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R Sigs only require CP4 which is the lowest standard of colour perception required - you should be ok.
Do you have a source for that? I'm just short of selection right now and am yet to find any accurate and verifiable information as to what jobs require which colour perception grades. There was a post a few years ago I kept running across but it was just officer requirements for the various cap badges and not specific CP grades for enlisted roles, which I imagine can vary within cap badges.

Recruitment office, NRC HQ, my online CSM have all just passed the buck down the line to the guy who does the interviews at selection so I'm sure he'll be well happy with me when it comes time.
 
Do you have a source for that? I'm just short of selection right now and am yet to find any accurate and verifiable information as to what jobs require which colour perception grades. There was a post a few years ago I kept running across but it was just officer requirements for the various cap badges and not specific CP grades for enlisted roles, which I imagine can vary within cap badges.

Recruitment office, NRC HQ, my online CSM have all just passed the buck down the line to the guy who does the interviews at selection so I'm sure he'll be well happy with me when it comes time.

I'm currently waiting for my date for the assessment but I had to do an eye test at the opticians and then send it off, if you did that and you still got the date for the assessment then surely it would be ok?

but I can be wrong though
 
Do you have a source for that? I'm just short of selection right now and am yet to find any accurate and verifiable information as to what jobs require which colour perception grades. There was a post a few years ago I kept running across but it was just officer requirements for the various cap badges and not specific CP grades for enlisted roles, which I imagine can vary within cap badges.

Recruitment office, NRC HQ, my online CSM have all just passed the buck down the line to the guy who does the interviews at selection so I'm sure he'll be well happy with me when it comes time.
Ive just double checked and RS Engineer is actually CP3 - apologies for the duff info - I was looking at Officer entry standards.

Anyway, what you need to look up is "PULHEEMS Administrative Pamphlet 10" - just google it and then search for Table 2 - its gives a list of all job roles with eyesight requirements.

CP is the last but one column.
 
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I'm currently waiting for my date for the assessment but I had to do an eye test at the opticians and then send it off, if you did that and you still got the date for the assessment then surely it would be ok?

but I can be wrong though
Colour Perception tests are not a normal part of Opticians eye tests - hence CP wont be checked until AC.
 
Ive just double checked and RS Engineer is actually CP3 - apologies for the duff info - I was looking at Officer entry standards.

Anyway, what you need to look up is "PULHEEMS Administrative Pamphlet 10" - just google it and then search for Table 2 - its gives a list of all job roles with eyesight requirements.

CP is the last but one column.
Cheers for that, just checked and I was right in assuming INT CORPS wasn't an option for me due to mild red/green colourblindness (guessing CP3, would pass a lantern test but fail an ishihara). Like I said, recruiter just shrugged his shoulders and said I wouldn't know until after selection but I'm supposed to know my job choices by then so it's a bit of a catch 22. Would have been nice if he (or any of the recruiting staff I've spoken to, online, in person and over the phone) gave me this information since it's apparently publicly available.
 
Cheers for that, just checked and I was right in assuming INT CORPS wasn't an option for me due to mild red/green colourblindness (guessing CP3, would pass a lantern test but fail an ishihara). Like I said, recruiter just shrugged his shoulders and said I wouldn't know until after selection but I'm supposed to know my job choices by then so it's a bit of a catch 22. Would have been nice if he (or any of the recruiting staff I've spoken to, online, in person and over the phone) gave me this information since it's apparently publicly available.
To be fair to everyone you have spoken to, this kind of information isnt readily available to the Recruiters or CSMs, and certainly isnt openly distributed.

Technically they are not allowed to advise on medical issues, so the official line is "apply, and let the medical process take its course".

If you got to selection and failed to reach the CP you needed for the job you wanted, you woudnt be rejected (provided you passed everything else), you would just be told to go back to your ACC for a discussion on the roles that would be available to you.
 
To be fair to everyone you have spoken to, this kind of information isnt readily available within the ACCs or with the CSMs, and certainly isnt openly distributed.

Technically they are not allowed to advise on medical issues, so the official line is "apply, and let the medical process take its course".

If you got to selection and failed to reach the CP you needed for the job you wanted, you woudnt be rejected (provided you passed everything else), you would just be told to go back to your ACC for a discussion on the roles that would be available to you.
Yeah, the whole 'it's classed as medical advice so we can't speak about it' is what I was getting the whole time. I understand it but it's still pretty aggravating to be the guy on the receiving end who's trying to make up his mind about something as moderately important as joining the army. I was already fairly sure OPMI was out of the question due to what I'd read on here years before applying so I was hesitant to put it as any of my choices, let alone my first, but the recruiter said I might as well as I scored well on the practice test and if I can't get it it'd just be a case of my fallbacks.

I might end up going back to the ACC if all goes well to have a look at some of the other choices that I didn't think were a possibility but now apparently are, such as Gunner's UAV operator (unless that form is mistaken or out of date, it looks like all RA roles are available, and that's about as close to flying as I'll get being colourblind). Hopefully I'll have a better choice of start dates for the various roles after selection as well, as I was put off a couple as I read/assumed they were oversubscribed anyway, but might not be the case.
 
Yeah, the whole 'it's classed as medical advice so we can't speak about it' is what I was getting the whole time. I understand it but it's still pretty aggravating to be the guy on the receiving end who's trying to make up his mind about something as moderately important as joining the army. I was already fairly sure OPMI was out of the question due to what I'd read on here years before applying so I was hesitant to put it as any of my choices, let alone my first, but the recruiter said I might as well as I scored well on the practice test and if I can't get it it'd just be a case of my fallbacks.

