Airsoft - Valuable training tools, or waltish toys?

#1
I was chatting with a mate the other day and we got onto the subject of airsoft guns (we were passing a shop that sells them) and if they could be useful as training tools (H&S, insurance, and so on considerations aside)?

Obviously they're going to be useless for anything long range, but for FIBUA (or whatever the current acronym is) they sound ideal.

Has anyone actually had any experience of using them for this type of thing?

I know that weapons for simunitions are available through the system, but both times I've used them, they've been utter crap and jammed more often than they fired. So I'm not overly impressed by them.

What's the verdict of my fellow ARRSErs, worth a look, or steer clear?
 
#2
Useful for teaching your kids how to deal with intruders.
 
#3
Okay, I'll admit it, at the risk of being slated and called a fúcking Walt. I used to own/play with them a couple of years back (yeah, I was/am young and I guess I was kinda a walt but I grew up, honest), but I am not going to pretend like I know anything about guns and tactics when I start basic.

I guess they can give you an idea what it would be like moving from room to room etc, and in my mind you'd have to have similar tactics and movements, but it doesn't mean they are good soldiers. I did it for a bit of fun, and I wasn't dressed up like a SWAT member or Para like some of the fat wannabe bastards were.

So maybe some of the people who've done it might have a bit better idea than someone who has NEVER done anything, but I don't think it's something that should be adopted in any official manner or in any training sense.

Erm, yeah, that's all. I've taken a risk by admitting that I've ever had something to do with airsofting, so give me your worst.
 
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Forks said:
Okay, I'll admit it, at the risk of being slated and called a fúcking Walt. I used to own/play with them a couple of years back

Erm, yeah, that's all. I've taken a risk by admitting that I've ever had something to do with airsofting, so give me your worst.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

well that must have shaved weeks off your training then, I bet they had you take a few classes so the instructors could bunk off.
 
#6
gibson097 said:
Signed up to the forums just to promolgate this.

I am currently using airsoft as a training aid within a training wing !

You can scoff but much of what Alpha 55 has said is relevant.

We are using Pop up Half fig 11's (locally bodged up) They make a convincing PING when hit. as targettry.

In an environment where we have limited access to training areas and inexperienced staff from all 3 services. This has been a usefull tool (and something of a novelty for many)

Cost ....negligable I have access to the guns for free so the only real out going its the ammo at approx 10 quid for 4000 or so.

Safety issues. Eye protection is the main consideration. Legally the power these things generate should leave them unable to penetrate skin even at point blank. However there is an obvious risk with eye injurys.

Practicality. You can set up a CQB shoot practically anywhere.

The effective range of these things is only about 25 yards. But if you have an area with a bit of scrubby woodland. Set them up either side of a track. and run it like a scaled down range.

I think you would have to see it in action to appreciate that there is value for money from a training perspective.

Disadvantages. Well the weapons are not wholly realisitic and while quite robust are not Tom Proof. The stoppage drills are wholly different to the real thing and ammunition useage is unrealistic. though you can get Magazines loaded with no more than 30 rounds (though this is a touch fiddly)

All in all we have had good feedback. No its not a frontline training tool. Yes there is some advantage to be gained in actually conducting training.

it cheap and I have to say. Fun and rewarding for the DS and students.

any further info required drop me a line.
That the kind of thing I meant!

Thanks for finding the thread Stabtiffy. I did do a search but gave up after the first few pages rather than go 2 1/2 years back!

Anyone else with any relevant experience of using these in a training situation?
 

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