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Finally got word back - have passed my medical appeal. Didn’t think it would happen to be honest it was taking so long ! Just waiting for an assessment date now which proving the physical medical exam doesn’t cause more issues should be okay !
 
Sadly failed my medical today. I haven't received my letter detailing what the failure was for but I suspect it will either be an old knee injury or ear infection.

If so I plan to get the medical issue solved before appealing or re-applying which could take some time. Does anyone know if there is a time limit to appealing. And if I do not appeal soon enough would I be permanently barred from entry or could I just start a whole new application in a years time, for instance?

Thanks
My appeal process has taken just under a year - so you would have plenty of time to get everything in order, I would wait for the letter for details and then like everyone says just get as much evidence/ back up documents and then buckle in for a long ride ! You have to keep chasing too or nothing seems to happen - will be worth it in the end though !
 
Sadly failed my medical today. I haven't received my letter detailing what the failure was for but I suspect it will either be an old knee injury or ear infection.

If so I plan to get the medical issue solved before appealing or re-applying which could take some time. Does anyone know if there is a time limit to appealing. And if I do not appeal soon enough would I be permanently barred from entry or could I just start a whole new application in a years time, for instance?

Thanks
Letter says to let them know within 30 days if you're appealing, although I believe that's just to state your intention and doesn't require actual evidence in that letter. Not sure what happens after 30 days if you try to appeal.
 
Hello all,

Medical forms sent off today for Reserves application - a few things that I'm concerned will warrant a rejection or deferral, and which the JSP950 doesn't really speak to:

1) Hip anthroscopy for labral repair, March 2017. The main concern. It's a keyhole surgery to repair torn cartilage in the hip joint (a bit like a knee meniscectomy). Fully recovered by July 2017 (with surgeon letter stating this). JSP950 only refers to current symptoms (which I don't have), or hip disease or fixation (which I didn't / don't have). It doesn't make any reference to this injury or procedure.

2) Prolapsed / slipped disc, 2011. Responded to physio after a few sessions, no symptoms since then. The episode didn't last more than 12 weeks, but it is (I guess?) "mechanical" - the JSP950 doesn't say what happens if it's below 12 weeks but mechanical.

3) Knee pain, June / July 2016. Went to physio for pain / clicking in my knee. Wasn't diagnosed with anything specific - just did some strengthening and stretching exercises and it resolved after a few sessions. JSP950 only mentions current symptoms and other specific diagnoses.

For fitness context, I'm 23, cycle 80km a week, run 3x a week and completing the 1.5 miler in 8:15, weight training 2-3x a week (heavy squats / deadlifts) and have been doing the pre-recruit PT at my local Reserves unit for a couple of months. Submitted a 5 week training diary that I've been keeping for a half marathon in September just to show I'm active and fully recovered from the above.

Thoughts on pass / defer / fail likelihood? Anyone else been through the process with similar issues?

Cheers
 
Hello all,

Medical forms sent off today for Reserves application - a few things that I'm concerned will warrant a rejection or deferral, and which the JSP950 doesn't really speak to:

1) Hip anthroscopy for labral repair, March 2017. The main concern. It's a keyhole surgery to repair torn cartilage in the hip joint (a bit like a knee meniscectomy). Fully recovered by July 2017 (with surgeon letter stating this). JSP950 only refers to current symptoms (which I don't have), or hip disease or fixation (which I didn't / don't have). It doesn't make any reference to this injury or procedure.

2) Prolapsed / slipped disc, 2011. Responded to physio after a few sessions, no symptoms since then. The episode didn't last more than 12 weeks, but it is (I guess?) "mechanical" - the JSP950 doesn't say what happens if it's below 12 weeks but mechanical.

3) Knee pain, June / July 2016. Went to physio for pain / clicking in my knee. Wasn't diagnosed with anything specific - just did some strengthening and stretching exercises and it resolved after a few sessions. JSP950 only mentions current symptoms and other specific diagnoses.

For fitness context, I'm 23, cycle 80km a week, run 3x a week and completing the 1.5 miler in 8:15, weight training 2-3x a week (heavy squats / deadlifts) and have been doing the pre-recruit PT at my local Reserves unit for a couple of months. Submitted a 5 week training diary that I've been keeping for a half marathon in September just to show I'm active and fully recovered from the above.

Thoughts on pass / defer / fail likelihood? Anyone else been through the process with similar issues?

Cheers
without checking the specifics (and not having sight of the wording of any of the medical records about you) I'd guess initially you'll be looking at a defer, provide further information/fitness diary.
 
without checking the specifics (and not having sight of the wording of any of the medical records about you) I'd guess initially you'll be looking at a defer, provide further information/fitness diary.
Thanks - I worded that in the same way as the GP did in the RGMD, except she didn't give any detail about the hip anthroscopy. It's a relatively new diagnosis and procedure, which I'm aware will probably work against me. Would settle for a defer / fitness diary at the moment!
 
