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IceKing

Swinger
Areas that will impact on your ability to wear headdress/helmet, goggles/glasses, respirator, radio headset, hearing protection or prevent the use of a rifle.
Ah - i have quite a bit of scarring from spots and quite a few active spots on my face. None anywhere else though - hopefully this would be fine.
 

Pha111

Crow
I’m due my clinical triage with the army soon!
Everything I am about to say, I am being 100% honest here.

I am on a contraceptive injection which has side affects of anxiety/low mood swings.

My first few years with my body adjusting to this was the hardest. I attended the doctor in hope to find alternatives but they said the pill will do the same. And instead, prescribed me fluoxetine. He said they will calm me down and should improve my mood.



2 years passed.



I went back for the same reason, doctor noticed I was prescribed fluoxetine and within 30 seconds of my appointment, offered these again.



In 2017 was my last time attending the doctors for this reason, as my body and hormones improved. He prescribed these to me one last time.



I looked into them and discovered they were anti depressants. I was never depressed. My hormones caused me to feel low and have bad days. I got up every morning, went to college, went to work, socialised, I was a happy chirpy girl. On all 3 occasions, I never got a repeat prescription and truth be told, only made it through 2 tablets On each occasion as I wasn’t depressed and it was an on day/off day thing.



December 2019, I left an abusive relationship which intact involved the police as I was processing an injunction. Long story short, he used to threaten to kill me and my family and burn my house down. This, obviously, caused me to be uneasy. I went to the doctors asking if there was anything I could do to calm my nerves and they gave me diazepam. I never went back for a repeat medication.



I am concerned that on my call, they will ask if I have ever suffered from depression and anxiety. I’ve never suffered depression nor have I ever been clinically diagnosed as depressed. I was never clinically diagnosed as suffering from anxiety either, the tablets were simply to calm my nerves after receiving death threats.



I understand in the army I will receive many threats - but they will never be personal and never affect me the way my ex boyfriend did.



If asked if I have suffered depression and anxiety, should I say yes or no? Because although I haven’t, the medication may have them disbelieve me.
 

Bob65

Old-Salt
If asked if I have suffered depression and anxiety, should I say yes or no? Because although I haven’t, the medication may have them disbelieve me.
You should be 100% completely honest at all times. Not least because you will be instantly binned if caught out, but mainly because it shows character.

If it states in your medical records that you were prescribed X and you later say that you didn't need it, then it begs the question as to why you went to the doctor presenting symptoms, and why the doctor having examined you prescribed it, and why you then went and filled the prescription. Those are fair questions because they don't know you, all they have is what is written down.

Off the top of my head the Army will want you to be clear of any medication or symptoms for at least a year. Do the call, speak clearly and candidly, and be prepared to be told that. Good luck.
 

S7015642F

Swinger
Hello ladies and gentleman,

Yesterday i was given the all clear on my medical and successfully appealed a rejection that in all took 16 months.

In February 2019 i was rejected after selection centre due to 2 counts of anxiety and sciatica. From here I didn’t decided to write instantly to the army asking them to accept me but i wrote in letter of complaint to my doctors surgery. Reason was my doctor filled out the questionnaire stating i had sciatica. I was never diagnosed with this at any stage and later found the medical centre didn’t want to acknowledge my complaint. From here I wrote to the ICO which was stated i the right to following my complaint.

In September 2019 i had a response informing me there was no case but give me some advice in going on to appealing my medical evidence. I later had a meeting with my general doctor after writing to them with the advice given. Which i had my medical records looked into about the sciatica and it was confirmed there was no evidence documented. For the anxiety they agreed to add an up to date note on them consultations.

In November 2019 i submitted my level 1 appeal by submitting my medical records only. Which in December i was notified that the reasons on sciatica was upheld and that the other part of my appeal was being referred to occupation physician.

In February 2020 i had a new message on my portal stating i will be allowed entry if i can gain 3 character references which I received a template of questions they wanted answering in the post.

About a month ago i emailed my csm asking for an outcome because i had been waiting what felt like a long time. Because of covid I didn’t want to complain but ac explained they tried to get an outcome before Christmas and said there was no excuses as to why this had happened to me. They then sent all my medical notes in the post to NRC and they were reviewed in 48 hours.

I finally passed! Anyway thought I’d share the light news if anyone is thinking of appealing make sure its new information and not old. Also don’t just write to them and say ‘I think you should accept me because I didn’t suffer from X,Y,Z’ its there on your medical records. Your issue is with you doctor not ac.
 

