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Can my local career office give me information about my asthma situation about being cleared of sport induced asthma but being perscribed my last inhaler last year or is it just for signing on
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Policy is 4 years clear of an incident or prescription.

Non negotiable.
 
I know this website isn't always taken seriously by it's members, but I am very worried right know and I just want a clear answer. When I was 14 I had a tough time at school. I got involved in the crowd and it ended with me getting picked on pretty bad. I felt like I couldn't do anything at school so when I came home I would take it out on my mum and sister. I wouldn't hurt them or anything, but I would never show signs of happiness and I would
occasionally shout at them things I wish I could take back. At the time my mum was obviously distressed and so she spoke to a child psychologist who after 3 meetings with me diagnosed me with having low aspergers and low ADHD. Now personally I don't believe that it do have it and I was acting based on the situation at school but that doesn't matter. The point is that these conditions are now on my medical record and around the time I turned 15 I shot up to 6ft 1 and any sort of bullying stopped pretty quickly. Now I am 16 and I have alot of friends and perfectly normal social skills. Both my school and parents have reported I am fully normal and I have since had a referral from a psychologist saying all my symptoms have gone; my worry is that any recruiter would see these conditions on my medical records and turn me down. I was on medication for 2 months for the ADHD but was quickly taken off since it had no effect on my. I wanted to be an Ammunition Technician however I'm worried I will now be prohibited from joining because of my medical record. Can I still get in? If they see I'm normal in person will they still let me in? I'm very worried so any answers are appriciated.


Many thanks, Will
 
@willsmith3212

With regards to ADHD the policy is quite simply three years clear of medication & symptoms. You will not get round this. This is for good reason and based on sound clinical evidence.

Not to patronise but you are still a child. Do not be annoyed at this comment as it is actually something positive. My reason for highlighting this is that the majority of childhood ADHD sufferers fully recover from the condition after puberty and entering into adulthood.
The overwhelming odds suggest you will fully overcome the condition, lead a happy and healthy life and join the military by the time you are 18.

Good effort in fighting it & being proactive in seeking a career. Keep cracking on & remind yourself of what is expected and what will not be tolerated with your behaviour. Remember ADHD doesn’t mean you don’t know right from wrong. So stay on track.
Use this time to develop your skills of self-discipline.

As this all unfolded two years ago it is a tad too recent at the moment. At least you’ve got youth on your side. The Army isn’t going anywhere so no need to rush.

As for the Aspergers- JSP950 states that Asperger's may be considered following a Psychiatry report on level of social functioning.

Chin up & keep moving forward.
 
I'm sorry for bein a nag u can rip into me and call me everything's u can think of if u want. Not saying that u want to.
Do u think I would be able to appeal
you will get told go away and reapply at the appropriate time
 
eyesight standards are fairly low already, drop them much further and Mr Magoo could pass them
Not necessarily. Some particular jobs have a much higher requirement.
Nope. Pure bollocks.
Pure conjecture.
it comes around every couple of years, the (new user) poster claims a 'mate' who has something to do with army medicine says rules on (insert medical condition here) are going to be relaxed (insert vague time scale here)
And to be fair, some rules have been relaxed in recent years, most notably a few in the months before the updated edition of JSP950 was posted two years ago.
 
Nope- still bollocks. Same boring rumour that goes around year after year.

Here you go.

ON ENTRY - SOLDIER
Household Cavalry:
AFV Crewman/Mounted Duty Man - R 8/2, L 8/6
RA:
All - R 7/2, L 7/3

RE:
ME (Heating & Plumbing) - R 8/3, L 8/6
ME (Surveyor Engineering) - R 8/3, L 8/6
ME (Draughtsman{all}) - R 8/3, L 8/6
ME (Building & Structural Finisher) - R 8/3, L 8/6
ME (Electrician) - R 8/3, L 8/6
ME (Geographical Technician) - R 7/2, L 7/3
ME (Construction Materials Technician) - R 7/2, L 7/3
ME (Fitter General) - R 7/2, L 7/3
ME (Air Con & Refrigeration) - R 8/3, L 8/6
ME (C3S) - R 7/2, L 7/3
ME (Plant Operator Mechanic) - R 7/2, L 7/3
ME (Driver) - R 7/2, L 7/3
ME (Resources Specialist) - R 7/2, L 7/3
ME (Armoured) - R 7/2, L 7/3
ME (Combat) - R 8/3, L 8/6
ME (Bricklayer & Concreter) - R 8/3, L 8/6
ME (Carpenter & Joiner) - R 8/3, L 8/6
ME (Fabricator) - R 8/3, L 8/6