Thanks - I worded that in the same way as the GP did in the RGMD, except she didn't give any detail about the hip anthroscopy. It's a relatively new diagnosis and procedure, which I'm aware will probably work against me. Would settle for a defer / fitness diary at the moment!
I'll have a look at the specifics in the jsp later, this pesky job keeps getting in the way though.
New procedures can cause issues and may take some time to get a decision - initially they are likely to play it safe (for everyone) and defer you.

Take the laser eye surgery as an example, until the long term effects were better known it was a total ban, then certain types were allowed, but with conditions.
 
I'll have a look at the specifics in the jsp later, this pesky job keeps getting in the way though.
New procedures can cause issues and may take some time to get a decision - initially they are likely to play it safe (for everyone) and defer you.

Take the laser eye surgery as an example, until the long term effects were better known it was a total ban, then certain types were allowed, but with conditions.
Yeah that makes sense. It's a relatively simple procedure for a simple problem and there's lots of evidence of good outcomes. I've also heard anecdotally of guys already in the Army having the procedure done and getting back to full duty after 4-6 months - so at least it's not a completely new thing like laser eye surgery was. They ought to already have some opinion on it, even if it's not in the JSP950.
 
Yeah that makes sense. It's a relatively simple procedure for a simple problem and there's lots of evidence of good outcomes. I've also heard anecdotally of guys already in the Army having the procedure done and getting back to full duty after 4-6 months - so at least it's not a completely new thing like laser eye surgery was. They ought to already have some opinion on it, even if it's not in the JSP950.
those already serving come under different rules though, don't take it as proof you'll be accepted
 
My appeal process has taken just under a year - so you would have plenty of time to get everything in order, I would wait for the letter for details and then like everyone says just get as much evidence/ back up documents and then buckle in for a long ride ! You have to keep chasing too or nothing seems to happen - will be worth it in the end though !
Letter says to let them know within 30 days if you're appealing, although I believe that's just to state your intention and doesn't require actual evidence in that letter. Not sure what happens after 30 days if you try to appeal.
The problem is that I believe I will fail either for a knee injury or ear infection. Both of which I do have, but will not affect military service as they cause no pain. However, I understand that the Army wants fit and healthy soldiers so I would like to get them both 'fixed' before appealing. Can I wait, say, a year while I get fixed up by doctors before appealing or should I end my application and re-apply.... can I even re-apply? Or does not appealing mean I'm permanently barred from entry?

Thanks both for your help.
 
The problem is that I believe I will fail either for a knee injury or ear infection. Both of which I do have, but will not affect military service as they cause no pain. However, I understand that the Army wants fit and healthy soldiers so I would like to get them both 'fixed' before appealing. Can I wait, say, a year while I get fixed up by doctors before appealing or should I end my application and re-apply.... can I even re-apply? Or does not appealing mean I'm permanently barred from entry?

Thanks both for your help.
I had applied previously and didn’t appeal because I know not enough time had passed since the issue for it to be worth appeal - this time when I applied it was enough time since the issue for me to appeal so I did - took a while and lots of chasing but I’m moving through to the next bit in August. I would maybe not appeal this one and then re apply and appeal when the injury has been resolved for the adequate amount of time. I don’t think not appealing is an instant ban on applying again in the future.
 
Morning All,
Currently trying to join the Infantry Reserves, I've completed the selection days and passed with a grade A and no problems with the phys and medical. However the RGMD hadn't arrived in time so was only given a conditional pass. The RGMD has since arrived and I've been rejected due to a case of Sciatica in 2015. I know this is an automatic bar to entry, however I was not aware I had been diagnosed with that issue and don't believe that was my issue.
I was examined by a locum doctor following a work accident where I smacked my back on some stairs and crushed my leg under a bath that I was carrying. Obviously the leg was tender so I mentioned it to the doctor along with the back pain and he put down sciatica on my record. I was back at work the following week (Carpenter on building sites, so quite active)with just a big bruise on my upper thigh and a sore lower back.
So long and short of it, my regular GP is reluctant to change the diagnosis due to the length of time, I do however have a report coming from a chiropractor saying everything in his opinion is fine, I'm also getting an appointment with an NHS physio to be checked over, I have wage slips etc showing I only had 4 days off work and absolutely no issues since.
Do I have any hope in my appeal with that limited evidence or am I wasting my and the Army's time??
Sorry for the rambling post
 
The problem is that I believe I will fail either for a knee injury or ear infection. Both of which I do have, but will not affect military service as they cause no pain. However, I understand that the Army wants fit and healthy soldiers so I would like to get them both 'fixed' before appealing. Can I wait, say, a year while I get fixed up by doctors before appealing or should I end my application and re-apply.... can I even re-apply? Or does not appealing mean I'm permanently barred from entry?

