dinner, wash his clothes and clean the home. Some of them could seriously be world class models, but they have farm labourers hands.

Back to Mormons: Salt Lake City, the home of all things Mormon, has a serious, and I mean serious, drug problem - heroin, crack and meth. All the pressures of conforming and fitting into a tightly defined life takes it's toll. I've seen a couple of docu's on Salt Lake City and its narco problems, one of them was about the cartels expanding in there.
 
And don't forget the Amish they are just as bad. We used to go to Amish country for days out and buy traditionally prepared foodie items.

Being a Class 1 perv I could not help notice how gorgeous some of the Amish women are. But, there they are traipsing around wearing long sack like clothing walking from A to B, doing manual work in the fields at early o'clock, then having to go home and prep the old mans dinner, wash his clothes and clean the home. Some of them could seriously be world class models, but they have farm labourers hands.

Back to Mormons: Salt Lake City, the home of all things Mormon, has a serious, and I mean serious, drug problem - heroin, crack and meth. All the pressures of conforming and fitting into a tightly defined life takes it's toll. I've seen a couple of docu's on Salt Lake City and its narco problems, one of them was about the cartels expanding in there.
Here they are called Mennonites, and we sometimes visit a place called St Jacobs to do much the same thing. I was never struck by their attractiveness, but a family together do have a distinctive aroma.
 
And don't forget the Amish they are just as bad. We used to go to Amish country for days out and buy traditionally prepared foodie items.

Being a Class 1 perv I could not help notice how gorgeous some of the Amish women are. But, there they are traipsing around wearing long sack like clothing walking from A to B, doing manual work in the fields at early o'clock, then having to go home and prep the old mans dinner, wash his clothes and clean the home. Some of them could seriously be world class models, but they have farm labourers hands.

Back to Mormons: Salt Lake City, the home of all things Mormon, has a serious, and I mean serious, drug problem - heroin, crack and meth. All the pressures of conforming and fitting into a tightly defined life takes it's toll. I've seen a couple of docu's on Salt Lake City and its narco problems, one of them was about the cartels expanding in there.
Ever since Utah lowered their BAC threshold to .05, they have been a nightmare to deal with. Those damn Sermon Sam’s and Sally’s just come here to drink.
 
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Here they are called Mennonites, and we sometimes visit a place called St Jacobs to do much the same thing. I was never struck by their attractiveness, but a family together do have a distinctive aroma.
Confused me first the Mennonite and Amish thing. There were plenty of Mennonites around dressed up as full blown Amish working in businesses aimed at the tourists. The give away is the mobile phone in the pocket, or getting into the SUV to drive home.

Apparently the Mennonites are guided by the leaders of their particular church as to what they may use in the modern world ie. cars, computers, phones, etc, etc. Amish are just plain old grey looking, traditionally dressed individuals, no phones, horse drawn buggy for transport, 18 century farming methods. They make damn fine furniture though, all traditionally made solid wood stuff - we bought all our bedroom furniture from the Amish, you'd pay three or four times the amount for it in the UK.

Peaceful Valley Amish Furniture

If I were being polite I would say that most Amish women are plain (downright dogs) but, there are the few who seem to have missed the farmyard gene and come out looking good. You ain't wrong about the whiff, I used to use a Lowes for supplies that was frequented by Amish/Mennonite carpenters and roofers and soon learnt not to stand too close in the queue.
 
I must say these Uber electric scooters in Austin are the dogs bollocks. Wouldnt fancy using them in London.......
 
Confused me first the Mennonite and Amish thing. There were plenty of Mennonites around dressed up as full blown Amish working in businesses aimed at the tourists. The give away is the mobile phone in the pocket, or getting into the SUV to drive home.

Apparently the Mennonites are guided by the leaders of their particular church as to what they may use in the modern world ie. cars, computers, phones, etc, etc. Amish are just plain old grey looking, traditionally dressed individuals, no phones, horse drawn buggy for transport, 18 century farming methods. They make damn fine furniture though, all traditionally made solid wood stuff - we bought all our bedroom furniture from the Amish, you'd pay three or four times the amount for it in the UK.

Peaceful Valley Amish Furniture

If I were being polite I would say that most Amish women are plain (downright dogs) but, there are the few who seem to have missed the farmyard gene and come out looking good. You ain't wrong about the whiff, I used to use a Lowes for supplies that was frequented by Amish/Mennonite carpenters and roofers and soon learnt not to stand too close in the queue.
In Canada the two factions are called "Old Order" and "New Order" Mennonites. The Old Order ones ride use horse and buggies, won't use electricity or telephones (with some exceptions for business purposes), and dress in traditional clothing.

The New Order ones exist on a broad spectrum of modernity and will adopt varying degrees of modern technology. That could mean anything in terms of it's OK to have a car provided it's black and the chrome trim is painted over, to it's OK to drive a completely normal unmodified car provided it isn't flashy. The less strict New Order ones appear, on the surface at least, to be indistinguishable from anyone else. I used to know one who was an electrician working in industrial automation.

Their religious beliefs appear to be less about the rejection of technology altogether, but more about living austerely and not adopting technology for the sake of making their personal lives comfortable. So for example an Old Order Mennonite might not have a phone in his house, but he might have one in his barn to use for business purposes.

The name "Mennonite" comes from their founder, a man by the name of "Menno". They originated in Germany.

I have never heard anyone in Canada refer to them "Amish". That seems to be an American thing, although I can't discount the possibility of some Canadian Mennonites using it amongst themselves. I used to live in a area with quite a few of them, and saw their horse and buggies on the road on a regular basis. The local shopping mall had a special parking area for them where they could tie up their horses while they were shopping.

I don't see them much where I am now except occasionally in hospitals. The men dress in a fairly unremarkable fashion and don't really stand out from anyone else who dresses for outdoor work. The women and girls though wear traditional dresses and caps that look like 19th century eastern European peasant clothes.

Around here they farm, but also build high quality custom homes and handmade wooden furniture.
 
I must say these Uber electric scooters in Austin are the dogs bollocks. Wouldnt fancy using them in London.......
Hence why companies like Lime/ Bird/ Jump etc still haven't been able to launch in cites like London and NYC. In the UK, Lime just launched in Milton Keynes. They are launching in lots of other mainland European cities in Spain, Portugal, France etc.

You need wide-ish pavement, not too crazy roads, pedestrian density etc., this is where they fall flat in London and NYC. NYC is considering changing its laws though, but it will be a slow process.
 

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