R Signals:
Systems Engineer Technician - R 8/3, L 8/6
Installation Technician - R 8/3, L 8/6
Information Systems Engineer - R 8/3, L 8/6
Communication Systems Operator - R 7/2, L 7/3
EW Systems Operator - R 7/2, L 7/3
Driver Lineman - R 7/2, L 7/3
Technical Supply Specialist - R 7/2, L 7/3
Electrician - R 7/2, L 7/3

Foot Guards:
All - R 8/3, L 8/6

Infantry (Including Para**):
All - R 8/3, L 8/6

Brigade of Gurkhas:
All - R 8/3, L 8/6

UKSF
(a) Badged Ranks - R 3/1, L 3/1, (b) Attached Ranks - R 8/3, L 8/6


Air Dispatcher - R 5/2, L 5/2
Mariner - R 3/1, L 3/1
Marine Engineer - R 7/1, L 7/6
Port Operator - R 7/2, L 7/3
Driver - R 7/2, L 7/3
Driver (Comms Specialist) - R 7/2, L 7/3
Postal & Courier Operator - R 7/2, L 7/3
Logistic Specialist (Supply) - R 7/2, L 7/3
Movement Controller - R 7/2, L 7/3
Ammunition Technician - R 7/2, L 7/3
Petroleum Operator - R 7/2, L 7/3
Railway Operator - R 1/1, L 6/3
Pioneer - R 8/3, L 8/6
Chef - R 8/3, L 8/6

RAMC:
All - R 8/3, L 8/6

REME:
Vehicle Mechanic - R 7/2, L 7/3
Armourer - R 7/2, L 7/6
Metal Smith - R 7/2, L 7/6
Technician Electronics - R 7/2, L 7/6
Technician Aircraft - R 7/2, L 7/6
Technician Avionics- R 7/2, L 7/6
Shipwright - R 7/2, L 7/6
Technical Storeman - R 7/2, L 7/6
Recovery Mechanic - R 7/2, L 7/3

AGC:
RMP - R 8/3, L 8/6
MPS - R 8/3, L 8/6
MPGS - R 8/3, L 8/6
SPS - R 8/3, L 8/6
 
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Not necessarily. Some particular jobs have a much higher requirement.

Pure conjecture.

And to be fair, some rules have been relaxed in recent years, most notably a few in the months before the updated edition of JSP950 was posted two years ago.

I've heard that eyesight standards are about to be relaxed about 20 times over the past 29 years it hasn't happened that I've noticed, and many roles have quite low standards, notably left eye generally can be much lower than the right for obvious reasons.

It took a fair while before any laser eye surgery was acceptable, and now it's with fairly tight restrictions. Things do change, but I've yet to find one that has changed and was announced via an anonymous "mate who is something to do with army medicine"

other rumoured standards that are going to drop (any time since I joined in 1989) included loss of limbs, hearing standards, loss of eyesight, asthma, mental health/suicide attempts and so on.

One of my favourite rumours that went around was the RAMC (although it changes sometimes) had allegedly accepted an amputee who was eventually kicked out of training for breaking his false leg in a drunken incident and as it wasn't insured he couldn't afford a new one, and as it wasn't a service related incident the MoD wouldn't buy one.
 
@willsmith3212

With regards to ADHD the policy is quite simply three years clear of medication & symptoms. You will not get round this. This is for good reason and based on sound clinical evidence.

Not to patronise but you are still a child. Do not be annoyed at this comment as it is actually something positive. My reason for highlighting this is that the majority of childhood ADHD sufferers fully recover from the condition after puberty and entering into adulthood.
The overwhelming odds suggest you will fully overcome the condition, lead a happy and healthy life and join the military by the time you are 18.

Good effort in fighting it & being proactive in seeking a career. Keep cracking on & remind yourself of what is expected and what will not be tolerated with your behaviour. Remember ADHD doesn’t mean you don’t know right from wrong. So stay on track.
Use this time to develop your skills of self-discipline.

As this all unfolded two years ago it is a tad too recent at the moment. At least you’ve got youth on your side. The Army isn’t going anywhere so no need to rush.

As for the Aspergers- JSP950 states that Asperger's may be considered following a Psychiatry report on level of social functioning.

Chin up & keep moving forward.
Thank you so much, I've been worried all week lol
 
Thank you so much, I've been worried all week lol
Well don’t.

Candidates with ADHD, uncomplicated by violence or criminality, absent for more than three years without treatment won’t have any issues.

Just focus on not being a little sh*t, don’t let your urge to be hyperactive and your impulsivity rule your actions.

Remember- do not let the pink and fluffy brigade wrap you in cotton wool. ADHD may be an explanation as to why you act up. It does not however, not provide an excuse.

Phys is a really positive and efficient way to reduce hyperactivity and inattention from ADHD. If you feel a wobble in
your mood get your trainers on and run. Running can relieve stress, boost your mood, and calm your mind.

You’ll be fine.
 