Thanks both for your help.
If it's a case of not having any pain I'd look into doing a fitness diary. The army is very careful regarding lower limb injuries, especially knees, because fit and healthy soldiers struggle enough with training and training-induced injuries, nevermind those with pre-existing or proneness to such things. My medical cockup wouldn't be helped with a fitness diary so I don't know much about it but I've read an awful lot of people using them for lower limb injuries from rugby/football (successfully or not is another question) for appeals (either 3 month or 6 months). Obviously with you not having surgery yet, and recovery time, on top of a 3 or 6 month medical diary when you are fit enough, it's going to be several months/years before you're going to be able to appeal, at which point you're going to be looking at just reapplying again but making sure you have everything stowed away ready for when you need to present your proof of fitness.

I do have a followup question regarding my own predicament (childhood eczema, in the clear for 8+ years with no script but still got a medical fail due to it from the screening stage; going down the docs in 2 weeks (nearest appointment they have that I can book in advance) to ask if they think I have grounds to appeal. Sent an email to both my (capita) recuiter and the (capita) medical board at NRC declaring my intention to appeal with no reply, wondering if I'll get shafted if it takes me outside of that 30 days to gather evidence for my appeal and how reapplying might work (if even allowed, my PMU letter didn't have any time frame on it (like a 1-3 year deferral) so am not sure if it's even possible. Very similar questions to Vodapo, actually.
 
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Were discharge letters from hospital presented before?

And an exercise diary seems to be a popular choice.
Yes they had my discharge letter explaining no paraspinal defects were present. But on paper it looked like i had an issue over a two year period when in fact it was two incidences two years apart.
 
Hi All, my lad has just failed selection on a medical issue, small meniscus repair to the knee 4 years ago - 2 years ago he went to selection and was deferred for a year, and asked to complete a 3 month training diary which he did in April last year. He was then told his medical information was out of date. He went back to the GPs and they sent the information again.

On receipt of this he was further deferred for another 3 months.... (the medical notes must have mentioned the meniscus repair, and they blindly deferred)

He then heard nothing - in April this year he received a phone call and was invited to selection.

This he attended, passing his medical and his physical and was offered a place at the interview, but because of the operation it was supposed to be rubber stamped by the SMO.

He has since been told that he has been unsuccessful on medical grounds even though the selection team had all the information and invited him back onto the process.

This has got us all scratching our heads - he has done everything asked of him and his situation has only improved and in no way deteriorated.

They had all the information including exercise diaries, physio letters which showed his fitness levels.

It appear that in material terms he was deferred and he appealed and then was allowed back into the process where he left off, but then was disallowed with no additional information to the negative being apparent.

We are planning to appeal this - any ideas on the best way of tackling this? Not only is it unfair, it seems totally unethical.

Thanks in advance...
 
Hey all, I posted this query in another thread earlier today but given the recent activity on that one dates back to 2014 I'm guessing it's gone pretty quiet! So here goes again...

Had reflux at 17 whilst doing my exams (initially told it was Anxiety and given beta blockers which only made it worse) eventually had tests done (endoscopy and ultra sound) to check it wasn't an ulcer and confirmed reflux. Took Rabeprazole up until around a year ago when I realised that actually I didn't need it and hadn't needed it for a while!

Just had my rejection letter through over the weekend on the grounds of dyspepsia: "no matter how long ago, are unfit for service and should be graded P8"

However, that being said, the chap I deal with at the careers office said that on my portal it's only showing as a deferral not flat out rejection...?

Any thoughts/comments/suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

G x
 
hi guys what's your opinion on this, if something is graded p8 on jsp950, is that pretty much a no or if you are not being treated, on medication or planned meds/treatment and not seeing any specialists ECT, could it move to p2 or deferred for 12 months, ie section (A) in attached
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hi guys what's your opinion on this, if something is graded p8 on jsp950, is that pretty much a no or if you are not being treated, on medication or planned meds/treatment and not seeing any specialists ECT, could it move to p2 or deferred for 12 months, ie section a in attached View attachment 339832
Hey - I hadn't seen this doc before! It looks like if you can control it with lifestyle, no meds required, you should be graded P2! I'm 100% going to appeal on this basis! I had meds years and the prescription is still sat on my record as a repeat - which I haven't needed - So I'm hoping it's as easy as get this removed and get a Drs letter confirming I haven't needed it for X years.
 
Hey - I hadn't seen this doc before! It looks like if you can control it with lifestyle, no meds required, you should be graded P2! I'm 100% going to appeal on this basis! I had meds years and the prescription is still sat on my record as a repeat - which I haven't needed - So I'm hoping it's as easy as get this removed and get a Drs letter confirming I haven't needed it for X years.
did you collect any of your prescription?
 

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