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Fang_Farrier

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I would like to add to that, the quote says "clearly diagnosed", which I understand to mean that the diagnosis must be a) made by a specialist (ie a psychiatrist) and b) must be unequivocal.
That's very semantic and pragmatic of you. :biggrin:
 

Kaytemonn

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My medical has been accepted and I’ve been invited to the Assessment Centre. However, as I have “anxiety/intrusive thoughts” on my records back in 2017. I’ve only just been allowed in and have to have a medical straight away at the assessment centre. I was 16 at the time and finished my school exams and was literally doing nothing with my life just sat around.

Anyway, What sort of things will the doctor be asking me?

Thanks
Hiya I have a very similar issue, I went to the docs in 2010 and 2014 for some anxiety issues.
How did it go? Did you pass and what sort of stuff did they ask?
 
I would like to add to that, the quote says "clearly diagnosed", which I understand to mean that the diagnosis must be a) made by a specialist (ie a psychiatrist) and b) must be unequivocal.
At the very least I'd expect there to be some delay until the current diagnosis is clarified.
 
I’m having red lumps that sometimes have puss on my groin area, looking at the NHS website is suggests I have something called HS. It’s not a serious case of HS from what I can tell. To get rid of this I’ll have to have 2 weeks of antibiotics. Would this make me unfit for service?
 

Fang_Farrier

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I’m having red lumps that sometimes have puss on my groin area, looking at the NHS website is suggests I have something called HS. It’s not a serious case of HS from what I can tell. To get rid of this I’ll have to have 2 weeks of antibiotics. Would this make me unfit for service?
Herpes Simplex? No

Hereditary Spherocytosis? Yes

Hidradentius suppurativa? Depends
 
Just an update in my application.... I attended lichfield for my selection in december, passed this based on my GP notes (they hadnt recieved them). Once they obtained my Gp notes I was given a P8L8 due to 2 episodes of back pain, appealed this and first appeal was rejected, 2nd appeal, level 1B was upheld and I was invited to PSMA, I attended this and passed with flying colours, not I've just to see a spinal specialist.
Just thought I'd update to show that appeals can be won! Dont give up on your journey guys!
 

danielwayne

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Well guys, the unthinkable and outrageous has happened to me and I am quite heartbroken because of it (the reasons are understandable).
Without writing a text that might resemble a novelette, this is my situation: I am a British-Portuguese guy (31 years old) who swiftly decided to join the British Army as soon as I found out that the enlistment rules had been modified (that which prevented me from joining before was the fact that I never lived in the United Kingdom).
Convinced that I would be accepted, I have essentially “shelved” my Portuguese life (assets transferred to someone else, notified the tax authorities, etc.).
That which halted my application (initiated in January) was the fact that I had no medical records in the UK (understandable). Once I got them (not an easy job, Portugal is not like the UK on matters such as these, and on top of that I was never medically assisted in any hospital – the only thing they had was my vaccines, which are all to date).
I then, after doing a check-up (blood and urine tests, electrocardiogram and some x-rays), had to translate them from Portuguese to English (a service which was not cheap).
I sent them last week. They do not reveal any condition whatsoever (how could they? I never had any medical problems in the past and I do not smoke nor drink, and I am someone who does physical exercises frequently).

The thing (finally!) is, I need teeth braces for reasons that are primarily aesthetic (according to my dentist), a fact I stated in a paper I filled in when I was at the Army Recruitment Centre. I could do without the braces. The dentist I went to also told me I still have two baby teeth and that one wisdom tooth should be removed. I do not have any tooth cavities, etc. I actually considered taking care of this 6 months ago, but decided not to do so because I feared that having braces might delay my joining the Army.
Today I received two messages. One telling me that the situation regarding my teeth had caused the deferment of my application, due to "active orthodontic treatment", "the reason is due to your ongoing dental treatment". There is absolutely nothing undergoing at the moment nor do I have any appointment scheduled with any dentist.
The second one informing me that the deferment was of 9 months. After all I have done, all the money spent on travels back and forth, translations, medical appointments, medical exams, etc., an issue to me trivial has torpedoed my application and tossed me into a horrible, unjust spot.
9 months! I mean, this is utterly daft. And unfair.
What can I do? Phone the NRC Medical Staff? Write them a letter? Are there any chances of my deferment being modified?

Thanks.
 
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Fang_Farrier

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Well guys, the unthinkable and outrageous has happened to me and I am quite heartbroken because of it (the reasons are understandable).
Without writing a text that might resemble a novelette, this is my situation: I am a British-Portuguese guy (31 years old) who swiftly decided to join the British Army as soon as I found out that the enlistment rules had been modified (that which prevented me from joining before was the fact that I never lived in the United Kingdom).
Convinced that I would be accepted, I have essentially “shelved” my Portuguese life (assets transferred to someone else, notified the tax authorities, etc.).
That which halted my application (initiated in January) was the fact that I had no medical records in the UK (understandable). Once I got them (not an easy job, Portugal is not like the UK on matters such as these, and on top of that I was never medically assisted in any hospital – the only thing they had was my vaccines, which are all to date).
I then, after doing a check-up (blood and urine tests, electrocardiogram and some x-rays), had to translate them from Portuguese to English (a service which was not cheap).
I sent them last week. They do not reveal any condition whatsoever (how could they? I never had any medical problems in the past and I do not smoke nor drink, and I am someone who does physical exercises frequently).