ELM

Crow
Hi,

Just looking for some advice really as to if an appeal is worth it.....

My daughter wants to join the Army in a non combat role however due to some episodes of self-harm, & depression over the past couple of years (last episode 1 year ago) she has had her application rejected. All this happened due to her being bullied at school which the school know about however not at any time was she prescribed any medication and was only referred to CAMHS once where she has a couple of sessions to help her through how she was feeling and there has not been a repeat of any low moods not even since last Friday when she found out that she was graded unfit.

They also mentioned that she has had anxiety and palpitations but when she went to the doctor about these they both realised it was down to my daughters new found taste for Iced Coffee so she has cut back to 1 cup of coffee a day (she is like me and loves the taste).

After reading through this thread, I am thinking about getting a copy of her medical records to see exactly what they say plus possibly getting the doctor and an Occupation Health Therapist to see her and write a new report as since last September there has been no episodes at all and her leaving school early due to covid has really been the making of her however she is now a grumpy teen due to this blip.

Should she wait for a year or so? Will that make any difference?

I know everyone is different however I am just trying to peel back these layers to find some clarity on what might be possible if anything.

Any advise about our next step greatly appreciated.
 
Hi,

Just looking for some advice really as to if an appeal is worth it.....

My daughter wants to join the Army in a non combat role however due to some episodes of self-harm, & depression over the past couple of years (last episode 1 year ago) she has had her application rejected. All this happened due to her being bullied at school which the school know about however not at any time was she prescribed any medication and was only referred to CAMHS once where she has a couple of sessions to help her through how she was feeling and there has not been a repeat of any low moods not even since last Friday when she found out that she was graded unfit.

They also mentioned that she has had anxiety and palpitations but when she went to the doctor about these they both realised it was down to my daughters new found taste for Iced Coffee so she has cut back to 1 cup of coffee a day (she is like me and loves the taste).

After reading through this thread, I am thinking about getting a copy of her medical records to see exactly what they say plus possibly getting the doctor and an Occupation Health Therapist to see her and write a new report as since last September there has been no episodes at all and her leaving school early due to covid has really been the making of her however she is now a grumpy teen due to this blip.

Should she wait for a year or so? Will that make any difference?

I know everyone is different however I am just trying to peel back these layers to find some clarity on what might be possible if anything.

Any advise about our next step greatly appreciated.

there is only one non-combatant role - Padre
 

Bob65

Old-Salt
Any advise about our next step greatly appreciated.
The way this works theoretically is that they have two documents in front of them: the candidate's medical records and JSP950 (the "medical standards"). They read one off against the other and if there's a match the candidate is rejected. The rejection letter should refer to specific paragraphs in JSP950. In order to appeal you must present "new" medical evidence, which means evidence that has not previously been submitted or considered. In order for an appeal to succeed, it must disprove the paragraphs that caused the rejection. If the reason for the rejection is that insufficient time had elapsed since the last occurrence (there are a few like this) then re-applying later is an option. September is not one year ago, by the way.
 
Looking for advice. around 6 years ago when I was 19 I suffered with hypochondria and had a couple months therapy for it because the doctor felt it was bad enough. I haven't had any issues for over 5 - 6 years now and haven't had to be on any medication in those 5 - 6 years either. It says this condition is permanently disqualifying but I was wonderinng if that would actually still be likely the case
 

jarrod248

LE
Gallery Guru
Looking for advice. around 6 years ago when I was 19 I suffered with hypochondria and had a couple months therapy for it because the doctor felt it was bad enough. I haven't had any issues for over 5 - 6 years now and haven't had to be on any medication in those 5 - 6 years either. It says this condition is permanently disqualifying but I was wonderinng if that would actually still be likely the case
The diagnosis was?
 
The diagnosis was?
Just health anxiety, hypochondria. But on the list of disqualifying conditions it's a permanent disqualifier with seems odd if it's been almost 6 years with no issues, I took a screenshot, its n20 on the list.

Just making sure I haven't missed something. You can self harm once and get away with it after 2 years but anxiety from 6 years ago is a permanent bar from entry
 

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Bob65

Old-Salt
Just health anxiety, hypochondria. But on the list of disqualifying conditions it's a permanent disqualifier with seems odd if it's been almost 6 years with no issues, I took a screenshot, its n20 on the list.
I am not a doctor and have merely spent 5 minutes Googling this, it is possibly that this is referring to psychosomatic illness i.e. showing up at the doctor claiming to have symptoms that you do not. Was this the case? Or were you merely overly-worried about genuine symptoms, such as having a cough and immediately thinking it was pneumonia? And have you actually been rejected and are looking for a way to appeal, or not even applied yet?
 
