America — Why I love it! (John Wayne)

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#3
Looks like an interesting place to take a holiday!
 
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Somehow I cannot imagine anyone giving the same treatment to the United Kingdom without being lynched!

The only experience I have of watching nationalist propaganda of that sort is that of old Black and White films from the 1940s made by the Ministry of Information extolling the population to fight the Nazis and what a better system was democracy over fascist totalitarianism.

I cannot believe that any educated and intelligent American would be influenced by such a film.

A love of one's country lies within each and every person - Does it actually need to be placed there by such a blatant use of visual propaganda?
 
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Iolis said:
Somehow I cannot imagine anyone giving the same treatment to the United Kingdom without being lynched!

The only experience I have of watching nationalist propaganda of that sort is that of old Black and White films from the 1940s made by the Ministry of Information extolling the population to fight the Nazis and what a better system was democracy over fascist totalitarianism.

I cannot believe that any educated and intelligent American would be influenced by such a film.

A love of one's country lies within each and every person - Does it actually need to be placed there by such a blatant use of visual propaganda?
I didn't actually bother watching the whole thing (I agree, annoying nationalist dribble), but the visuals seemed primarily to be of the valleys, deserts, forests, coasts, mountains, and rivers. It was the background noise that made it unwatchable
 
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Hi Chief,

Nice to hear from you again.

America is attractive in the sense that is has such a wide diversity of nature: from deserts to swamps.

We just get rain!

All the very best to you.

Regards and best wishes
 
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I'm glad you all enjoyed that! :)~
 
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CheekieNorthernMonkie said:
Iolis said:
Looks like an interesting place to take a holiday!
Yeah, in a Ruskie nucular bomber lol!!!





I suggest that you read a little WW II history and try to remember who saved your Country's ass! The next time you run down your best best friends in this world ... cnut!

HooAh!
 
#13
With all due respect, I think you should remember who's forum you're on
 
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Chief_Joseph said:
Iolis said:
Somehow I cannot imagine anyone giving the same treatment to the United Kingdom without being lynched!

The only experience I have of watching nationalist propaganda of that sort is that of old Black and White films from the 1940s made by the Ministry of Information extolling the population to fight the Nazis and what a better system was democracy over fascist totalitarianism.

I cannot believe that any educated and intelligent American would be influenced by such a film.

A love of one's country lies within each and every person - Does it actually need to be placed there by such a blatant use of visual propaganda?
I didn't actually bother watching the whole thing (I agree, annoying nationalist dribble), but the visuals seemed primarily to be of the valleys, deserts, forests, coasts, mountains, and rivers. It was the background noise that made it unwatchable
Whats the matter "Chief" John Wayne kill off to many "Native Americans," in his Cavalry movies for ya? Are you one of those Blanket Reservation Indians (Opps!) "Native Americans," that wants to rewrite history? Don't like the battle the way Brevet Major General George Armstrong Custer's battle at his last stand with the 7th Regiment, US Cavalry was written into history? TS!

I agree, the Native Americans throughout our history, got the short end of the stick; however, some of it was the fault of your own leaders and their miscalulations. Don't take out your personal "Native American," agenda and/or personal problems on the Country. "Visual propaganda?" Talking about the Cavalry ... what a load of horse manure "Chief!"

Having served with the 7th Cavalry, 1st Cavalry Division, I was proud of their history in the "Indian Wars, " as well as my time in the 5th Cavalry, 1st Cavalry Division. The 7th U. S. Cavalry is/was and still is a proud Regiment in the U. S. Army, with a proud history in the "Indian Wars," doing their mission then and in the present in GWOT in Iraq. "Garry Owen!"

I thought John Wayne's narration of the pictures shown, was VERY good! Actually, this is part of a CD that has other segments on America. To me John Wayne, was a good American, who loved this Country and did his best to support it any way he could. His voice on such a CD is a good example of a Western American's voice and IMHO enhances the CD.