The thing (finally!) is, I need teeth braces for reasons that are primarily aesthetic (according to my dentist), a fact I stated in a paper I filled in when I was at the Army Recruitment Centre. I could do without the braces. The dentist I went to also told me I still have two baby teeth and that one wisdom tooth should be removed. I do not have any tooth cavities, etc. I actually considered taking care of this 6 months ago, but decided not to do so because I feared that having braces might delay my joining the Army.
Today I received two messages. One telling me that the situation regarding my teeth had caused the deferment of my application, due to "active orthodontic treatment", "the reason is due to your ongoing dental treatment". There is absolutely nothing undergoing at the moment nor do I have any appointment scheduled with any dentist.
The second one informing me that the deferment was of 9 months. After all I have done, all the money spent on travels back and forth, translations, medical appointments, medical exams, etc., an issue to me trivial has torpedoed my application and tossed me into a horrible, unjust spot.
9 months! I mean, this is utterly daft. And unfair.
What can I do? Phone the NRC Medical Staff? Write them a letter? Are there any chances of my deferment being modified?

Thanks.
All appeals need, evidence, you will need letter from your dentist stating not in active orthodontic treatment and that you are dentally fit.

A phone call to your CSM to state that there's a gross error might work.
 
so i had my clinical triage today and they asked about my mental health. i told them about my ADHD that i got diagnosed with as a kid, and they asked if i had any fights or problems at school which i did but only in primary school (upto year 6) my whole secondary school i was a normal kid maybe late a few times but never got into fights or anything of the nature. they said they couldnt continue because i had "ADHD with violent or delinquent tendancies" but this was only me when i was 11 years old!! ive been calm and cool since i came into secondary school. ive not taken any medication for this since i was like 13 (im 18 now) i get PiP as a result for this but i feel like im tottally fine to join the army its been a dream ever since i was a kid to be proud to serve my country. im going to appeal because i have no violent tendancies at all anymore i was just a spoilt brat growing up. should i lose hope or fight my appeal? becasue this news has destroyed me and changed my whole future.
Assuming this isn't a wind up...


You get PiP but feel the army is the place for you?

to qualify for PiP

You must also have a health condition or disability where you:
  • have had difficulties with daily living or getting around (or both) for 3 months
  • expect these difficulties to continue for at least 9 months (unless you’re terminally ill with less than 6 months to live)
the link to health condition or disability gives this as a definition

You’re disabled under the Equality Act 2010 if you have a physical or mental impairment that has a ‘substantial’ and ‘long-term’ negative effect on your ability to do normal daily activities.
The Equality Act 2010 doesn’t apply to Northern Ireland.
What ‘substantial’ and ‘long-term’ mean
  • ‘substantial’ is more than minor or trivial, eg it takes much longer than it usually would to complete a daily task like getting dressed

I'd expect this to bar to for entry until you no longer qualify for PiP at the very least
 
my pip runs out next year and and my mum dealt with that as I was too young at the time but I know My notes from primary school were used as my reference to qualify for this benefit. I’ve not taken medication and since I was like 12 because as soon as I went to secondary school I got out of that “little shit” mindset and was a normal kid ever since.
so you are ok now and don't need PiP?

have you informed them of this?

You are 18 and therefore considered an adult I believe.

Change of circumstances
You must contact the PIP enquiry line if:
  • your personal details change, for example your name, address or doctor
  • the help you need or your condition changes
  • you go into hospital or a care home
  • you go abroad
  • you’re imprisoned or held in detention
You could be taken to court or have to pay a penalty if you give wrong information or do not report a change in your circumstances.
 

Fang_Farrier

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my pip runs out next year and and my mum dealt with that as I was too young at the time but I know My notes from primary school were used as my reference to qualify for this benefit. I’ve not taken medication and since I was like 12 because as soon as I went to secondary school I got out of that “little shit” mindset and was a normal kid ever since.
Also if you're 18 now, PIP has not been around long enough for you to have been receiving it since primary school.
You must have been assessed later.

Are you seriously saying that you and your family have financially benefited from an allowance given to those with a long term condition that you don't need?
 
Also if you're 18 now, PIP has not been around long enough for you to have been receiving it since primary school.
You must have been assessed later.

Are you seriously saying that you and your family have financially benefited from an allowance given to those with a long term condition that you don't need?
it'll be his mums fault
 

Fang_Farrier

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it'll be his mums fault
There's one at Tiny Miss F's school where the kid has Autism.
But the mum does nothing to help the situation such as routines, keep off inappropriate websites, basic control of the kid.
But she has stated between his PIP and what she gets for fibromyalgia she's on over £2,000 a month!
 
