After reading all the posts on various boards, it would seem that you have absolutely no chance of getting in unless you can pass a BFT (or whatever they call it), do a couple of hundred situps/pressups/chinups/squats or whatever. How come it was never like that for us lot? We had some real fat ******* in my intake and I'd never run more than 400 yards for a bus, let alone several miles. We were always told the PTIs would get us fit and I don't recall having to pass any of these fitness tests. Yeah, we had PT in basic, we had squats and indoor football and basketball etc but going for a run? No chance. In fact, I even remember our young 2Lt getting a bollocking from the CSM after he'd made up walk (well, march but more of a walk) 5 miles back to camp as we were doing the passing out parade in a couple of days and he didn't want us getting blisters. Mind you, nobody used to run in them days. Jogging hadn't been invented and we used to think those odd few who did go out running were, well, odd, if you know what I mean. I know that when they did bring the BFT in it improved the fitness of the Army megafold, but we still had desk wallahs who get in their cars to go from one end of camp to the other. I don't think the BFT was compulsory for the first year or two. Prior to that, the 10 mile bash was an attendance thing. If you failed, I can't remember anyone having to do retake the test. Mind you, this was the REME at first followed by R Signals so I can imagine it was rather different for the combat arms. I also remember a girl telling me, back in 88, that she had been refused to be allowed to sign up in the Int Corps because she'd failed her BFT. This really would be "running for your life" as she was very intelligent and would have pissed through any other type of exam. Did you lot have all these fitness (not medical, obviously) tests before you joined up?