Ours is a IMHO, is a GREAT Country, and I don't give a damn, what some liberal Brit, whos not dry behind the ears yet, might think he knows about this great Country. Most of the critics of our Country on arrse, don't really know squat, about this Country and have never been in this Country. One of the reasons, that I posted this .wav file was the pictures of our beautiful Country, was because I thought they were pretty good examples of our beautiful Country to share with our distant cousins. I guess I was wrong in some cases.

I guess some Brits don't seem to fathom, how we feel/treat our flag and other patriotic feelings, that Americans seem to have and Brits, as well as most Europeans don't have. I don't understand that, however; I, can forgive their ignorance, but I can't understand, an American who doesn't get it. I guess it take all kinds ... Huh "Chief."

It seems to me that we've had to come over to help save their ass, in two World Wars with Money, Equipement and bodies

GARRY OWEN! HooAH!
 
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Trip_Wire said:
I suggest that you read a little WW II history and try to remember who saved your Country's ass! The next time you run down your best best friends in this world ...

We will always be indebted to the 20 million dead of the USSR who saved Europe.

Last year we finally paid of our financial debt to the US for the equipment they supplied in WW2. They did not save us, they ripped us off.
 
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Trip-wire, you dont play well with other do you?

Lighten up mate. You were in the military right, take the cr@p and move on. Getting stroppy isnt going to get you anywhere!
 
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Trip_Wire said:
Chief_Joseph said:
Iolis said:
Somehow I cannot imagine anyone giving the same treatment to the United Kingdom without being lynched!

The only experience I have of watching nationalist propaganda of that sort is that of old Black and White films from the 1940s made by the Ministry of Information extolling the population to fight the Nazis and what a better system was democracy over fascist totalitarianism.

I cannot believe that any educated and intelligent American would be influenced by such a film.

A love of one's country lies within each and every person - Does it actually need to be placed there by such a blatant use of visual propaganda?
I didn't actually bother watching the whole thing (I agree, annoying nationalist dribble), but the visuals seemed primarily to be of the valleys, deserts, forests, coasts, mountains, and rivers. It was the background noise that made it unwatchable
Whats the matter "Chief" John Wayne kill off to many "Native Americans," in his Cavalry movies for ya? Are you one of those Blanket Reservation Indians (Opps!) "Native Americans," that wants to rewrite history? Don't like the battle the way Custor's battle at his last stand with the 7th Regiment, US Cavalry was written into history? TS!

I agree, the Native Americans throughout our history, got the short end of the stick; however, some of it was the fault of your own leaders and their miscalulations. Don't take out your personal "Native American," agenda and/or personal problems on the Country. "Visual propaganda?" Talking about the Cavalry ... what a load of horse manure "Chief!"

Having served with the 7th Cavalry, 1st Cavalry Division, I was proud of their history in the "Indian Wars, " as well as my time in the 5th Cavalry, 1st Cavalry Division. The 7th U. S. Cavalry is/was and still is a proud Regiment in the U. S. Army, with a proud history in the "Indian Wars," doing their mission then and in the present in GWOT in Iraq. "Garry Owen!"

I thought John Wayne's narration of the pictures shown, was VERY good! Actually, this is part of a CD that has other segments on America. To me John Wayne, was a good American, who loved this Country and did his best to support it any way he could. His voice on such a CD is a good example of a Western American's voice and IMHO enhances the CD.

Ours is a IMHO, is a GREAT Country, and I don't give a damn, what some liberal Brit, whos not dry behind the ears yet, might think he knows about this great Country. Most of the critics of our Country on arrse, don't really know squat, about this Country and have never been in this Country. One of the reasons, that I posted this .wav file was the pictures of our beautiful Country, was because I thought they were pretty good examples of our beautiful Country to share with our distant cousins. I guess I was wrong in some cases.

