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Got word today that my medical appeal was successful and it only took them 2 weeks after receiving it to make the decision :D

I couldn't get my original GP to even entertain the idea that he was wrong in his initial assessment when he sent off my application so I went through the process of changing GPs. Since there wasn't much to do in the way of providing medical evidence about my so called "condition" my new GP gave me a full look over and then wrote that in his opinion my first GP was mistaken and that he didn't believe there would be an issue.
It worked :D

Now awaiting my date for selection which is being rushed though :D Fingers crossed I will have a job offer within the next month :D
That’s really good news.
Can I ask how you worded your appeal letter? I’m going through a similar problem but with a once only rash on my hand 8 years ago which was entered on my records as eczema, the doctor has written to say it was unlikely eczema but my first appeal got rejected. I’m wondering if we’re writing the appeal all wrong. I have an appointment with a dermatologist and have sent a complaint to the GP to have my medical records amended. But I’m wondering how to word my next appeal.
 
That’s really good news.
Can I ask how you worded your appeal letter? I’m going through a similar problem but with a once only rash on my hand 8 years ago which was entered on my records as eczema, the doctor has written to say it was unlikely eczema but my first appeal got rejected. I’m wondering if we’re writing the appeal all wrong. I have an appointment with a dermatologist and have sent a complaint to the GP to have my medical records amended. But I’m wondering how to word my next appeal.
I didn't write too much myself to be honest. I just explained my reason for personally thinking the original decision was a mistake. In my rejection I was given an extract from the JSP950 that had been used when making the decision, so I broke that down and explained how each and every bit of it didn't apply to me. I then explained that I had done a lot of physical training recently and the issue had not come back.
I finished the letter off explaining that I had seen my GP and that I had enclosed his letter in my appeal.

Since I didn't get as far as a second appeal all I can think is that you do exactly what you are doing, see an expert, get the records changed etc. I think the appeal is more about the evidence you provide than the way you write the letter, I am terrible at writing letters ;) Did your appeal rejection give you a breakdown on how they reached the decision? Maybe ask if not, and if it did I would use this when gathering evidence for stage 2.

I hope everything works out for you, after some of the comments I received on here with regards to my appeal I struggled to get my hopes up, but anything can happen! :)
 
I’ve just received a letter back after returning my gp forms and have been requested to do a 12 week diary of run times and distances including hill walks carrying weight.
I have already been doing this type of training and have my Strava account with it recorded. Does anybody know if this will be accepted? I’m going to send it in anyway and see what they say just wanted to know if anybody has similar experience. I’ve applied for 4 para and I’m 38 so was wanting to get on the June cadre as time is running out for me.
 
I didn't write too much myself to be honest. I just explained my reason for personally thinking the original decision was a mistake. In my rejection I was given an extract from the JSP950 that had been used when making the decision, so I broke that down and explained how each and every bit of it didn't apply to me. I then explained that I had done a lot of physical training recently and the issue had not come back.
I finished the letter off explaining that I had seen my GP and that I had enclosed his letter in my appeal.

Since I didn't get as far as a second appeal all I can think is that you do exactly what you are doing, see an expert, get the records changed etc. I think the appeal is more about the evidence you provide than the way you write the letter, I am terrible at writing letters ;) Did your appeal rejection give you a breakdown on how they reached the decision? Maybe ask if not, and if it did I would use this when gathering evidence for stage 2.

I hope everything works out for you, after some of the comments I received on here with regards to my appeal I struggled to get my hopes up, but anything can happen! :)
Thanks for the advice, yeah that’s pretty much how I wrote my first letter. I’ve also got another letter from the gp for the second appeal so hopefully I should have enough this time. Keeping my fingers crossed.
 
I have it also in left eye,but somehow still sneaked in. It was my ineptitude, lack of self discipline and cynical disrespect for authority that should have kept me out.

Good luck mate, I hope it doesn't stand in your way.
 
The second option...
I only discovered it myself when I was sort of 'intermittently short sighted', which was my left eye struggling to focus under old fashioned fluorescent lighting.
 
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Didn't stop me but then I wore my lenses for the medical and didn't tell anyone:mrgreen: CLF
Blind as a ******* bat
 
Hi I've passed my selection with an A yesterday the only thing was I was deffered under medical grounds I used drugs when I was younger about 7 8 years ago and also on a broken cheek bone that happened 13 years ago and I've no on going issues, I've to see a specialist for this. Any ideas if this will stop me from joining?
I passed ADSC with a High A Grade at the end of January but got deferred for a foot Op I had back in 2015, got sent to a specialist at the Armys expense less than a month later, 2 weeks after said Spec Med I got a start date for Phase one. Honestly I wouldn't worry to much, however be aware that the Specialist they may send you to could be on the other side of the country, I live in Greater Manchester and was sent to Southampton
 
Hi there,
I'm 22, 6"4 and Weigh 65kg. Giving me a BMI of 17.4 not the 18 Needed. I applied over 3 years ago and was turned away on the interview. Since then I have but on weight but nothing substantial despite trying numerous methods of exercise and diet changes. It is a common thing in my family to be skinny on both sides in the men.
I'm quite fit and have always been active. So is there any chance of me getting in with the chance to of fitness tests and to bulk up on training or would I be turned away again outright.
I read that overweight applicants sometimes get seen case by case so thought maybe underweight maybe the same. I would like to go down to a recruitment office,but my nearest one would require a day off work which I cannot get at the moment.
 
