Airport Security: The Lies Exposed

#1
I'm a regular - frequent - business traveller, visiting EU countries, North America, and grotty parts of the, er "developing" world on a regular basis. Like everybody else, I trudge dutifully through tiresome security processes at airports all over the world.

But here's the difference: unlike most others, I simply cannot be arrsed to put my shower gel, toothpaste, shampoo, contact lens solution etc etc into a diddy little plastic bag (<100 ml, of course) and take it out of my hand baggage for separate scanning. So it stays in the bottom of my daysack where it belongs.

I have taken many,many, flights since Aug 2006 since all this began when some nasty people were going to blow us all out of the sky using explosive shaving foam. Or something.

Only one ONE occasion have I ever been caught out (congrats Birmingham!) - and maybe a litre bottle of coke was pushing it a touch. Nor have they EVER found my penknife that always goes in my hand baggage too.

So here's my conclusion: none of this airport security nonsense works,. It's all a pack of lies, designed by Government to intimidate you, control you, and create a false illusion of safety. But it doesn't work. Are you any safer for any of this? Absolutely not.

Has anybody else noticed this or am I a lone prophet in this desert of sheep-like insanity?
 
#4
I have never failed to get at least two weapons on board an aircraft. The only practical measures which really work are the armed El Al skymarshals (at least one hijack defeated and at least one bombing deterred) and the Lauber Handling El Al pre-flight luggage searches, which have detected one live bomb (the dim-bulb Irish girl with the oh-so faithful Jordanian boyfriend).

Most other stuff is a waste of time.
 
#5
Hobo-Ken said:
I'm a regular - frequent - business traveller, visiting EU countries, North America, and grotty parts of the, er "developing" world on a regular basis. Like everybody else, I trudge dutifully through tiresome security processes at airports all over the world.

But here's the difference: unlike most others, I simply cannot be arrsed to put my shower gel, toothpaste, shampoo, contact lens solution etc etc into a diddy little plastic bag (<100 ml, of course) and take it out of my hand baggage for separate scanning. So it stays in the bottom of my daysack where it belongs.

I have taken many,many, flights since Aug 2006 since all this began when some nasty people were going to blow us all out of the sky using explosive shaving foam. Or something.

Only one ONE occasion have I ever been caught out (congrats Birmingham!) - and maybe a litre bottle of coke was pushing it a touch. Nor have they EVER found my penknife that always goes in my hand baggage too.

So here's my conclusion: none of this airport security nonsense works,. It's all a pack of lies, designed by Government to intimidate you, control you, and create a false illusion of safety. But it doesn't work. Are you any safer for any of this? Absolutely not.

Has anybody else noticed this or am I a lone prophet in this desert of sheep-like insanity?
Sshhhh. It's a bleedin' secret innit! You've probably got my mate the sack now. Where else is he gonna earn £3.25 per hour? :)
 
#6
I got a thunderflash back from exercise crusader,didn,t hand it in and left it in my webbing for a 6 month UN tour in Cyprus...flew out there,never used it and brought it home again.....let it off in the woods for my brothers.....no security back then,not to mention the 2 smoke bombs i had....from same exercise.....the old boy in the woods with his Jack Russell was surprised!
 
#7
roadster280 said:
Hobo-Ken said:
I'm a regular - frequent - business traveller, visiting EU countries, North America, and grotty parts of the, er "developing" world on a regular basis. Like everybody else, I trudge dutifully through tiresome security processes at airports all over the world.

But here's the difference: unlike most others, I simply cannot be arrsed to put my shower gel, toothpaste, shampoo, contact lens solution etc etc into a diddy little plastic bag (<100 ml, of course) and take it out of my hand baggage for separate scanning. So it stays in the bottom of my daysack where it belongs.

I have taken many,many, flights since Aug 2006 since all this began when some nasty people were going to blow us all out of the sky using explosive shaving foam. Or something.

Only one ONE occasion have I ever been caught out (congrats Birmingham!) - and maybe a litre bottle of coke was pushing it a touch. Nor have they EVER found my penknife that always goes in my hand baggage too.

So here's my conclusion: none of this airport security nonsense works,. It's all a pack of lies, designed by Government to intimidate you, control you, and create a false illusion of safety. But it doesn't work. Are you any safer for any of this? Absolutely not.

Has anybody else noticed this or am I a lone prophet in this desert of sheep-like insanity?
If you are ex-military, and a premium traveller, you will know the answer.

And will not need to share it with those that either don't know, or can't figure it out.
Not sure what the "premium traveller" bit has to do with it? And are you telling me I can't discuss this sort of thing on t'interweb?
 