I guess some Brits don't seem to fathom, how we feel/treat our flag and other patriotic feelings, that Americans seem to have and Brits, as well as most Europeans don't have. I don't understand that, however; I, can forgive their ignorance, but I can't understand, an American who doesn't get it. I guess it take all kinds ... Huh "Chief."

It seems to me that we've had to come over to help save their ass, in two World Wars with Money, Equipement and bodies

GARRY OWEN! HooAH!
Uhhh... mmmkay. I'm not Native American, and I was actually simply pointing out that this is a British forum, and as Americans, we should realize that we are guests here.

And to in regards to both you AND smallbore, America needed Britain, Britain needed America, USSR needed them both, both needed the USSR. WWII was won by the sacrifice of millions of brave Brits, Yanks, Chinese, Russians, Poles, Canadians, Indians, Austraulians, New Zealanders, Slavs, Norwegians, and scores of others. We are indebted to each and every one of those who fought to defeat fascism regardless of the flag they fought under.
 
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Fine, I'll bite.

Trip_Wire said:
Whats the matter "Chief" John Wayne kill off to many "Native Americans," in his Cavalry movies for ya? Are you one of those Blanket Reservation Indians (Opps!) "Native Americans," that wants to rewrite history? Don't like the battle the way Custor's battle at his last stand with the 7th Regiment, US Cavalry was written into history? TS!

Ours is a IMHO, is a GREAT Country, and I don't give a damn, what some liberal Brit, whos not dry behind the ears yet, might think he knows about this great Country. Most of the critics of our Country on arrse, don't really know squat, about this Country and have never been in this Country. One of the reasons, that I posted this .wav file was the pictures of our beautiful Country, was because I thought they were pretty good examples of our beautiful Country to share with our distant cousins. I guess I was wrong in some cases.

I guess some Brits don't seem to fathom, how we feel/treat our flag and other patriotic feelings, that Americans seem to have and Brits, as well as most Europeans don't have. I don't understand that, however; I, can forgive their ignorance, but I can't understand, an American who doesn't get it. I guess it take all kinds ... Huh "Chief."

Trip_Wire, I actually thought those were beautiful images and I do miss a lot of the vast and varied scenery.

Yes, the voiceover is schmaltzy. But if saying so is "unpatriotic," well fcuk me, I'm glad you're not the head of Homeland Security. :roll:

And can I suggest that you've chosen the wrong website to try to re-educate your friends in NATO about how to be patriotic? Unless you're just trolling, which seems likely, considering someone who supposedly reveres 7th Cavalry history can't spell "Custer" correctly.
 
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That's actually exactly what I said earlier. Look, I like John Wayne (in a sort of "come on man, ya gotta love the Duke" sort of way), but the voice-over and music, it was a bit much for me.
 
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smallbore said:
Trip_Wire said:
I suggest that you read a little WW II history and try to remember who saved your Country's ass! The next time you run down your best best friends in this world ...

We will always be indebted to the 20 million dead of the USSR who saved Europe.

Last year we finally paid of our financial debt to the US for the equipment they supplied in WW2. They did not save us, they ripped us off.
LOL... Do you really think that they saved your butts? What a joke! You might have been behind the "Iron Curtain" too, had they come there instead of us for your protection and the invasion of France.

Yes, the USSR did keep Hitler's minions busy; however, who the hell, do you think were supplying money, equipment, food and support to the USSR? The Good all USA, thats who! Without our aid and the mistakes of Hitler, the Germans would have whipped their butts! Think they could have won on there own? Think again.

One other factor was that had the Germans treated the USSR populace better, during the inital invasion, instead of turning the SS on them and killing and burning their homes, etc., most of them would have been glad to be liberated from Stalin! Of course, Hitler not paying attention to what his Generals told him, didn't help either.

As it was over 60, 000 Russians served in the Wafen SS. I understand, there were even some Brit's that served in the SS, listed in the website listed below. (Last one.)

http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/waffen-ss.htm

http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/waffen-ss.htm

http://www.mikekemble.com/ww2/britnazi.html
 

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