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Well don’t.

Candidates with ADHD, uncomplicated by violence or criminality, absent for more than three years without treatment won’t have any issues.

Just focus on not being a little sh*t, don’t let your urge to be hyperactive and your impulsivity rule your actions.

Remember- do not let the pink and fluffy brigade wrap you in cotton wool. ADHD may be an explanation as to why you act up. It does not however, not provide an excuse.

Phys is a really positive and efficient way to reduce hyperactivity and inattention from ADHD. If you feel a wobble in
your mood get your trainers on and run. Running can relieve stress, boost your mood, and calm your mind.

You’ll be fine.
@willsmith3212

As a teacher who has often worked with kids diagnosed with ADHD I would back this up. Definitely support the idea of phys and would suggest more specifically try picking up something that requires discipline, teamwork and responsibility.

Team sports like rugby or hockey are excellent but I am also a big fan of martial arts or boxing. Martial arts have a strong emphasis on self-discipline and respect for yourself, others and environment. To practice martial arts you need to be a good, reliable and safe person for others to practice with. This encourages self-control and discipline because the safety of others is dependent on you. In Judo/karate etc. you need to work with other people to practice moves and to be able to trust others and be trusted. The structure, hierarchy and etiquette of martial arts is also a good introduction (in some ways) to the sorts of things that military life expects of you as well.

Also, it could help train your ability to focus and listen as instructors are not going to repeat themselves 6 times in different ways like a school teacher might and if you don't listen then you are a danger to others and yourself.
 
So... good news and bad news RE level 1B appeal.

Good news - the medical officer is willing to "give me the benefit of the doubt" with regards to the whole uncertainly of whether or not I had dyspepsia. (Yay).

Bad news. He's flagged that in 2017 I saw a locum because I had a cough I couldn't shift who said "here! have an inhaler!" (same old story) so now I'm deferred for 4 years and would have to start all over again. Also I had a couple of UTIs (NOT STI before someone tries to say I've caught something) which he is "concerned" over so has asked for renal testing to confirm my kidneys are back to standard.

Advice please ARRSE-ers. I'm running low on appeals now - 1 left! Do I pay to see a respiratory specialist, have him review the notes in an attempt that he'll say it wasn't a confirmed asthma diagnosis and the inhaler was a silly suggestion, get a renal test and give it one final go... Or do I simply wait 4 years ...?
 
It would be in your interest to obtain a detailed letter from your doctor explaining that you have no prior history of asthma and no need for repeat prescriptions for inhalers.

If the inhaler was prescribed as a one off for an upper respiratory tract infection and not asthma then you might be ok.

The four year clear is normally applied if there is a repeat history of prescribed inhalers.

First step is get back to your GP & get a letter. If possible ask about taking a respiratory function test.
 
Got a message on my portal, instant PMU due to going to the doctors about back pain 6 years ago, no issues since and I even passed selection for the royal marines and spent 6 months in training with no issues. And they wonder why they struggle to recruit!
 
Got a message on my portal, instant PMU due to going to the doctors about back pain 6 years ago, no issues since and I even passed selection for the royal marines and spent 6 months in training with no issues. And they wonder why they struggle to recruit!
Why are you answering a question nobody asked?

If you have professional medical evidence that proves your glass back won’t break & you do not suffer from a condition that bars entry then appeal.
 
Why are you answering a question nobody asked?

If you have professional medical evidence that proves your glass back won’t break & you do not suffer from a condition that bars entry then appeal.
Not answering anything, merely putting my experiences of the army's recruitment process. I'm going to but it's a complete waste of time for me and the army. As I've said from January i was in Royal Marines training for 6 months so It's a little bit of a joke how I was passed fit for that yet the army have swiped me off the list without looking into my record any further.
 
Not answering anything, merely putting my experiences of the army's recruitment process. I'm going to but it's a complete waste of time for me and the army. As I've said from January i was in Royal Marines training for 6 months so It's a little bit of a joke how I was passed fit for that yet the army have swiped me off the list without looking into my record any further.
I’ll tell you what’s an even bigger waste of time.Disputing the standards because you think it's not fair.

Whether or not you slipped through a net and tried & failed to become a bootneck is irrelevant. If you had the minerals to get your green lid you’d have your green lid. So shouting about making it to week 25 is pointless.

Something in your medical records has flagged that suggests that you’ve suffered from a back problem that:
1) Prompted you to visit a doctor in the first place.

2) Is concerning enough to grade you medically unsuitable.

What you would be better putting your energy into would be to compling evidence through sound clinical facts that you are six years clear of the issue, there is absolutely no ongoing treament, you've had no issues in RM training (expect giving up) and you have never suffered with recurrent back pain.

Imagine failing the medical suitability for not reaching standards outlined- the cheek of them.
 

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