Hi I was wondering if I could get some help as I cannot find this information on the website and cannot call up as it is the weekend.

I have been diagnosed with costochondritis, this is when the cartilage at the end of your ribs near the breastbone/sternum inflames and it causes a sharp pain, sometimes I need to stop for it to go away but I have never used painkillers for it beforehand the exercise. It is a condition that goes away by itself usually when I stop growing.

I was wondering as I am 16 and hoping to join HARROGATE this September would that still be possible as this condition is nothing to do with my respiratory system and doesn’t require long term medication and it is also not a permanent condition.

I have just found out that there are anti-inflammatory tablets I can take before exercise, hence predictably stopping the pain. There are also pain meds I can take before exercise aswell. However, it is known that taking these medications could possibly stop the pain all together even without taking the meds, as my body will adapt to how the anti-inflammatory meds affect my body and hopefully start doing this by myself.
 

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Hi I was wondering if I could get some help as I cannot find this information on the website and cannot call up as it is the weekend.

I have been diagnosed with costochondritis, this is when the cartilage at the end of your ribs near the breastbone/sternum inflames and it causes a sharp pain, sometimes I need to stop for it to go away but I have never used painkillers for it beforehand the exercise. It is a condition that goes away by itself usually when I stop growing.

I was wondering as I am 16 and hoping to join HARROGATE this September would that still be possible as this condition is nothing to do with my respiratory system and doesn’t require long term medication and it is also not a permanent condition.

I have just found out that there are anti-inflammatory tablets I can take before exercise, hence predictably stopping the pain. There are also pain meds I can take before exercise aswell. However, it is known that taking these medications could possibly stop the pain all together even without taking the meds, as my body will adapt to how the anti-inflammatory meds affect my body and hopefully start doing this by myself.
Even without looking at JSP950, have a wee think about this.

If you can not currently exercise without pain or at least the risk of pain stopping you, then perhaps it is better to defer until you have grown enough so that it si no longer happening and you are sure that it is not permanent otherwise you will just not get through training. Meds or no meds.


Edited to add relevant section from JSP950. The important word here is endurance.

From JSP950, Section K Musculo-Skeletal

2. b. Function. The candidate must not have any limitation of range of movement, dexterity, strength or endurance likely to interfere with military training or Service (formal assessment advised in certain cases, eg weapon handling).
 
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worrying won't do anything so try not to let it worry you, however on eyesight the levels required are pretty low, the right eye has a higher standard than the left.
Do you wear glasses/contacts? have you been advised to? when was your last eye check?

You'd be surprised how low the left eye standard is
What is the standard for right eye? My son has his test done today at Specsavers and he has right lazy eye
 
Hi hope in in the right place anyone had a successful appeal for history of depression in 2012-2016 and a history of lower back pain 2016-2017 i was never diagnosed just in a low mood at the time which resulted in lower back pain due to sitting down playing video games i haven't received or taken any medication since i run 1.5 in 10:16 ive as fit and strong as ill ever be can someone help me at wording a letter i can send with my gp's letter, im just worried i wont word it right.
 
Hi hope in in the right place anyone had a successful appeal for history of depression in 2012-2016 and a history of lower back pain 2016-2017 i was never diagnosed just in a low mood at the time which resulted in lower back pain due to sitting down playing video games i haven't received or taken any medication since i run 1.5 in 10:16 ive as fit and strong as ill ever be can someone help me at wording a letter i can send with my gp's letter, im just worried i wont word it right.
@DJRenegade might be able to help, having recently successfully gone through the appeal process.
 
Even without looking at JSP950, have a wee think about this.

If you can not currently exercise without pain or at least the risk of pain stopping you, then perhaps it is better to defer until you have grown enough so that it si no longer happening and you are sure that it is not permanent otherwise you will just not get through training. Meds or no meds.


Edited to add relevant section from JSP950. The important word here is endurance.

From JSP950, Section K Musculo-Skeletal

2. b. Function. The candidate must not have any limitation of range of movement, dexterity, strength or endurance likely to interfere with military training or Service (formal assessment advised in certain cases, eg weapon handling).
Sorry to bother u again I just have another question.
I can do all the exercises that the army will require me to do with a simple painkiller, does frequent use of painkillers bar me from joining? As I won’t have to take it forever.

Also I have had this pain for like 5 years and just recently been diagnosed. However, I used to play football all the time, and I took an asthma spray (thinking it was asthma) and all the pain would go away and I could play like normal. Just an example that I can carry on before, after and during the pain.
 

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Sorry to bother u again I just have another question.
I can do all the exercises that the army will require me to do with a simple painkiller, does frequent use of painkillers bar me from joining? As I won’t have to take it forever.

Also I have had this pain for like 5 years and just recently been diagnosed. However, I used to play football all the time, and I took an asthma spray (thinking it was asthma) and all the pain would go away and I could play like normal. Just an example that I can carry on before, after and during the pain.
It's not a bother.

Sorry to say, but the Army does not go on "used to play football" but on medical evidence such as a confirmed diagnosis of a condition which may impact upon your service.

Having to stop during physical exertion, ( as you stated in your previous post) is not a good indicator.

The military envirnoment does not respond well to conditions that require frequent medication, especially those which require pre-medication before you can do physical activity. The reason for this is that, if deployed, you just do not know when you may suddenly have to be active.

You would be better waiting to see if your condition settles and in a few years, when you no longer need meds apply with the appropriate medical evidence and fitness diary to that effect
 

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