Am I Morally Obliged To Look At Site Adverts?

#1
Brought about by the Shouty Ads thread, and not directed at Arrse in particular as other sites do their own enforcement of this practice, I just wondered if I'm in a minority.

Not that it makes any difference, because I filter ads via a proxy server, but it all gets very chicken and egg regarding the site=members vs the members=site argument.

I maintain that by participating in a site with my posts - useful or otherwise - I'm fulfilling my obligation to the site owner. They are free to adopt whatever means they choose to generate funds to pay for the site, and I am equally at liberty to view the site however I see fit even if it means not viewing ads.

If your phone company decided to route 24/7 marketing calls to your phone unless you paid them £50 a year, what would be your reaction?
 

Alsacien

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#2
If you want to access the site without ads you can do so for a moderate fee.
Otherwise accept that like most things in life there is no free lunch, and the bigger the site, the higher the running costs.
 

Auld-Yin

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#3
As 'morals' and 'Arrse members' are mutually incompatible and would not normally be seen in the same sentence or forum even, the answer to your question is 'No'.
 
#4
a way to beat this is to ask if it's a women what colour their panties are & are the moist!
most will call you a perv & hang up & these companies will probably not ring back!

if it's my mobile i just tell them to feck off as it's a duty one and will report them to ofcom etc, that does the trick!
 
#5
a way to beat this is to ask if it's a women what colour their panties are & are the moist!
most will call you a perv & hang up & these companies will probably not ring back!
Just as long as you don't cause her any "distress"...
 
B

bokkatankie

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#6
Brought about by the Shouty Ads thread, and not directed at Arrse in particular as other sites do their own enforcement of this practice, I just wondered if I'm in a minority.

Not that it makes any difference, because I filter ads via a proxy server, but it all gets very chicken and egg regarding the site=members vs the members=site argument.

I maintain that by participating in a site with my posts - useful or otherwise - I'm fulfilling my obligation to the site owner. They are free to adopt whatever means they choose to generate funds to pay for the site, and I am equally at liberty to view the site however I see fit even if it means not viewing ads.

If your phone company decided to route 24/7 marketing calls to your phone unless you paid them £50 a year, what would be your reaction?
And the site owners are at liberty to take it down if it is costing them money, it is not a charity site and there are costs associated with running it. Don't like it; pay to get add free or do the shitty thing and get an ad blocker.
 
Z

Zarathustra

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#7
Since the shouty ads have appeared I've sarted using adblock plus, which is (for those who don't know) a free Firefox add-on.
 
#8
Not only are you obliged to look at the ads, you're obliged to, errm, entertain one of the ladies from MatureDating.com on a regular basis.

The CO's get extra commission if you trap one of the ugly ones.
 
#10
Not only are you obliged to look at the ads, you're obliged to, errm, entertain one of the ladies from MatureDating.com on a regular basis.

The CO's get extra commission if you trap one of the ugly ones.
Ok, I get an older woman to shag the shite out of, the Big Bad Bosses don't get angry and turn everything in to stars again, where's the downside?
 
#11
It's your choice to block the ads but don't forget that you can still help the site generate income by using the links on the site to access Amazon, Ebay etc and it doesn't cost you anything.
 
#14
Good CO's Aston Martin doesn't run on air, you know.
I hope whoever Good CO is, he's got a bit more style than that. Heh. Aston Martin. Made in Gaydon. For chavs.

Seriously, I'd pay for ad-free ARRSE, but only with a Text or a Voucher. It's all been gone through before. Apparently such means cost too much to run? I reckon that losing a percentage of something and keeping the rest is better than getting diddly, and folk using adblockers.
 
#16
Brought about by the Shouty Ads thread, and not directed at Arrse in particular as other sites do their own enforcement of this practice, I just wondered if I'm in a minority.

Not that it makes any difference, because I filter ads via a proxy server, but it all gets very chicken and egg regarding the site=members vs the members=site argument.

I maintain that by participating in a site with my posts - useful or otherwise - I'm fulfilling my obligation to the site owner. They are free to adopt whatever means they choose to generate funds to pay for the site, and I am equally at liberty to view the site however I see fit even if it means not viewing ads.

If your phone company decided to route 24/7 marketing calls to your phone unless you paid them £50 a year, what would be your reaction?

I think you make an excellent point and I actually agree that by posting on the site you are making an active and very useful contribution (well in most cases!). As one of the site owners I'm very grateful for you doing so, as there is nothing sadder than a dead forum.

I also agree that you are at liberty to browse the site in any way you want and if you choose to use an adblocker then of course that is your choice. There are measures we could take that would make this a less pleasurable experience and you'll note that we don't. I hope you've also seen that we offer the ad-free version of ARRSE to anyone who wants it free of charge.

My only request is that when people make these decisions they make them with a complete understanding of what they are doing. We hope that people do enjoy the site, appreciate the effort that we put into it and feel that they want to contribute. There are loads of different ways this can be done including:


  • Registering a user
  • Making a post
  • Reading the newsletter
  • Write a wiki article
  • Clicking on an ad
  • Downloading the iPhone/Android app
  • Donating


Seriously, I'd pay for ad-free ARRSE, but only with a Text or a Voucher. It's all been gone through before. Apparently such means cost too much to run? I reckon that losing a percentage of something and keeping the rest is better than getting diddly, and folk using adblockers.
You know that you don't have to use paypal? You can do it with any normal credit card?
 
#17
Brought about by the Shouty Ads thread, and not directed at Arrse in particular as other sites do their own enforcement of this practice, I just wondered if I'm in a minority.

Not that it makes any difference, because I filter ads via a proxy server, but it all gets very chicken and egg regarding the site=members vs the members=site argument.

I maintain that by participating in a site with my posts - useful or otherwise - I'm fulfilling my obligation to the site owner. They are free to adopt whatever means they choose to generate funds to pay for the site, and I am equally at liberty to view the site however I see fit even if it means not viewing ads.

If your phone company decided to route 24/7 marketing calls to your phone unless you paid them £50 a year, what would be your reaction?
You're not morally obliged, but given the site requires revenue to exist, you're shooting yourself in the foot somewhat by using it without ads.
 
#19
Not with PERSEC intact.
It's done through an API so the only information we get is your ARRSE username, email address (which we've already got) and whatever name you choose to give paypal. This latter item doesn't have to be your real name and a number of ARRSE users make donations using a nom de plume.

We do not get any information about your credit card or personal address as these are kept by Paypal - obviously they need them to charge the card.
 
#20
Any chance of culling the flashy "congratulations you've just won" type ads or get them written by someone with tourettes to add a touch of humour to them?

****, they're annoying.
 

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