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Bobby_Bert

Old-Salt
Hi everyone, another mental health question for you.

I just had my application rejected on medical grounds (antidepressant use for 24 months) and was wondering if I should try to appeal. My reasons for appealing would be that I haven't been symptomatic or medicated in two years, and am currently a healthy weight.
I was previously bulimic and had 2 episodes of self harm with about a year to 1.5 years in between them. The eating disorder developed while I was in school (I was tired of being called fat and have a tendency to overdo things) and wavered between peaks of severity over a few years, culminating in a leave of absence from university four years ago.
However, I was never hospitalised or dangerously underweight. I took antidepressants and underwent 12 sessions of CBT, and my last prescription for any psychiatric medication was two years ago. I consider myself recovered, and my last episode of self harm was over three years ago (or thereabouts.) I've maintained a healthy weight since then and have no issues with recurring symptoms or troubling thoughts- in fact I have reason to think that the medication I was previously prescribed only worsened my mental state. Since being off the meds I feel better and more stable than I ever did before.
I read the JSP-950 Annexe L and the guidelines for Bulimia, and am wondering if I need to wait for another two years before re-applying, or if I should even bother? In the guidelines on the army website it didn't mention eating disorders and implied just a 2-year period of recovery. I'm in my early twenties so it would be possible to hold off, but obviously I would prefer to apply sooner rather than later given that I'm about to graduate university.

Thanks, and apologies for oversharing!

Apply, expect to get rejected and appeal if you have relevant clinical evidence that will support. It’s unlikely enough time will of elapsed at this stage- manage your expectations.
 
Apply, expect to get rejected and appeal if you have relevant clinical evidence that will support. It’s unlikely enough time will of elapsed at this stage- manage your expectations.
Thanks for replying. I applied and received a rejection via the mailbox earlier today. I am a little concerned about clinical evidence- I didn't get a 'cured' diagnosis so much as I stopped taking the medication and felt better for it. I also just got a new GP who I barely know, so I worry too about the covering letter I need to get from her. I do plan on appealing, since there's nothing to lose in doing so.
 

Bobby_Bert

Old-Salt
Thanks for replying. I applied and received a rejection via the mailbox earlier today. I am a little concerned about clinical evidence- I didn't get a 'cured' diagnosis so much as I stopped taking the medication and felt better for it. I also just got a new GP who I barely know, so I worry too about the covering letter I need to get from her. I do plan on appealing, since there's nothing to lose in doing so.
What are you appealing? You cannot appeal against a standard just because you feel it shouldn’t apply to you. The standards are for your protection as much as they are for the Army.

To appeal, you need supporting, qualified medical evidence to prove it is something other than diagnosed condition, an error or proof that it doesn’t effect you. Rather difficult in your case. Something much more specialist than a GP.

Don't argue the case yourself if you are advised that you can appeal. You need nothing more than a brief covering letter announcing you wish to appeal and enclose the supporting qualified medical evidence for review by the experts.

The demands of the job are such that mental health issues are thoroughly investigated. I’m sorry to read about your struggles but consider how you have reacted when under stress before. Due to the extreme physical and mental duress encountered during the rigours of military training and operational tasking someone who self harms when incredibly stressed is a risk. This is, needless to say as a duty of care to you and those you might work alongside.

Don’t get confused with how serving personnel are treated. The medical standards for entry differ significantly for serving personnel as we try to rehabilitate anyone suffering from Mental ill health, but it is a bar to re-entry and unfortunately usually results in discharge.

Best of luck and manage your expectations.
 
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Ozzy00

Clanker
Hi all

Quick question is having flat feet a reason for me to fail the army medical??

kind regards
Hi there,
DISCLAIMER I AM NOT A DOCTOR OR PART OF ARMY RECRUITMENT

So I had flat feel and was prescribed insoles for it and I was denied but after an appeal I was allowed to go to the Assessment Centre where it would be examined by the Doc there who then cleared me

So I cannot say for certain what the British Army will say but be prepared for them to Deny you at first but I highly recommend you appeal but remember you need SUPPORTING MEDICAL EVIDENCE not opinions what I did was I went to my GP who sent me to a Physiotherapist who assessed me who said there shouldnt be any problems caused by my feet and then wrote a letter to my GP who then wrote the letter saying what the physio said (The physio asked him to do this as a GP has more medical weight that than him) and I then sent that letter of to the army with a covering letter.
Good Luck.
Ozzy
 

CaptainCod

Swinger
Hi there,
DISCLAIMER I AM NOT A DOCTOR OR PART OF ARMY RECRUITMENT

So I had flat feel and was prescribed insoles for it and I was denied but after an appeal I was allowed to go to the Assessment Centre where it would be examined by the Doc there who then cleared me

So I cannot say for certain what the British Army will say but be prepared for them to Deny you at first but I highly recommend you appeal but remember you need SUPPORTING MEDICAL EVIDENCE not opinions what I did was I went to my GP who sent me to a Physiotherapist who assessed me who said there shouldnt be any problems caused by my feet and then wrote a letter to my GP who then wrote the letter saying what the physio said (The physio asked him to do this as a GP has more medical weight that than him) and I then sent that letter of to the army with a covering letter.
Good Luck.
Ozzy
Cheers mate for the reply, how long ago was it since you joined?
 
