America - Has it right!

Discussion in 'The Intelligence Cell' started by Pillager, May 30, 2006.

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  1. I appreciate that hoodlums in the UK are not as frequently armed as they are over the water, but Im certain that if a mugger in the Uk got killed or wounded then the victim would be before a court to answer for his actions (and probably have top pay the injured party for loss of potential earnings!)

    I dont agree with aspects of American culture but things like this make me realise how fu<ked about this country is geting!
  2. Moral of the story: You should never tangle with the Jocks.

    Or the Jills.
  3. In the UK, this happens:
  4. Indeed, this is a problem our country needs to address soon. Too much crap about protecting the rights of criminals rather than the victims themselves and it knocks me sick when the PC brigade are out in full force enforcing their equal human rights bullshit. America has indeed got this spot on.
  5. Agreed Pillager.

    Was just having a discussion on this same subject a few minutes ago. Had that been the UK, the victim would have had waited a couple years for the legal wrangle of perpetrators' human rights, for them to state that they only attacked the man out of desperation so that they don't return 'home', asylum status details, interference from some senior official from Home Office and so on to be sorted out first, before one wise judge puts the boot in to direct a jury to acquit the man.

    Both outcomes for the victim and his attackers bloody excellent.
  6. The guy did right!
  7. Kicked the shotgun out of the guy's hands. Good for him. What was the deceased--a female--doing ganging up on this guy while she was pregnant? Darwin at work.
  8. A marine? What was he doing using a knife. We've all seen Con-Air, should have given them some of that palm in the face jive.

    Seriously though, good on him. He was lucky it didn't end up with him getting killed if there was a shotgun knocking about the place.
  9. effiing g good job.. i love ehearing stories of stone age thugs getting a battering
  10. Full details:

    Former Marine kills would-be robber
    Woman, armed men attack waiter walking home

    The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
    Published on: 05/30/06

    A former Marine who police say killed a woman that attacked him during a gang robbery attempt told reporters Tuesday he acted only to save his life.

    "My first instinct was to run," said former Cpl. Thomas Autry, 36. "Those kids were younger than me. They caught me and cornered me. It was about life preservation."

    "I'm sorry this whole thing happened. I hate this world has gotten to the point where it is predatory," said a shaken Autry.

    The pack of would-be robbers, including a 17-year-old woman, might have mistaken the tall, thin, waiter for an easy mark, said police. But, the bandits picked the wrong victim, said Atlanta police homicide Detective Danny Stephens. The former Marine, cornered by his pursuers on Penn Avenue at 4th Street, fought back with a pocket knife in a deadly melee that left the young woman dead and a man in his late teens seriously injured at a hospital.

    Autry suffered minor injuries, including a cut to his hand.

    The woman, identified as Amy Martin, had just had a birthday May 10, said Investigator Mark Gilbeau with the Fulton County Medical Examiner's Office. An autopsy was expected to be completed Tuesday. "Cause of death will be stab wounds, but we don't know how many yet," Gilbeau said.

    Early reports were that Martin was pregnant, but the autopsy concluded otherwise, said the Fulton Medical Examiner's Office.

    The teenager lived in an apartment at 3000 Stone Hogan Connector in southwest Atlanta, south of Greenbriar Mall near East Point, Gilbeau said. A young man also stabbed in the robbery attempt remained in critical condition, he added.

    The identities of the surviving suspects, who Stephens said are believed to be linked to "a lot" of pedestrian robberies in Midtown and Virginia-Highland, were not released. They face aggravated assault and robbery charges, police said.

    Autry will not be charged, Stephens said. "It was a clear case of self defense."

    Stephens said Autry had left his job at the Jocks & Jills restaurant in Midtown and was walking along Penn Avenue when a blue Cadillac pulled alongside and three men, one armed with a shotgun, and the woman jumped from the car.

    "This group had robbed two men on Piedmont earlier Monday night, taking a video camera and a cellphone," Stephens said.

    "Autry takes off running, and they chase him. During the chase, Autry's trying to get into his backpack to get a pocket knife, which slows him down," Stephens said.

    During the chase, Autry repeatedly yelled "fire, fire," which Stephens said attracted nearby residents' attention.

    Grabbing the knife from his backpack, Autry managed to kick the shotgun from the man's hands and stabbed the woman in the chest, fatally wounding her. Stephens said. In the melee, Autry also stabbed one of the male suspects. Another suspect attempted to shoot Autry with a .380 pistol, which misfired, Stephens said.

    The suspects ran back to the Cadillac and drove to Atlanta Medical Center, where police arrested them.

    Autry, honorably discharged in 1992 after serving in Operation Desert Storm in Saudi Arabia, spoke to a gaggle of reporters from the porch of his apartment about six block north of the King Center in downtown Atlanta.

    Autry recounted the attack, saying he first realize something was amiss when he saw a white cat scurry across the road. That's when he turned around and saw the armed attackers getting out of a stopped car.

    He said his military training kicked in, but "what really helped me was growing up in New York."

    He said he changed his locks after the incident because of security concerns.

    When told that many in the metro area consider him a hero for his actions, Autry disagreed.

    "The heroes are those guys out there fighting for us every day and not getting respect," he said, referring to military personnel fighting in Iraq and elsewhere. "That [killing the attacker] wasn't admirable, it was fight or flight and I tried the flight."
  11. Well done that man!

    Those scum won't be attempting to rob anyone else anytime soon.
  12. Trip_Wire

    Trip_Wire RIP

    Well done Marine! Keep up the good work! :twisted:
  13. Well done to the ex Marine Cpl, i think we should have more of that on this side of the pond!
  14. That guy needs to be commended for his action.
    Good work.

    Bet you his name was Casey Ryback.

    This may be what he looks like, not 100% sure :eek:

  15. The Jarheads are very particular about the use of the phrase 'Ex-Marine'. If honorably separated, they are still Marines, just not serving. They will accept Former Marines to make life easier. Ex-Marine basically means someone who was drummed out of the Corps.