Allocation of Light Role Bns to Deployable Fmns

#1
Headline news for those of us wondering the roles of the light role infantry:

o 2 SCOTS (Edinburgh – Glencorse Bks – from April 2006) – 4 Mech Bde
o 5 SCOTS/ 1 R IRISH / 2 RGR– 12 Mech Bde (2½ yrs in 12 Bde, 2½ yrs in 52 Bde, 5 yrsin 16 Bde by rotation)
o 2 YORKS (Preston – Weeton – from August 2007) – 20 Armd Bde
o 1 WELSH (Chester – The Dale – from September 2008) – 1 Mech Bde
o 3 RIFLES (Edinburgh – Redford Bks – current location) – 7 Armd Bde
 
#3
Sounds thoroughly daft to me. I thought that this was supposed to end the old 2 year arms plot.

Either leave them in the role to which they have been assigned, and let them all crack on with inter-divisional/inter-regimental postings, or let them be in one role so that the army can have a bit of expertise to call on without screwing around a few thousand boys every 2-3 years by moving them and their families.
 
#4
frankie said:
Sounds thoroughly daft to me. I thought that this was supposed to end the old 2 year arms plot.

Either leave them in the role to which they have been assigned, and let them all crack on with inter-divisional/inter-regimental postings, or let them be in one role so that the army can have a bit of expertise to call on without screwing around a few thousand boys every 2-3 years by moving them and their families.

its a singlies army well it should be and moving around is good for young lads i say let them move around but try do it in summer hols to let the pads sort there lives out
 
#5
So much for the demise of the arms plot. What will be the role of 1SCOTS stationed in Dreghorn?
Will each Bn in Scotland, including, presumably, The Rifles, be subjected to Public Duties at Ballater?
 
#6
What's happening to the We Flog Rockets? Any word on how the Belfast Bn in 19 Light will work/rotate?

dpm
 
#8
Busterdog said:
So much for the demise of the arms plot. What will be the role of 1SCOTS stationed in Dreghorn?
Will each Bn in Scotland, including, presumably, The Rifles, be subjected to Public Duties at Ballater?
Its nothing to do with Arms plotting. It is about affiliation with a fmn, which they are not at the present. I understood 1 SCOTS would be in 19 Light Bde.

DPM said:
What's happening to the We Flog Rockets? Any word on how the Belfast Bn in 19 Light will work/rotate?
Not sure about the rotation nor about the how 19 Bde will work (yet).

Fred Karno said:
Can I just ask where you got this from? I've heard something different.
Army Briefing Note, but since its RESTRICTED I can't put much else on here...
 
#10
The_Chancellor said:
Weeton is a long way fm Germany

Out of sight...out of MS mind.
Weeton! the best posting in UK! and you can see blackpool tower from the bn square. thumbing home from here in 1983 i was home 3 hours after leaving camp.
 
#11
As an aside, the Yorkshire Regiment website suggests that 1YORKS 2YORKS and 2LANCS will rotate between Osnabruck, Weeton and Cyprus on a 5-5-2½ year rotation
 
#12
Cyberhacker said:
As an aside, the Yorkshire Regiment website suggests that 1YORKS 2YORKS and 2LANCS will rotate between Osnabruck, Weeton and Cyprus on a 5-5-2½ year rotation
Now this doesn't sound entirely right as that would suggest that they would be re-roling (AI and Light Role), which FIS is due to discontinue. Moving, yes, re-roling no. Odd.
 
#13
barbs said:
Cyberhacker said:
As an aside, the Yorkshire Regiment website suggests that 1YORKS 2YORKS and 2LANCS will rotate between Osnabruck, Weeton and Cyprus on a 5-5-2½ year rotation
Now this doesn't sound entirely right as that would suggest that they would be re-roling (AI and Light Role), which FIS is due to discontinue. Moving, yes, re-roling no. Odd.
I should have added that the Osnabruck battalion was listed as LIGHT ROLE too :?:

Someone who knows more than me might have the answer :?
 
#14
What the hell is an Armd Bde supposed to do with a light role battalion?

Sounds suspiciously like they need people to stag on-
 
#15
Just for reference, my source is here.
After this drawdown is complete the roles and locations that the King's Division will have are to be as follows:

1 YORKS Light Role in Catterick. To move to Osnabruck in Germany in Oct 2008
2 YORKS Light Role in Chepstow moving to Weeton in Lancashire in 2007
3 YORKS Armoured Infantry in Warminster, Wiltshire

1 LANCS Mechanised Role in Osnabruck, Germany. To move to Catterick in Oct 2008
2 LANCS Armoured Infantry in Catterick. To Cyprus in Sep 2008 and convert to Light Role.

Once in their final locations 1 LANCS and 3 YORKS will be fixed deploying only for operational tours and training exercises. It is expected that the three battalions in the Light Role, 1 and 2 YORKS and 1 LANCS, will continue to change locations on a 12 year cycle with 5 year tours in Germany and Weeton being separated by a 2.5 year tour in Cyprus. This will be termed Refreshing rather than Arms Plotting as no change of role, and therefore retraining, will be required.
(my emphasis)

Mind you, this is obviously not a misprint, as The Royal Anglicans are also moving to Germany in the Light Role
 
#17
Interesting that 1 Yorks are moving to Osnabruck in 2008. 4 Bde are moving from Osnabruck to Catterick 2008. Will 1 Yorks be attached to 7 or 20 Bde or are they going to be doing something completley different ?
 
#18
Does anyone know what the actual role og the light bns in the armd/mech brigades will be?

At the moment we have mixed light/mech in iraq, and did have in the balkans, but these were temp peacekeeping arrangements?

please feel free to correct me.
 
#19
As with most operations you will never have enough combat power: at the tedious end of the spectrum they will ensure freedom of manoeuvre in your rear areas and processing of PWs, whilst at the more interesting end they will allow you to maoeuvre and fight in complex terrain where your armour can't always go (moutains, forests, urban). Given the more complex nature of modern warfare (no more enemy armoured divisions sticking their hands up to be blasted by cruise missiles/MLRS etc), I suspect they will offer an necessary capability to any war fighting brigade.
 

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