Bit of CR3:
@CH512O what was it, what is it supposed to be now ?!. . . This caught my eye. Having been involved with a these things when they were at the end of their Service lives, we were told they were going to a museum or land-fill........it seems they were bought and refurbished. Suprising as I was told by those that used them, they were horrible to be in and they were glad to get off them and into their little canoes or re-breathers!
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So the SBS had 2 of these to do all weather insertions.
but all artillery duels are not fought with the respective artillery at their maximum possible ranges…
Don't worry - it's all going to be alright:Indeed - if you're outranged, you can compensate with mobility, protection and excellent ISTAR, if your opponent is reasonably obliging. See the artillery raids against Iraqi forces during 1991, for instance, where SP guns were able to approach discreetly, lure the longer-ranged yet static Iraqi artillery into firing, then smite them with great vigour.
If you don't have mobility and protection (because you're "fighting light") then you need range and ISTAR to survive (which ties into accuracy and lethality: if you need to fire more rounds because your RAP projectiles have less payload and less precision, you're giving the enemy CB sensors much more chance to make the sky fall in on your gridsquare)
If you're doctrinally committed to dispersed operations, then either your artillery range limits how far you can actually disperse, or you accept that your scattered forces are on their own without support (good luck with that...)
So, under what relevant circumstances does short range look like an advantage?
and yet in Afghanistan, there we were, asking the neighbours with 155mm guns to smite things for us….
I think people easily forget it was a coalition effort - why bring your own 155mm if an ally is willing and able to bring theirs?Asking specifically for 155
Or asking for 155 as 105 didnt hve the range
Or Asking for more Artlllery support in general
Or as part of a coalition operation the neighbours guns were better positioned/ allocated / availible.
I only ask because Theres a big difference between obliged to use 155 as 105 couldnt do the job and used what was availible which happenned to be 155
I suppose the immediate counter is, what if you need the capability and haven’t got it?I think people easily forget it was a coalition effort - why bring your own 155mm if an ally is willing and able to bring theirs?
Because words like aerial, battlespace, data, carriers, connectivity put the message across that we are getting all hi-tech and soon we can “fight the war with UAV’s and robots”.
Soucy were showing off some rather nice and apparently field-tested rubber tracks at DSEI.Ask the Aussies if they’d give us a couple for trials, independent suspension, rubber tracks, brilliant. According to the blurb, you can hold a conversation with others in the back!
Ive often wondered why rubber tracks haven’t been used up to now!
Perhaps, I was just making the point that having our own 155mm there would have been more costly etc when others were on the task org to deliver those capabilities.I suppose the immediate counter is, what if you need the capability and haven’t got it?
We seem to be abdicating too many capabilities.