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Alan Turing

#1
By anyones standards Alan Turing deserves the tag of hero, his work at Bletchley saved countless lives. His life style was not conventional for the times he lived in, and as such in the 50's he was convicted of gross indecencey, which eventually led to him taking his own life. In almost any other country this man would be a celebrated hero, yet in the UK, the country he served his character remains in question.
Whilst not agreeing with his chosen lifestyle I would ask all members of this site to put any predjudice they may have to one side and sign the petition to have the conviction expunged from his records.


https://submissions.epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/23526
 
#7
Absurd and pointless. Homosexuality was either illegal or it wasn't. If the law is going to be posthumously repealed for Turing, then the convictions of everybody thus convicted, alive or dead, should also be expunged - a law can't be unfair for Alan Turing and fair for Joe Soap.

I would suggest that the main reason for Turing's lack of historical visibility was not his interest in other gentlemen, but the fact that he was a 'boffin' or in current parlance a 'geek' in a culture that reveres the Man of Action rather than the 'Backroom Boy'. More people have heard of the flyboys of the RAF than have heard of R J Mitchell, haven't they?
 
#8
Absurd and pointless. Homosexuality was either illegal or it wasn't. If the law is going to be posthumously repealed for Turing, then the convictions of everybody thus convicted, alive or dead, should also be expunged - a law can't be unfair for Alan Turing and fair for Joe Soap.

I would suggest that the main reason for Turing's lack of historical visibility was not his interest in other gentlemen, but the fact that he was a 'boffin' or in current parlance a 'geek' in a culture that reveres the Man of Action rather than the 'Backroom Boy'. More people have heard of the flyboys of the RAF than have heard of R J Mitchell, haven't they?
" backroom boy " !
 
#11
I would have thought Turing would be well past caring by now in any case. You never know he may have seen his conviction as badge of honour along with the likes of Oscar Wilde & Quentin Crisp.
 
#12
Absurd and pointless. Homosexuality was either illegal or it wasn't. If the law is going to be posthumously repealed for Turing, then the convictions of everybody thus convicted, alive or dead, should also be expunged - a law can't be unfair for Alan Turing and fair for Joe Soap.

I would suggest that the main reason for Turing's lack of historical visibility was not his interest in other gentlemen, but the fact that he was a 'boffin' or in current parlance a 'geek' in a culture that reveres the Man of Action rather than the 'Backroom Boy'. More people have heard of the flyboys of the RAF than have heard of R J Mitchell, haven't they?

Hardly a "backroom" boy.

Went out on a limb,to build the aircraft he wanted,his designs won the Schneider Trophy outright,got Rolls Royce to redesign parts of the 'Merlin',to fit into 'his' Spitfire,Reg was hardly a backroom boy.:)
 
#13
Absurd and pointless. Homosexuality was either illegal or it wasn't. If the law is going to be posthumously repealed for Turing, then the convictions of everybody thus convicted, alive or dead, should also be expunged - a law can't be unfair for Alan Turing and fair for Joe Soap.

I would suggest that the main reason for Turing's lack of historical visibility was not his interest in other gentlemen, but the fact that he was a 'boffin' or in current parlance a 'geek' in a culture that reveres the Man of Action rather than the 'Backroom Boy'. More people have heard of the flyboys of the RAF than have heard of R J Mitchell, haven't they?
It's got B'all to do with being behind the scenes. It's due to the minor inconvenience that until relatively recently almost all of Turing's work was on the secret list.

Do I think that the prosecution and chemical castration of homosexual's was right? No. Do I think that Turing's criminal record can be expunged? Same answer.

He broke the law, was caught and convicted. No amount of bleating can change that, and nor should it. In fact we need examples like Turing to
remind us that equality should apply to everybody, not just those that we like, are in our own socio-group, or those that we approve of.

Expunging Turing's record would be morally wrong and belittle the challenge that he faced in trying to continue working.

The law was wrong; he wasn't.
 
#14
Hardly a "backroom" boy.

Went out on a limb,to build the aircraft he wanted,his designs won the Schneider Trophy outright,got Rolls Royce to redesign parts of the 'Merlin',to fit into 'his' Spitfire,Reg was hardly a backroom boy.:)
You do know who Alan Turing was don't you??

Turing was the designer of the computer Colossus the first computer, and is deemed the father of modern computing. He died in 1954 having committed suicide using cyanide.

RJ Mitchell designed the Spitfire and died in 1937 of cancer, he never got to see the impact his design would have
 

seaweed

LE
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#17
It is NOW thought that the law was wrong but whether that was the consensus at the time I rather doubt. Buggery is now fashionable but it wasn't then.
 
#18
I did not inted the term 'backroom boy' to be a proper way to regard the likes of Mitchell and Turing, I was merely pointing out that the British are culturally inclined, in the mass of population, to laud the efforts of action men rather than the efforts of intellectuals, designers and engineers.

Far worse indiscretions than Turing's were covered up, smoothed over, forgotten about for reasons of policy. He was reputedly more than a little eccentric and regarded as a loose cannon - perhaps his 'gross indecency' simply provided an expeditious way to sideline a man whose superiors had already decided was becoming a liability. A man who habitually, and without explanation or apparent cause, concludes his dinner by hurling his coffee cup and saucer into a lake, is likely to be regarded with some apprehension by civil servants given the task of maintaining secrecy.
 

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