I might end up going back to the ACC if all goes well to have a look at some of the other choices that I didn't think were a possibility but now apparently are, such as Gunner's UAV operator (unless that form is mistaken or out of date, it looks like all RA roles are available, and that's about as close to flying as I'll get being colourblind). Hopefully I'll have a better choice of start dates for the various roles after selection as well, as I was put off a couple as I read/assumed they were oversubscribed anyway, but might not be the case.
That document is the official guide to PULHEEMS and is referred to in JSP 950 6-7-7 (which is also worth looking at), so will be accurate.

Dont be put off any job choices because you worry they may be oversubscribed, most corps have vacancies in most jobs (RMP and dog handler being the two big exceptions).

If you ask your recruiter in the ACC about start dates & available vacancies he/she will be able to tell you.
 
Slightly worry about eye sight test in army selection my prescription will below which is what i got today at specsavers.

Right +2.5 sph -5.0 cyl 1.0 axis
Left +3.25 sph -7.75 cyl 165.0 axis

Also is a measurement for bvd? Of 12.0.

Would this be cause for concern the primary roles I'd be looking at would be in reme.
 
This has taken longer than i thought, initially they wanted FME. Which was provided twice as they said they had not received it. Now 8 months in they are asking for a confirmation of the drs to say they have sent all my medical records. My life completely changed in the beginning of the year with the aim of joining. From training to picking shifts to work around so I could do the training. Not just cardio days in the hills and so on. For them now to say that want a confirmation sent myself and the drs sent it to them yesterday after i was asked to send it to an email for the medical team at NRC. For me now speak to my CSM for him to say no they now need the confirmation via post. What is the difference from post to email. Life is on hold waiting for this just little thinks like this don't seem necessary anyone elaborate the reasoning.
 
Recently got a medical letter through saying that due to my talipes I'm graded P8L8 which is permanently unfit to enlist. On the back it has information about appealing but I'm wondering can I actually appeal this? As the army rules say that any degree of clubfoot, corrected or not is graded as P8L8. I had surgery within the first year to have it correct and never had an issue since. The lady from the local office said I should appeal it but I'm wondering that if im graded as permanently unfit to enlist then no matter what a doctor/specialist says then surely its always going to be a no?

Has anyone here successfully appealed talipes or know anyone who has?

Thanks
Hi Mate,

I asked a question about this a while back. The only thing I can really help you with is the permanently medically unfit. The term is to say that pending any new information, the forces are assuming that you currently have a condition that will affect your ability to undertake training, that has not been corrected/cured. The appeal is to essentially say "the condition is 'GONE and will NEVER COME BACK' - says this doctor, who has assessed me" that's what they want to hear. So keep that in mind.

Anecdotally speaking I have come across some who claim to have gotten into the navy/army having had talipes, completely corrected/cured on forums here and there. Additionally, the ex PARAs, RAF PTIs and Army medics I have in the family all say the same thing - They need to know you can function without risking injury or decreased performance, due to your condition. That's it and that's all. Regardless.

Take it with a pinch of salt, but just some words of encouragement. I'm waiting to find out if I can get in, took me a while to post the appeal.
 
Hello im sorry if this in is the wrong place. I'm a novice.

I'm looking for help on behalf of my son. He suffered a minor fracture to his back almost 2 years ago when playing rugby.

His consultant said all was good and he would make a complete recovery no surgery needed.
He did and has not had any issues.

He applied for the Royal marines in January and was rejected due to this fracture. He appealed with the support of his consultant however, the appeal was rejected and they said the civi doctor didnt know what the role would entail.

He subsequently applied for the army as it doesnt state a fracture to the back is a no useless surgery was involved. He has just been rejected. Has anyone ever been accepted with a previous back fracture / wedge?

What can we do to help him become successful?

Any help / advice would be greatfully accepted we only have 29 days to put this appeal together.
 
Hello im sorry if this in is the wrong place. I'm a novice.

I'm looking for help on behalf of my son. He suffered a minor fracture to his back almost 2 years ago when playing rugby.

His consultant said all was good and he would make a complete recovery no surgery needed.
He did and has not had any issues.

He applied for the Royal marines in January and was rejected due to this fracture. He appealed with the support of his consultant however, the appeal was rejected and they said the civi doctor didnt know what the role would entail.

He subsequently applied for the army as it doesnt state a fracture to the back is a no useless surgery was involved. He has just been rejected. Has anyone ever been accepted with a previous back fracture / wedge?

What can we do to help him become successful?

Any help / advice would be greatfully accepted we only have 29 days to put this appeal together.
depends on the type of fracture

Spinal fracture. Candidates with any history of spinal fracture (including wedge fractures of the vertebral body but excluding resolved spinous and transverse process fractures) are to be graded P8L8
 
Within the JSP 950 in mentions a few times that a grading may be regraded after a functional assessment, has anyone had experience of this? Do they refuse you and then you appeal and they offer you an assessment, or do you get the offer to sit the assessment before a grading decision is made.
Thanks
 
Hi ,
I’m currently in the process of joining the army , I’ve recebtly sent my medical forms in and called them up a couple days ago and said they sent a letter out to me. I’ve read that a lot of people receive rejection through letters, does that mean I’m going to be rejected.
 
Quite possibly but not necessarily, is there anything in your medical history that might be a bar to service such as anxiety/depression/other mental health issues, childhood or on going asthma, surgery within the last couple of years or anything else?
 

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