AJAX - the ‘NOT the CR2 upgrade’ thread

Londo

LE
Not sure, soundings from yesterday seemed to indicate we are still saying farewell to Warrior. It's a quality wagon though, defintely one of the best of its generation (lack of stabilisation notwithstanding).

With regard to the new Melange Brigade in Germany all reports saying Armoured ish, Challys and Boxer. But from what I understand is that inhouse OAs have said, very vehemently, that it should not be used in a IFV role otherwise it will get a spanking. So the need for a heavy IFV remains
Very disappointed regarding Warrior . We need the thing and will need it badly if things ever go tits up .

Doesn't need a full upgrade re. 40mm gun with more 'blatt' just a modest upgrade with with improved electrics and sights and give the turret crew a Javelin launcher to play with .
 

Cold_Collation

LE
Book Reviewer
Very disappointed regarding Warrior . We need the thing and will need it badly if things ever go tits up .

Doesn't need a full upgrade re. 40mm gun with more 'blatt' just a modest upgrade with with improved electrics and sights and give the turret crew a Javelin launcher to play with .
No.

The upgrade was done and is good to go. A 'modest' upgrade means more work and time wasted. It's not as simple as pick and choose and 'improved electronics'.

The Warrior team has delivered something good to go. So go.


Edited to add 'not'.
 
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Londo

LE
No.

The upgrade was done and is good to go. A 'modest' upgrade means more work and time wasted. It's as simple as pick and choose and 'improved electronics'.

The Warrior team has delivered something good to go. So go.
I thought there were severe problems with the new turret and gun on Warrior. If I'm wrong then I'm with you 100% on this .
 

riksavage

War Hero
Just doesn't make sense then . Someone needs putting up against a wall .
According to the Times a proper judicial review of AJAX will be completed and those accountable will be exposed, named and punished. Reports of lying to conceal the true extent of programme failures has triggered the need for the break glass in emergency mess webley. Wallace is riding to the rescue guns a blazing.
 

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According to the Times a proper judicial review of AJAX will be completed and those accountable will be exposed, named and punished. Reports of lying to conceal the true extent of programme failures has triggered the need for the break glass in emergency mess webley. Wallace is riding to the rescue guns a blazing.
EXCELLENT !!

Just as I posted at #4,005 .

Thanks for the confirmation ;) .

 
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I take it there is plenty of life left in the remaining Warrior fleet? Did the 'planned' upgrade include any work below the turret?
The hull was modified around the front right, at least. How extensive anything else in the hull was, I’ve not seen mentioned.
 

Bubbles_Barker

LE
Book Reviewer
If you have ever worked at the DE&S and Defence Digital you will soon realise that the Senior Civil Servants are shocking. I actively dissuade my current boss from hiring them as they are generally useless
It’s always good to see the ‘commander of British forces in Afghanistan’ being trotted out for his unusual rentagob opinions on things about which he knows nothing.
 

Bubbles_Barker

LE
Book Reviewer
The hull was modified around the front right, at least. How extensive anything else in the hull was, I’ve not seen mentioned.
From what I saw in the line there was a full base overhaul for the hull. Quite a bit of cracking IIRC.
 

Bubbles_Barker

LE
Book Reviewer
I've been in some loud AFVs.
Just HOW loud is Ajax? Or is it more frequency than volume?
They’ve just ‘discovered’ that all AFVs are too loud not just the background noise but the MA too so I’m afraid it’s not just AJAX.

Who knew?
 

Cold_Collation

LE
Book Reviewer
According to the Times a proper judicial review of AJAX will be completed and those accountable will be exposed, named and punished. Reports of lying to conceal the true extent of programme failures has triggered the need for the break glass in emergency mess webley. Wallace is riding to the rescue guns a blazing.
That snippet has 'ouch' written all over it.
 

Bubbles_Barker

LE
Book Reviewer
No.

The upgrade was done and is good to go. A 'modest' upgrade means more work and time wasted. It's not as simple as pick and choose and 'improved electronics'.

The Warrior team has delivered something good to go. So go.



Edited to add 'not'.
Source? WCSP was riven with problem of turret integration and delivery failures by LM last time I looked?
 
I want to know how far they went with cancelling WCSP. Is it all still in being? Or are the test vehicles parked up and the documents archived, at least? Or did they go full TSR-2 and have a blueprint bonfire (well, the digital equivalent)?
 
I want to know how far they went with cancelling WCSP. Is it all still in being? Or are the test vehicles parked up and the documents archived, at least? Or did they go full TSR-2 and have a blueprint bonfire (well, the digital equivalent)?
Two vehicles were sent to Bovington and Shrivenham, the others?
 
Source? WCSP was riven with problem of turret integration and delivery failures by LM last time I looked?
When did you last look? I got the impression that it was quite positive in the last year(s) up to the cancellation.

 

Bubbles_Barker

LE
Book Reviewer
When did you last look? I got the impression that it was quite positive in the last year(s) up to the cancellation.

I admit it was a while ago, maybe 2019, can’t be sure. I have no dog in the fight just watching in horrified fascination.
 

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