Am I alone in thinking John Lennon was an over-rated, hypocritical, adulterous twat?

#1
Or was he really as good as his admirers claim he is, i.e. the new messiah sadly cut down in his prime?
I am not really sure what to make of him. A man who says "imagine no possessions"
really should not have more money than Midas, more homes than Barratts and more fricking cars than Evans Halshaw.

Tam
 
#3
Or was he really as good as his admirers claim he is, i.e. the new messiah sadly cut down in his prime?
I am not really sure what to make of him. A man who says "imagine no possessions"
really should not have more money than Midas, more homes than Barratts and more fricking cars than Evans Halshaw.

Tam
At least he died in his prime, unlike my best mates Bono and Sting.
 
#4
He had talent but he didn't play well with others after Yoko came on the scene. Paul particularly was not a fan of Yoko and was pissed off when John started dragging her to the sessions for Let It Be (the album) After the break up of the Beatles he (Lennon) had some good tunes, but not with Yoko.
 
#5
Not only that, the cnut should be remembered as the forerunner of twats like Bono who live like kings while telling everyone else to kick in and help supply tin-pot African dictators with new mercs and ammo re-sups.
 
#6
While I never liked Lennon or his Music, I wish Hinckleys aim was off enough to slot Yoko.

The world would have been better off. I was listening to a football game when Howard Cosell broke in to announce the news.
 
#7
In the building outside which he was shot, this working-class hero had two apartments. One to live in, one to keep his and his missus' fur coats in climate-controlled conditions. Can't really stand his music either. Whilst Lennon was drivelling his spiritual/lefty cak, the Stones were singing about alcohol and naked women, which was much preferable.

He was essentially a particularly wanky middle-class art student who never grew up.
 
#8
Oh, and don't forget he was a scouser as well.........
 
#10
While I never liked Lennon or his Music, I wish Hinckleys aim was off enough to slot Yoko.

The world would have been better off. I was listening to a football game when Howard Cosell broke in to announce the news.
Not wishing to sound too pedantic but, who the hell is Hinckley? Mark Chapman shot Lennon, did Hinckley shoot some one else? I'm not 'up' on my assassins unfortunately.
 
#12
John Lennon gave the IRA money. I believe that makes him a cunt, irrespective of what else he has done.
 
#14
Lennon never gave money to the IRA and he never asked people to donate to Third World causes. He campaigned for peace and particularly for an end to the Vietnam war. His best writing was with McCartney or, as already stated, without Yoko Ono who, if she was his muse, wasn't a particularly good one. He never preached poverty and he never let his money distance himself from his fellow man. There are well documented incidences where he has helped and befriended people who have strayed into his life and onto his property and he generally treated people with respect, hence stopping to sign Mark Chapman's album cover.
It seems that if you're rich and famous you're a fair target for any jealous twat to pop up and either have a pop figuratively or literally. Bono and Geldoff live in luxury but still exhort you to part with your cash, Lennon generally dug far deeper into his own pockets than either of those two twats ever did.


Oh, and he loved my Auntie Nora's treacle toffee which his Aunt used to buy for him from her sweet shop.
 
#15
He and his mucker Macka were rip off artists copying soul and R&B from over the pond - it was because they were crap musicians that couldn't mimic the songs they created their own sound. Hype followed hype and thee group became as big as the media wanted them.
 
#17
Whether he dod or not, he certainly marched in Ulster carrying a banner saying "FOR THE IRA AGAINST BRITISH IMPERIALISM", thus displaying a combination of historical ignorance and political naivete which I find both deplorable and completely unsurprising.
Plus his "If it’s a choice between the IRA and the British Army, I’m with the IRA.”

Still who actually cares anymore - dead and mostly forgotten.
 
#18
Whether he dod or not, he certainly marched in Ulster carrying a banner saying "FOR THE IRA AGAINST BRITISH IMPERIALISM", thus displaying a combination of historical ignorance and political naivete which I find both deplorable and completely unsurprising.
He was incensed by the events of Bloody Sunday which he saw primarily as an attack on civil rights marchers. He did show a bias towards the Irish Republican movement and, you're right, that showed a political naiveté probably caused by taking too simplistic a view of the problem, influenced by his Irish background.
I have always maintained that popular (as opposed to protest) songwriters should steer clear of politics but, that having been said, everyone is entitled to his own beliefs.
 
#19
John Lennon gave the IRA money. I believe that makes him a cunt, irrespective of what else he has done.
Spot on, he was an utter utter cahnt for that and probably several other things he did. I've said before, it's all a matter of taste and I for one wouldn't begin to have a blanket hatred of him for that. Musically though? Probably second to none (apart from Lena Zavaroni that is.. that goes without saying)
Just how far can this argument go? As far as a sectarian quibble some 400 years old at least (or so)
You either love or hate him politically and possibly love or hate him musically but it wont change anybodys mind discussing it here.
Anyway, I feel a bit naughty because you know what I did? I-tunes call it " Woman is the N****r of the world" but I changed the title in my I-tunes library to what it really is!! No Duff!! The words are shite but one of, if not, his best.
 
#20
He and his mucker Macka were rip off artists copying soul and R&B from over the pond - it was because they were crap musicians that couldn't mimic the songs they created their own sound. Hype followed hype and thee group became as big as the media wanted them.
You wont be liking Elvis either then?
A bit of fame and you can roll any old tosh out ie Macca made "Give Ireland back to the Irish" and it got banned so he does "Mary had a little lamb" as a follow up protest song. How many Numpties bought that?
 

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