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Message: [QUOTE="Herrumph, post: 3595645, member: 22799"] The problem is we are not getting the Nepalese or the Poles/Afghans/Pakis/Kosovans/Romanies/Pikkies/Travellers/East Europeans/Albanians/Bangladeshies/Ozzies/Paddies* - what we are getting is both groups causing the excess strain on resources. Even the current government doesn't have the courage to grip the situation and limit overall immigration; whilst the last bunch of clowns positively encouraged it in order to get votes. Their fight against the Ghurkas wasn't because they objected to further immigration they just didn't think this bunch of immigrants were likely to vote labour. Howarth is pretty dim to now alienate them! * feel free to delete to suit your own personal prejudices [/QUOTE]