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Hi Guys, Is there any difference between the medical at the assessment centre and the one at basic training ? Not worrying about anything just curious if they are going to do all that stuff again. Thanks
 

Bobby_Bert

Old-Salt
Hi Guys, Is there any difference between the medical at the assessment centre and the one at basic training ? Not worrying about anything just curious if they are going to do all that stuff again. Thanks

The medical at Phase 1 usually involves a perusal of ones service medical docs, inoculations, blood-grouping, height weight & general health checks. Nothing too intrusive.

It is important to ensure recruits do not arrive with previously undisclosed /pre-existing medical conditions or injuries.
 
hi I have recently been medically rejected due to adhd which I was Diagnosed at around 10 which I never even took medication and also conduct disorder with violent behaviour problems it also mentioned that a history of animal cruelty in my recorded is of worry I’m going to appeal as I haven’t had any treatment for mental health and don’t suffer from any of the symptoms to date and I never actually harmed any animals there was an incident which was misunderstood and the police detained me but never charged me so I have no evidence on actually hurting animals what can I do to appeal this and whah are the chances of the appeal being successful
 
hi I have recently been medically rejected due to adhd which I was Diagnosed at around 10 which I never even took medication and also conduct disorder with violent behaviour problems it also mentioned that a history of animal cruelty in my recorded is of worry I’m going to appeal as I haven’t had any treatment for mental health and don’t suffer from any of the symptoms to date and I never actually harmed any animals there was an incident which was misunderstood and the police detained me but never charged me so I have no evidence on actually hurting animals what can I do to appeal this and whah are the chances of the appeal being successful

I wouldn't be getting your hopes up too high
 

The_Duke

LE
Moderator
If your medical records state all of that then you will need evidence that there is an error or some other evidence that suggests your circumstances have changed so that you meet the standard.

Given what you have said, you are very unlikely to convince the army that you are a person they should recruit. Sorry.
 
If your medical records state all of that then you will need evidence that there is an error or some other evidence that suggests your circumstances have changed so that you meet the standard.

Given what you have said, you are very unlikely to convince the army that you are a person they should recruit. Sorry.
What if I’m able to get evidence that I don’t have adhd or any other mental health issue
 

amnesia

Old-Salt
Is the urine sample in PULHHEEMS a Compulsory Drugs Test?
The urine sample isnt part of PULHHEEMS.

The "U" in PULHHEEMS stands for Upper Limbs.

The urine sample at the medical at AC is not a CDT, it is used to look for blood and excess glucose etc.

You are a civilian, and thus it is not appropriate to test for drugs.

The CDT comes during your Basic Training. I believe around week 6, but I'm happy to be corrected if somebody knows differently.
 

amnesia

Old-Salt
What if I’m able to get evidence that I don’t have adhd or any other mental health issue
If you have had issues with conduct disorder, and violent behaviour problems I would struggle to see a basis for an appeal.

Just because you dont like a decision doesnt make it an incorrect decision.
 
The urine sample isnt part of PULHHEEMS.

The "U" in PULHHEEMS stands for Upper Limbs.

The urine sample at the medical at AC is not a CDT, it is used to look for blood and excess glucose etc.

You are a civilian, and thus it is not appropriate to test for drugs.

The CDT comes during your Basic Training. I believe around week 6, but I'm happy to be corrected if somebody knows differently.
While it isn't a drugs test it was part of the run ups to every routine* pulhheems I ever did... So much urine in my life...


* Except for review of specific conditions that don't require urinalysis.
 

The_Duke

LE
Moderator
What if I’m able to get evidence that I don’t have adhd or any other mental health issue
If you have evidence that your medical record is wrong then present it. The person who is arguing that your doctor is wrong will need to hold a higher or more specialist qualification than your GP.

You, your teacher or mum’s mate won’t count.
 

Keajt

Crow
Alright lads first time post, I’ve been training for selection & unfortunately I suffered a knee injury which I now know is patellofemoral pain syndrome, I’m now fit & been discharged from physio I was just wondering whether this is a P8 or P2 ? Thanks in advance.
 
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If you have evidence that your medical record is wrong then present it. The person who is arguing that your doctor is wrong will need to hold a higher or more specialist qualification than your GP.

You, your teacher or mum’s mate won’t count.
I’m going to talk to my doctor about my medical as I have had no treatment for any of these nor have I seen anyone for it I was a child in care who behaved badly at school I’ve sorted myself out become a better person I wasn’t mentally ill just an idoit who thought he knew everything
 

DocSavage

Clanker
Alright lads first time post, I’ve been training for selection & unfortunately I suffered a knee injury which I now know is patellofemoral pain syndrome, I’m now fit & been discharged from physio I was just wondering whether this is a P8 or P2 ? Thanks in advance.
Patellofemoral pain syndrome is not a diagnosis as such it simply means you had pain at the front of your knee. If it was an acute injury that settles with no recurrence then you may be ok. If it was longer lasting or there was evidence of internal damage to structures like the joint surfaces then it is probably going to prevent you joining. Chronic / long term anterior knee pain is a significant problem in the forces and so any pre existing problem will be looked at closely
 

