Alternate History

#1
All,

Im off on holiday for a few weeks and Im loading up the kindle(anything to stop me from actually having to have a conversation with the missus).

Im looking at getting into my alternate history, historical 'What Ifs'. Can anyone reccomend some good reads along these lines?

Thanks
 
#2
Well apart from SS-GB, I recently read The Afrika Reich by Guy Saville, which was entertaining.

It's about mercenaries in Africa, the leader being called Burton Cole (named after Sir Richard Francis Burton, the explorer. not the actor) doing a job against the SS.

After Dunkirk, Britain sues for peace with Germany. Africa is carved up between Germany, Britain, Vichey France, and Portugal.
The Nazis start their racial genocide to Black Africans, with Madagascar becoming the home to all the Jews.
Set in 1952, Burton is ex-BEF and now a mercenary who is called to do one more job, killing a high profile SS officer who is linked to Burtons past before the war when he was a child.

It looks like it will carry on as well.

It's not a bad read.
 
#3
Harry Turtledove is your man for that, he's done quite a lot of alternate history books covering the American civil war, WW 1 and WW2. His books are heavily character driven and focus a bit too much on politics, oh, and US of A are always the good guys as per usual but it sounds like what you're looking for.
 
#4
not sure if it'd be your thing but Tim Powers "Declare" is a good cold war spy thriller which uses real people (kim philby & lawrence of arabia for exmple) along with places, dates and events that are all true but creates a story around these where the cold war is actually a magical battle involving SOE and djinn. rise (and fall) of the soviet union is directly connected to powerful djinn allied to mother russia.

its bonkers but very well written and feels more like a conventional spy thriller than anything else.
 
#5
Fatherland - Robert Harriss, Europe after the war that Germany won.
 
#6
1000 years of annoying the French. Good book and funny too.
 
#7
And All The Kings Men,by Gordon Stevens.

Germans invading the UK,and the british resistance,great read with a good twist at the end.
 
#8
1000 years of annoying the French. Good book and funny too.
Not bad, picked it up on impulse and glad I did. Turtledove is sometimes good, but the series tend to drag and be a bit predictable.

There's plenty out there in this genre as Google will sho including more than a few webites with reviews of books. Some are well done often and fairly plausible written by historians and/or wargamers, others not worth using as bog paper.

Edit: A start
Amazon.com: Alternative History Military History Books

List of alternate history fiction - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 

Soggy4978

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#9
Triumff: Her Majesty's Hero by Dan Abnett is well worth a look.
 

napier

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#12
The Foresight War By Anthony Williams
 
#13
What about factual 'what-ifs' rather than novel types? As in the type where the author takes a single incident and changes one detail of it and gives an opinion on how history would have changed.
 

maguire

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#14
john birmingham, the axis of time trilogy - about a 21st century fleet that gets thrown back in time to the middle of the second world war. not brilliant, but an intriguing premise and no worse than turtledove.

unscrupulous types could find free downloads of birmingham and turtledove here - Designated Targets (The Axis of Time Trilogy, Book 2) free ebook download - but you didnt hear that from me, ok?
 
#15
Fatherland was good and the HBO movie was as well.

I've read both of Birmingham's series. The 3 parter with a US/NATO/ANZAC task force sent back to Midway. Once you get past the name of the carrier the USS Hilary Clinton and the who the 22nd SAS Sabre Sqn OC is not bad. The new series After America after two books is showing promise. The street fighting in NYC between Nigerian Pitates Jihadists and what's left of the US Army is well done.
 

Auld-Yin

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#16
Disaster at D-Day by Peter Tsouras

What happens if the Germans won the Battle of Normandy and stop the Allied invasion.

By slightly changing some of the events, but sticking very much to actual facts, Tsouras has Rommel winning.

It can be confusing reading about a battle which one knows has gone a certain way and yet Tsouras changes it in such a way that you find yourself saying "Yes, that could work".

Worth a go.
 
#17
Disaster at D-Day by Peter Tsouras

What happens if the Germans won the Battle of Normandy and stop the Allied invasion.

By slightly changing some of the events, but sticking very much to actual facts, Tsouras has Rommel winning.

It can be confusing reading about a battle which one knows has gone a certain way and yet Tsouras changes it in such a way that you find yourself saying "Yes, that could work".

Worth a go.
Sounds appealing but the book is not yet in a kindle edition.
 

Joker62

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#18
#19
Disaster at D-Day, Peter Tsouras, is quite good. Although not alternate history as such, two books by Erik Durschmied; The Hinge Factor, and The Weather Factor examine how chance, stupidity, and the weather have influenced events in the military sphere. Well worth a read.

Edited to add, curses! Beaten by Auld Yin!
 
#20
"THE MOSCOW OPTION" by David Downing

Hitler is put into a coma by a plane crash in August 1941. Without his meddling Moscow falls, Malta is captured, the 8th Army is driven out of Egypt, Turkey comes into the war on the side of the Axis powers. The Japanese win the battle of Midway by pure luck -- the same way the Americans won it in our time line -- and then bomb San Diego and Hollywood. All the prints of the new film 'Casablanca' are destroyed and the Japanese declare war on Russia and capture Vladivostock. They get no further: against a Western army fighting in Western conditions the Japanese army is useless; Russian T-34's cut them to shreds.

With Rommel driving into Palestine and Guderian's panzers rolling through Iran towards Baghdad the British play their last desperate card and ask the RAF to join in the war. Bomber Command squadrons are sent to the Mid-East: their heavy bombs cause continual avalanches of rocks and boulders onto the Rasht-Qazvin road in the Safid Rud river valley. Guderian's blitz loses its bluster in the Kurdish mountains. Meanwhile the hastily landed US 1st Armored division helps to crush Rommel two miles outside Jerusalem. And, at Panama, the Japanese carrier force is shattered by land based aviation and US aircraft flying from carriers in the Atlantic: now the US Navy can really call itself a two ocean navy!

Hitler has fully recovered and takes full control of the German war effort again.
 

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