There's one at Tiny Miss F's school where the kid has Autism.
But the mum does nothing to help the situation such as routines, keep off inappropriate websites, basic control of the kid.
But she has stated between his PIP and what she gets for fibromyalgia she's on over £2,000 a month!
it would appear that it's another one who's happy to receive the benefits of the condition but now it's bitten him in the arrse, isn't happy with the down side
 

danielwayne

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All appeals need, evidence, you will need letter from your dentist stating not in active orthodontic treatment and that you are dentally fit.

A phone call to your CSM to state that there's a gross error might work.
Yes, I thought so, but what kind of evidence can I supply about something that is not there, such as an active orthodontic treatment? Go to a dentist and ask him to write a paper stating that I am not undergoing any treatment?

About the appeals, do these have a timetable? Can I sort this out next week (book an appointment with the dentist)?

Is the army really so demanding when it comes to the dental situation of a recruit? I mean, my teeth are fine, but, jesus, I'm a bit befuddled.

Thanks mate.
 
Yes, I thought so, but what kind of evidence can I supply about something that is not there, such as an active orthodontic treatment? Go to a dentist and ask him to write a paper stating that I am not undergoing any treatment?

About the appeals, do these have a timetable? Can I sort this out next week (book an appointment with the dentist)?

Is the army really so demanding when it comes to the dental situation of a recruit? I mean, my teeth are fine, but, jesus, I'm a bit befuddled.

Thanks mate.
I know you are not under any treatment or planning on starting it, but according to the paperwork you have outstanding treatment,

remember you are hoping to go to basic training, there isn't a great deal of time for dental treatment to be carried out. Why should it be paid for by your new employer anyway? It's not like you'll have time to go to a civi dentist during training.

I'm confident it can be sorted out for you though
 

danielwayne

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I know you are not under any treatment or planning on starting it, but according to the paperwork you have outstanding treatment,

remember you are hoping to go to basic training, there isn't a great deal of time for dental treatment to be carried out. Why should it be paid for by your new employer anyway? It's not like you'll have time to go to a civi dentist during training.

I'm confident it can be sorted out for you though
Thanks, mate, I really appreciate the positive thinking. I'll see what I can do tomorrow. My recruiter told me to phone the NRC Medical Staff. I will do so tomorrow and see what can be done to try to at least reduce the deferment time - to 3 months.
Does this happen?
 

danielwayne

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Reading one more time the messages I received, I only noticed now that my application has been rejected (and not defered for 9 months like I said before) due to the deferal being for more than 9 months, but I did receive another one that says I can appeal (Level 1a Appeal). Can I still appeal? I'm asking this because the application rejected message came after the appeal one.
 

Fang_Farrier

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Yes, I thought so, but what kind of evidence can I supply about something that is not there, such as an active orthodontic treatment? Go to a dentist and ask him to write a paper stating that I am not undergoing any treatment?

About the appeals, do these have a timetable? Can I sort this out next week (book an appointment with the dentist)?

Is the army really so demanding when it comes to the dental situation of a recruit? I mean, my teeth are fine, but, jesus, I'm a bit befuddled.

Thanks mate.
Yes, the Army is quite fussy about teeth. That's why we have a Corps dedicated to the treatment of them.
In short. It costs the military plenty both in terms of money and time to maintain the dental health of its troops. By ensuring that they are reasonably healthy to start with reduces that.
Teeth can render a soldier unfit to deploy or once deployed unfit to fight. This has been the case through out history.

Theoretically this should be easy enough to rectify with a certificate of dental fitness from your own dentist. They might charge you for this.
 

danielwayne

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Yes, the Army is quite fussy about teeth. That's why we have a Corps dedicated to the treatment of them.
In short. It costs the military plenty both in terms of money and time to maintain the dental health of its troops. By ensuring that they are reasonably healthy to start with reduces that.
Teeth can render a soldier unfit to deploy or once deployed unfit to fight. This has been the case through out history.

Theoretically this should be easy enough to rectify with a certificate of dental fitness from your own dentist. They might charge you for this.
I understand that and I find it perfectly reasonable. But my teeth, albeit not being those of some celebrity, are all right: no cavities, no decay and I do not need to do anything (no outstanding procedures) unless my crooked wisdom tooth starts to ache, which doest not happen and has not happened since it was first detected 15 years ago (I haven't got a clue about the whereabouts of this dentist, therefore contacting him is out of the question).

The really ridiculous thing about this is that their assessment is based on what I wrote on a paper when at the Army Briefing. And I fear I wasn't clear enough when I done so.

I do have a question: when someone is rejected on medical grounds (mine being “candidates who are undergoing active orthodontic treatment”), does the army state all the reasons they found, or just one?
 
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