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Hi all

Quick question is having flat feet a reason for me to fail the army medical??

kind regards
depends on the severity. We issued several recruits off the shelf corrective insoles as they were asymptomatic and didn't interfere with standard equipment. We, on occasion, had people sent away for bespoke orthotics.

If they cause you pain, and remember that overpronation will cause misalignment of the knees, the hips and then the spine (especially if it's uneven severity or just one foot) then this will probably be an issue
 

CaptainCod

Swinger
depends on the severity. We issued several recruits off the shelf corrective insoles as they were asymptomatic and didn't interfere with standard equipment. We, on occasion, had people sent away for bespoke orthotics.

If they cause you pain, and remember that overpronation will cause misalignment of the knees, the hips and then the spine (especially if it's uneven severity or just one foot) then this will probably be an issue
Thanks a lot for the information :)
appreciate the reply

kind regards
 
Hi, 3 years ago I have a clavicle separation (grade 2) played a game of rugby in Nov 2019 and had a little niggle, I'm trying to join the Army as a CMT, when i went to the docs, they said nothing was on my record for the separation and they referred me to MSK. my concern is that this will prevent me from joining as they have said something has come up in the medical triage they need to look at.

can anyone enlighten me on whether an AC separation would prevent me from joining i do not have any pain when training in the gym and it does not affect my everyday life?
 
Hi, I am rejoining the army after 3 years of being out and I have had problems with sciatica in my left leg. Had to go for a MRI to confirm it was a bulging disc. Would this be something to stop me getting back in?

Thanks
 

Ozzy00

Clanker
Hi, I am rejoining the army after 3 years of being out and I have had problems with sciatica in my left leg. Had to go for a MRI to confirm it was a bulging disc. Would this be something to stop me getting back in?

Thanks
Hi Mate
DISCLAIMER I AM NOT A DOCTOR NOR PART OF BRITISH ARMY RECRUITMENT

I would suggest a read of JSP 950 I will have a look and see what I can find quickly.

Regards
Ozzy
 

Ozzy00

Clanker
Hi, I am rejoining the army after 3 years of being out and I have had problems with sciatica in my left leg. Had to go for a MRI to confirm it was a bulging disc. Would this be something to stop me getting back in?

Thanks
Hello,
So after a quick look on the JSP 950 I have found this:
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Candidates with a history of sciatic pain with or without back pain are graded P8L8

In case you dont know P8 means Medically unfit
However I would recommend contacting the Recruitment team to see what they say and also remember you can appeal any medical decisions provided you have Clinical proof and not opinions

I know this isnt a simple yes or no answer but This is the best I can do.

Good Luck
Ozzy
 
Hello,
So after a quick look on the JSP 950 I have found this:
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Candidates with a history of sciatic pain with or without back pain are graded P8L8

In case you dont know P8 means Medically unfit
However I would recommend contacting the Recruitment team to see what they say and also remember you can appeal any medical decisions provided you have Clinical proof and not opinions

I know this isnt a simple yes or no answer but This is the best I can do.

Good Luck
Ozzy
Hi mate, that’s great thanks a lot! Suppose I will just have to wait and see what the outcome is. I’ve been going to private physio and physiotherapist said he would draft a letter up for me to support my application that he doesn’t see any reason why I can’t join.
 

Ozzy00

Clanker
Hi mate, that’s great thanks a lot! Suppose I will just have to wait and see what the outcome is. I’ve been going to private physio and physiotherapist said he would draft a letter up for me to support my application that he doesn’t see any reason why I can’t join.
Hello,
No worries
Nice one when/if they deny you they should send details of how to appeal
 
Hi there, does anyone have any contact information for OCCMED please?? I am a re-joiner and sent my appeal to them a few weeks ago, but other than the fact that I sent it via Special Delivery which was obviously signed for upon receipt, I do not know where about’s it is in the process. The ARC have said it’s no longer in their hands and they don’t have any way of contacting them either, but that they should have sent a letter out to me, but I haven’t heard a thing, so I don’t even know if it’s where it should be or even if it’s been lost. Hope you can help.
 
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Bobby_Bert

Old-Salt
Hi there, does anyone have any contact information for OCCMED please?? I am a re-joiner and sent my appeal a few weeks ago, but other than the fact that I sent it via Special Delivery which was obviously signed for upon receipt, I do not know where about’s it is in the process. The ARC have said it’s no longer in their hands and they don’t have any way of contacting them either, but that they should have sent a letter out to me, but I haven’t heard a thing, so I don’t even know if it’s where it should be or even if it’s been lost. Hope you can help.
You are being mugged off- three minutes on MODNET and I’ve found the address you need. Unfortunately it’s marked for MOD use only- so I shan’t be posting it.

Nonetheless the postal address is there, speak again to the ARC.
 

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