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I'll graduate from medical school in July. Keen to do some reservist work. Only problem is that I had anorexia for ~1 year at 13. I've been had a clean bill of health for over a decade now though.

I know I'll likely get at an s8 at the stage of applying but does anyone have any insight into my appeal success odds?
 
I'll graduate from medical school in July. Keen to do some reservist work. Only problem is that I had anorexia for ~1 year at 13. I've been had a clean bill of health for over a decade now though.

I know I'll likely get at an s8 at the stage of applying but does anyone have any insight into my appeal success odds?
what would you be appealing against?
You apparently don't fit the criteria for entry, therefore you are going to try and overturn the system recording eating disorders as a refusal for entry - don't forget this is evidence based.
Good luck with that one
 
Thanks @Medic_Cop22 for your response. I'll visit the GP and see if I can clarify that I am condition free and have not received treatment for x years.

Thanks@theoriginalphantom for your responses. I suppose the grounds for my appeal would be that this was a condition that hasn't affected me for over a decade.
 
Why are you posting the exact same question in another thread?

Anyway,

As it stands it would seem very unlikely that you would be passed fit to enter the Armed Forces.

However you can most certainly produce evidence in support of your medical suitability for service prior to attending a medical if wish.

Bare in mind that certain conditions have a bar on service for very sound clinical reasons. No matter how much you lament- unless you can dispute & prove incorrect diagnosis, then the medical standards for entry are not open to negotiation.
The more information you can provide from the outset when attending the medical examination, the quicker the decision, but in order to manage realistic expectations, it would be wrong to raise false hopes.
I would suggest @The_Duke advice of appealing may be waste of everyone's time, mainly yours.

Moving forward, Am I correct in assuming that you have yet to embark on your two-year foundation programme? Assuming this is the case then you are about to combine live work experience with training. During the foundation years you will move around different specialties. One third of the way through the second year you will be asked to make a choice about which specialty training you would like to embark on in later years. You will have plently of opportunity to find your calling as cliche as it seems.

Look as commendable as it is to have ambitions to join the RAMC I would suggest your plate is a little full at present. Joining the army as a Doctor does involve making a commitment to at least three years’ service on attaining your commission. Your first job as a qualified doctor will be exhilarating and nerve racking no matter where you end up so stay positive.

Surely you can appreciate from a health care perspective why a history of Anorexia Nervosa prevents entry to the military?
Lets not beat around the bush here @JoeBloggs95. It is a psychological illness with devastating physical consequences no matter how long ago it was. A history of anorexia can drastically effect the heart, liver, and kidneys. In fact, many individuals who struggle with anorexia may present with heart failure or cardiovascular complications. This just isn't a risk the Army would want to take.
 
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Thanks @Medic_Cop22 for your response. I'll visit the GP and see if I can clarify that I am condition free and have not received treatment for x years.

Thanks@theoriginalphantom for your responses. I suppose the grounds for my appeal would be that this was a condition that hasn't affected me for over a decade.
so the appeal is basically 'go on, change the rules for just me cos it was a while ago and so far it's not happened again even though there is considerable medical evidence that I run the risk of a relapse'
 
so the appeal is basically 'go on, change the rules for just me cos it was a while ago and so far it's not happened again even though there is considerable medical evidence that I run the risk of a relapse'


Sadly many do not realise that the entry medical standards cannot be appealed against. They aren’t in place to be awkward or to be bent for case by case appeals.

Conditions that preclude entry are in place for good reason based of clinical evidence.

All too often bods appeal because they simply don't agree with the medical standards and fail to understand they are non-negotiable.

If he is determined to fit a square peg into a round hole then his best bet is submit adequate, relevant and well documented supporting evidence that confirms why he feels the standards do not apply to him.
It will save a lot of wasted time and angst. It is a big ask to request the military to deviate or accept risk. See my post above re why a history of anorexia is a straight up bar.

As debilitating as discovering you are permanently medically unsuitable for service is, it’s not the end of the world & one must always keep perspective.

I wish him well.
 
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I rang again this morning spoke to my CSM, he said there is a lot of stuff to go through but thanked me for attending assessment? I haven't even been to assessment yet, he must have a huge workload or literally cant be bothered my real name ain't even able to be confused its not a smith jones or brown. :D It is with the med team now I was told last week it would be classed as a priority due to the length of time I have been waiting nearly 10 months. Is there any way I can change my CSM as I don't think he enjoys it and he could potentially do more by speaking to the medical admin. This length of time cannot be the norm surely.
 
A civvie on 18k a year, in an understaffed office with a high workload?

Of course he doesn’t give a f*ck.


The capacity to accept or tolerate delay, problems without becoming annoyed or anxious is a key skill you’ll need but 10 months is ridiculously long.

Instead of calling, email. Start to create that audit trial. Sounds hollow but it’ll all work out eventually.