I am not a doctor and have merely spent 5 minutes Googling this, it is possibly that this is referring to psychosomatic illness i.e. showing up at the doctor claiming to have symptoms that you do not. Was this the case? Or were you merely overly-worried about genuine symptoms, such as having a cough and immediately thinking it was pneumonia? And have you actually been rejected and are looking for a way to appeal, or not even applied yet?
Mine was actually getting a random symptom and genuinely assuming I had something serious wrong with me. I can understand why they'd defer for that if I still had it but after 6 years I'd think it would be okay, it's just it says it's a straight fail if you've ever had it. i haven't had my medical yet I'm waiting for a date I was just reading up on the process.
 

Fang_Farrier

LE
Kit Reviewer
Book Reviewer
Just health anxiety, hypochondria. But on the list of disqualifying conditions it's a permanent disqualifier with seems odd if it's been almost 6 years with no issues, I took a screenshot, its n20 on the list.

Just making sure I haven't missed something. You can self harm once and get away with it after 2 years but anxiety from 6 years ago is a permanent bar from entry
The rules are the rules.

Your medical history says you have a condition (and were treated for it) that bars you from entry.

Trying to compare it to other conditions is futile.
 
I’m due my clinical triage with the army soon!
Everything I am about to say, I am being 100% honest here.

I am on a contraceptive injection which has side affects of anxiety/low mood swings.

My first few years with my body adjusting to this was the hardest. I attended the doctor in hope to find alternatives but they said the pill will do the same. And instead, prescribed me fluoxetine. He said they will calm me down and should improve my mood.



2 years passed.



I went back for the same reason, doctor noticed I was prescribed fluoxetine and within 30 seconds of my appointment, offered these again.



In 2017 was my last time attending the doctors for this reason, as my body and hormones improved. He prescribed these to me one last time.



I looked into them and discovered they were anti depressants. I was never depressed. My hormones caused me to feel low and have bad days. I got up every morning, went to college, went to work, socialised, I was a happy chirpy girl. On all 3 occasions, I never got a repeat prescription and truth be told, only made it through 2 tablets On each occasion as I wasn’t depressed and it was an on day/off day thing.



December 2019, I left an abusive relationship which intact involved the police as I was processing an injunction. Long story short, he used to threaten to kill me and my family and burn my house down. This, obviously, caused me to be uneasy. I went to the doctors asking if there was anything I could do to calm my nerves and they gave me diazepam. I never went back for a repeat medication.



I am concerned that on my call, they will ask if I have ever suffered from depression and anxiety. I’ve never suffered depression nor have I ever been clinically diagnosed as depressed. I was never clinically diagnosed as suffering from anxiety either, the tablets were simply to calm my nerves after receiving death threats.



I understand in the army I will receive many threats - but they will never be personal and never affect me the way my ex boyfriend did.



If asked if I have suffered depression and anxiety, should I say yes or no? Because although I haven’t, the medication may have them disbelieve me.
You need to be honest as everything will be on file with your doctor , dont be surprised if you are not accepted though, I`m no doctor but using diazepam in Dec 2019 is very recent , why not go and do a degree ,stay fit and avoid the doctors if possible and re apply in three years , oh and avoid d*ck h*ad types as boy friends.
 
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Hi all, I was wondering if you could help. I have applied for the Army as an Avionics tech, right now I am waiting for the Army to access my medical records from my doctor but I am worried that I am going to be rejected for the following. Could I have your opinions please, I want to have an idea or I will pass or fail.

- Vitamin D and Folic Acid deficiency 4 years ago, haven’t required tablets over 3 years

- 5 surgeries for an ingrown hair over 2 years ago, been discharged and have no ongoing issues.

- 2 years ago prescribed the smallest dose of antidepressants but then discharged as the GP believed I have never needed them (I was not diagnosed with depression).

Thanks
 
How long does it take for the Army to access my medical records? I signed the document on Friday to say I give them permission.
If you’ve sent the forms to your GP then it depends when they get to the Army. They then say it can be 3-4 weeks form that point. Personally, I would call your GP once a week to make sure they are sending them off.
 

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