Keajt

Crow
Alright lads first time post, I’ve been training for selection & unfortunately I suffered a knee injury which I now know is patellofemoral pain syndrome, I’m now fit & been discharged from physio I was just wondering whether this is a P8 or P2 ? Thanks in advance.
Patellofemoral pain syndrome is not a diagnosis as such it simply means you had pain at the front of your knee. If it was an acute injury that settles with no recurrence then you may be ok. If it was longer lasting or there was evidence of internal damage to structures like the joint surfaces then it is probably going to prevent you joining. Chronic / long term anterior knee pain is a significant problem in the forces and so any pre existing problem will be looked at closely
Thanks for the reply luckily for myself it genuinely sorted it self out once I was given some exercises to do, I’m not back to full fitness & no problems so fingers crossed I hear back soon thanks again
 

DocSavage

Clanker
You may be told to wait for a few months or a year to show it is truly a one off but put the application in and see what comes out. Good luck
 

Keajt

Crow
You may be told to wait for a few months or a year to show it is truly a one off but put the application in and see what comes out. Good luck
Thankyou as I was already in the process I’ve had to send all evidence of too the medical team so just waiting on a reply now fingers crossed all goes well thanks again
 

SweetFA

Crow
Rejoiner here, anyone know if there is a time limit on the Level 1a RGMD appeals process? Nothing on the letter about it but it's been just under a year since I got the rejection letter and have been with different GPs in that time so it's been incredibly slow to get any assistance from them regarding it.
 

S7015642F

Swinger
Rejoiner here, anyone know if there is a time limit on the Level 1a RGMD appeals process? Nothing on the letter about it but it's been just under a year since I got the rejection letter and have been with different GPs in that time so it's been incredibly slow to get any assistance from them regarding it.
I’ve been waiting on mine since mid November and still no answer....

After I submitted mine it took the appeal team 4 weeks to tell me that they were referring my case to an occupational physician. This was before Christmas leave and was lucky to be told about this from business assurance who emailed me. After I was originally rejected in February 2019 I no longer had a csm. Which I put a complaint in and now have them following my case.

End of January 2020 they told me they want additional evidence. I’ve submitted that within a couple of days which I am now waiting on further four weeks for them to relook at it. It had taken a week of it being posted to be passed through the camp if posted through first class. Not tracked. Luckily with this wait I know my outcome will be positive with evidence that they’ve asked for.

I was rejected for sciatica and 2 episodes of anxiety. Within first four weeks of my appeal the sciatica has been uplifted as no diagnosis was on my medical records. To prove this is submitted my full primary health care records. I didn’t pay for anything as I was given a letter from business assurance to send to my gp.

In terms of 2 episodes of anxiety, since my rejection I contested over these entries made in adolescences and requested them to be altered. This took me from February 2019 till October 2019 till an agreement was made with my gp. Also reason my case was referred to occupational physician. In terms of further evidence I had to submit 3 character references, from employers or education, which a template was given containing 10 questions needed to be answered. I am now just waiting to hear back about it. If it looks okay (which sure can’t go wrong with them) my appeal will be uplifted. I’m hoping to find out next week.

My advice it could be between 4-6 weeks with an outcome or for them to tell you that you need additional information or that it’s being referred so make sure you have all the evidence there.

If you submit your appeal to glencorse they’re having slow issues with their admin as when the medical team have an outcome it takes them between 8-12 days to write up your letter and send it to you on your portal.
 

Joeyy13

Swinger
I’ve been waiting on mine since mid November and still no answer....

After I submitted mine it took the appeal team 4 weeks to tell me that they were referring my case to an occupational physician. This was before Christmas leave and was lucky to be told about this from business assurance who emailed me. After I was originally rejected in February 2019 I no longer had a csm. Which I put a complaint in and now have them following my case.

End of January 2020 they told me they want additional evidence. I’ve submitted that within a couple of days which I am now waiting on further four weeks for them to relook at it. It had taken a week of it being posted to be passed through the camp if posted through first class. Not tracked. Luckily with this wait I know my outcome will be positive with evidence that they’ve asked for.

I was rejected for sciatica and 2 episodes of anxiety. Within first four weeks of my appeal the sciatica has been uplifted as no diagnosis was on my medical records. To prove this is submitted my full primary health care records. I didn’t pay for anything as I was given a letter from business assurance to send to my gp.

In terms of 2 episodes of anxiety, since my rejection I contested over these entries made in adolescences and requested them to be altered. This took me from February 2019 till October 2019 till an agreement was made with my gp. Also reason my case was referred to occupational physician. In terms of further evidence I had to submit 3 character references, from employers or education, which a template was given containing 10 questions needed to be answered. I am now just waiting to hear back about it. If it looks okay (which sure can’t go wrong with them) my appeal will be uplifted. I’m hoping to find out next week.

My advice it could be between 4-6 weeks with an outcome or for them to tell you that you need additional information or that it’s being referred so make sure you have all the evidence there.

If you submit your appeal to glencorse they’re having slow issues with their admin as when the medical team have an outcome it takes them between 8-12 days to write up your letter and send it to you on your portal.
I'm currently waiting on my apeal desision to come back which was recieved by the meds team on 18th December, I was given a number which I was told that a normal apeal takes anywere from 2-6months and they are currently on a 2 month back log as they had 5 weeks off over Christmas and then the receptionists are working on a 2 week back log. I found this out about 3 weeks ago, so bevause of covid 19 I emagine we are going to be looking at longer depending if Drs are having to self isolate/ or a lock down happends.

Either way you could be waiting a few months to hear back, we just have to hang tight and wait! There's nothing you or I or anyone can do to hurry the process, just don't give up! And if this is the career you really want, you won't!
Good luck mate
 

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