Cc in email ARTD-RG-HQBusinessAssurance@mod.uk
 
I rang again this morning spoke to my CSM, he said there is a lot of stuff to go through but thanked me for attending assessment? I haven't even been to assessment yet, he must have a huge workload or literally cant be bothered my real name ain't even able to be confused its not a smith jones or brown. :D It is with the med team now I was told last week it would be classed as a priority due to the length of time I have been waiting nearly 10 months. Is there any way I can change my CSM as I don't think he enjoys it and he could potentially do more by speaking to the medical admin. This length of time cannot be the norm surely.
Don't worry, your CSM will change several times as they all eventually quit their low paid, totally unappreicated jobs while the work load increases daily
 
A civvie on 18k a year, in an understaffed office with a high workload?

Of course he doesn’t give a f*ck.


The capacity to accept or tolerate delay, problems without becoming annoyed or anxious is a key skill you’ll need but 10 months is ridiculously long.

Instead of calling, email. Start to create that audit trial. Sounds hollow but it’ll all work out eventually.

Cc in email ARTD-RG-HQBusinessAssurance@mod.uk
Thanks ill CC you in at some point today just for a basic follow up to the people I spoke to last week.
 
Hi, got a question that might need specialist knowledge to answer.

I'm hoping to re-enlist before I'm too old (currently 31 years and 9 months old), however I'm HIV positive. Thanks to the treatment I have received my viral load has been undetectable for several years now. Neither the treatment nor condition affect my health or fitness and I lead a normal life.

Is there any way I can re-enlist? Is there a specific role I could do? Would my condition be wavered if I apply for a "priority role"?

It's the age-old predicament of not fitting back into civ div, I belong in the Forces and need to get back in!
 
Hi, got a question that might need specialist knowledge to answer.

I'm hoping to re-enlist before I'm too old (currently 31 years and 9 months old), however I'm HIV positive. Thanks to the treatment I have received my viral load has been undetectable for several years now. Neither the treatment nor condition affect my health or fitness and I lead a normal life.

Is there any way I can re-enlist? Is there a specific role I could do? Would my condition be wavered if I apply for a "priority role"?

It's the age-old predicament of not fitting back into civ div, I belong in the Forces and need to get back in!
nope

Human Immunodeficiency Virus (HIV). A candidate known to be HIV seropositive is graded P8, irrespective of their current treatment, viral load and CD4 count.
 
Hi, got a question that might need specialist knowledge to answer.

I'm hoping to re-enlist before I'm too old (currently 31 years and 9 months old), however I'm HIV positive. Thanks to the treatment I have received my viral load has been undetectable for several years now. Neither the treatment nor condition affect my health or fitness and I lead a normal life.

Is there any way I can re-enlist? Is there a specific role I could do? Would my condition be wavered if I apply for a "priority role"?

It's the age-old predicament of not fitting back into civ div, I belong in the Forces and need to get back in!
Hi,

Very sorry to hear that. Not an easy road to travel I’m sure.

I’m sorry to say that it is a No. You will be unable to re join, regardless of your treatment and viral load. This is completely non negotiable.

In relation to your struggle with re adjusting to civilian life coupled with your health you may find it helpful to talk to a trained counsellor or psychologist, or someone at a specialist helpline. Your HIV clinic will have information about these.


Chin up lad.
 
@Medic_Cop22 @theoriginalphantom Hello use seem to be in the know which makes me think you have worked in the processes I am dealing with. Is there a way due to my application being as long as it has been. To ask if I could be requested to have my medical documents looked at as they received FME for the 3rd time last week the same one I had already sent previous. To ask to be put in a priority pile so to speak. I was told that it can happen by a recruitment event in my hometown, but how do I go about it.
 
@Medic_Cop22 @theoriginalphantom Hello use seem to be in the know which makes me think you have worked in the processes I am dealing with. Is there a way due to my application being as long as it has been. To ask if I could be requested to have my medical documents looked at as they received FME for the 3rd time last week the same one I had already sent previous. To ask to be put in a priority pile so to speak. I was told that it can happen by a recruitment event in my hometown, but how do I go about it.
no idea about that, however recruitment teams "don't always represent the truth"
 
Candidates can make a complaint against the handling of the recruitment process, by emailing
ARTD-RG-HQBusinessAssurance@mod.gov.uk

Unfortunately, moaning about a situation like this on arrse rarely gets seen by those who can actually improve it.

Like I said previously, if you feel you are screaming into the abyss then email and start an audit trail. Emails are easy evidence to see how often you are chasing this delay in a nice chronological order.

Also why not consider writing a letter to your local AFCO to place your experiences on record. It’s your potential career & you have a right to complain.

Oh and you think this admin is bad, just wait until you actually get in..

Think of it as character building.
 
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