#8
Interesting, as I have been picked up for a pack of issue green and red batteries, apparently they resembled rounds. I have also been picked up on fluids, a zippo lighter concealed in a metal thermos and a metal pot full of food.

Maybe I just look like a terrorist.

That said I have inadvertantly got things through too.
 
#10
roadster280 said:
Hobo-Ken said:
Not sure what the "premium traveller" bit has to do with it? And are you telling me I can't discuss this sort of thing on t'interweb?
By premium traveller, I mean the kind of customer that airlines and airports value. The kind that is there, week in, week out, knows the score, what to say and do, and what not to say and not to do.

It's up to you what you post, but rumour has it, this is quite a sensitive subject about which to be posting.
Do stop talking shite.
 
#11
roadster280 said:
msr said:
roadster280 said:
Hobo-Ken said:
Not sure what the "premium traveller" bit has to do with it? And are you telling me I can't discuss this sort of thing on t'interweb?
By premium traveller, I mean the kind of customer that airlines and airports value. The kind that is there, week in, week out, knows the score, what to say and do, and what not to say and not to do.

It's up to you what you post, but rumour has it, this is quite a sensitive subject about which to be posting.
Do stop talking shite.
What would you know about international air travel, numbnuts?
More than you, obviously.
 
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#12
I used to have a 12" surgical steel plate in my leg - back in 2003 i queued up, along with everyone else, for 40mins at manchester airport to go thru a metal detector, which did not detect said plate! Normally it did set off metal detectors & i carried a photo of x-ray with me to save me dropping my pants everytime. The metal detector was not working/was not switched on.

Airport security - joke.

Way to remain safe? Find out why they want to blow us out of the sky and resolve it - talk & compromise with our enemies (it stopped the IRA blowing us up... generally).
 
#13
Want to remain safe?

1) Provide secure doors on the cockpit - check

2) Make passengers realise that fighting back is what they need to do - check

Almost everything else is security theatre.

msr
 
#14
msr said:
Want to remain safe?

1) Provide secure doors on the cockpit - check

2) Make passengers realise that fighting back is what they need to do - check

Almost everything else is security theatre.

msr
At LAST! Someone who understands the difference. I have long felt that it is unlikely that there will ever be another successful hijack. Everyone involved thinks that they will all be on their way to the nearest tall building, so everyone will now fight to the death.

Every man on board with his family will take a last look at his wife and kids and then kill anyone who gets in their way.
 
#15
I've carried larger quantities of liquid on board, when the guy scanning the bags asked if I had liquids I told him no and he let me on my way. It was CDG though...

COULD HAVE BEEN NG!
 
#16
Ever heard of "deterrence"? Am I the only one who thinks that terrorists aren't sauntering onto planes with a bomb stuffed in their daysack because we have these security procedures?
 
#17
A few years ago a Japanese journo en-route to Tokyo from Iraq was stopped at Amman airport when security detected a "grenade" in the journos bag. The journo said that it was "quite safe" and that he had been given it as a souvenir in Iraq. A security bloke opened the journos bag and examined the "grenade". It exploded, killing the security man and injuring three others. The journo got 3 years in nick in Jordan.
 
#18
Makes me laugh how the security 'guards' (aka actors) take a bottle of water off you on the specious grounds that it might be explosive and lob it into a bin.

If it was that dangerous they would surely place it very, very gently down?

msr
 
#19
old_nis said:
msr said:
Want to remain safe?

1) Provide secure doors on the cockpit - check

2) Make passengers realise that fighting back is what they need to do - check

Almost everything else is security theatre.

msr
At LAST! Someone who understands the difference. I have long felt that it is unlikely that there will ever be another successful hijack. Everyone involved thinks that they will all be on their way to the nearest tall building, so everyone will now fight to the death.

Every man on board with his family will take a last look at his wife and kids and then kill anyone who gets in their way.
Here is Bruce Scheier on the last attempt. FAIL: http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2010/01/airport_securit_12.html

msr
 
#20
Few weeks back, that high risk terrorist hub of inverness airport...

hand baggage x-rayed, some minor emergency among the staff as they realise they've got a live one - they pull my bag open to reveal the contraband items, a 25ml tin of lynx deodorant, shock horror!

bag goes back in the x-ray machine, high risk contraband items are placed in a clear plastic bag and handed to me along with my baggage... 8O

phew, pleased to know that the addition of a small clear plastic bag is gonna save us all from these human waves of martyr bound terrorists :evil:
 

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