Aid Workers Kidnapped in Afghanistan.

#1
Apparently, 2 foreign aid workers and their 3 Afghan colleagues have been kidnapped in northern Afghanistan. This is not the first time aid workers have been kidnapped in various dodgy places as we know.

What I would like to know is, do you think they are asking for it by being in those places, or do you admire them for going there and trying to make a difference?
 
#5
do you think they are asking for it by being in those places, or do you admire them for going there and trying to make a difference?
The former. As I've said elsewhere, it's a career move that can end in tears.

You should decide before you go to these places what you would do if you get a bag over your head. I would rather accept the consequences than have a dead rescuer on my conscience.

I made the choice to go: they didn't.

Oh and they don't make a difference anyway. You've been reading the propaganda again.
 
#8
Why bother with that basket case of a country? Whoever the aid workers are, and wherever they are from, I'm pretty sure there are needy people in their own neck of the woods who would appreciate their help. And they won't be getting measured for an orange jumpsuit either.
 
#9
Why bother with that basket case of a country? Whoever the aid workers are, and wherever they are from, I'm pretty sure there are needy people in their own neck of the woods who would appreciate their help. And they won't be getting measured for an orange jumpsuit either.
You have to have time "in toilet" to go for the big jobs back in DC, New York, or Oxford or wherever. A six monther would be best on a CV.

I say 'toilet' but most of these people don't venture into the bowl, they stay on the rim, protected from the horrors of what lies beneath, proclaiming Harpic powers that will rid the toilet of unpleasant stenches. Occasionally, some of them slip and go right around the S-bend, which is what's happened (again) here.

There was a daft bint from Oxfam on Skype this morning, piped into Sky News from Sana'a telling the world that ten million Yemenis were starving to death. How she knew this from her perch over the laptop in the safe house was never explained. Unfortunately for her, half way through the 2-way, news broke that the Saudis had stumped up $3.25bn in aid to help the Yemenis out, making her visit to Sana'a all the more pointless.
 
#11
You have to have time "in toilet" to go for the big jobs back in DC, New York, or Oxford or wherever. A six monther would be best on a CV.

I say 'toilet' but most of these people don't venture into the bowl, they stay on the rim, protected from the horrors of what lies beneath, proclaiming Harpic powers that will rid the toilet of unpleasant stenches. Occasionally, some of them slip and go right around the S-bend, which is what's happened (again) here.

There was a daft bint from Oxfam
on Skype this morning, piped into Sky News from Sana'a telling the world that ten million Yemenis were starving to death. How she knew this from her perch over the laptop in the safe house was never explained. Unfortunately for her, half way through the 2-way, news broke that the Saudis had stumped up $3.25bn in aid to help the Yemenis out, making her visit to Sana'a all the more pointless.
I see a pattern emerging: I worked in Afghanistan when most of the south of the country was under Taleban rule - Oxfam in their infinate wisdom sent a 'high powered' woman to be country manager. She got to Kabul and stopped all programs until the Taliban recongnised women as equal to men. Great. Stop all aid work until an extreme Islamic organisation subscribes to western principles!

She became the laughing stock of the NGO community, and eventually Oxfam told her to get a grip otherwise she'd be sacked.

After that I never gave another cardigan to Oxfam.
 
#12
I've got 2 friends who've decided that they're going to go and 'help the poor children' in some dangerous smelly hell hole through a charity i've never heard of. both are attractive girls a blonde and a brunette in their early twenties who've been talked into it by a charming charity type and apparently this scheme will have them staying with the locals while doing the work. when i pointed out the fact that they could volunteer for a charity here in the UK for a feel good factor rather than in the middle of nowhere in the middle east or north africa i think and the dangers this entails i was just the nasty racist person who can't understand why these people need our help

i wasn't prepared to argue the toss with them as they're dug into their position but being as neither are what i'd describe as 'outdoors people' i can't see it ending well at best i see them coming home within a week or two with a nasty case of D & V at worst i realy wouldn't like to think as the organiser of their expedition seems a right cowboy
 
#15
I've got 2 friends who've decided that they're going to go and 'help the poor children' in some dangerous smelly hell hole through a charity i've never heard of. both are attractive girls a blonde and a brunette in their early twenties who've been talked into it by a charming charity type and apparently this scheme will have them staying with the locals while doing the work. when i pointed out the fact that they could volunteer for a charity here in the UK for a feel good factor rather than in the middle of nowhere in the middle east or north africa i think and the dangers this entails i was just the nasty racist person who can't understand why these people need our help

i wasn't prepared to argue the toss with them as they're dug into their position but being as neither are what i'd describe as 'outdoors people' i can't see it ending well at best i see them coming home within a week or two with a nasty case of D & V at worst i realy wouldn't like to think as the organiser of their expedition seems a right cowboy
I ridiculed a friend of my wife a few years ago because she was gobbing off to all and sundry about VSO work in Mozambique (well after the war, and when the tourist industry was really kicking in). She refused to speak to me (and my wife who was not involved in my put-downs) again.

One year later she was running an ice cream stall in Mozambique.

It's my opinion that many people get involved in aid work for the supposed kudos it brings them - "I'm far more worldly wise and wrthy than you because I help starving orphans in a continent you know nothing about." Helping needy people in the home counties [or wherever in the UK] ain't got the same cachet unfortunately.
 
#16
both are attractive girls a blonde and a brunette in their early twenties
Pictures? Come on, you know the rules, you've been a member long enough!

Back on thread. I am with the majority view - it is always the rescue party I feel sorry for, particularly when some of those rescued seem a tad ungrateful, because the "war-like military" rescued them. Can't be arsed looking up the references, but there are a few of them around.
 
#17
Who was that christian minister i think he was british who went out to iraq got himself kidnapped doing aid work and THEM managed to find and rescue him by the skin of his teeth and then apparently he got rather nasty over the fact that in rescueing him the boys in black nasty had been such rotters that they'd actually killed his kidnappers their are some people who just shouldn't be allowed to leave their own backgardens expecting the world to be all fluffy and cosey.

sorry no pics i'm afraid but to be fair neither of them dress very slutty on nights out so your not missing much, i just think it'll all end in tears but your right theirs nothing worse than a charity type on their high horse the bloke whos talked them into this spent an hour talking about how he'd taken such risks to help children in Zimbabwe with pictures and how non violent protest is the way to get those nasty forighn regimes to change,i think generally its a boat load of AKs and ammo that change things in those places but kept my mouth shut to be diplomatic.

Loving the adverts for unicef on the banners
 
#18
Pictures? Come on, you know the rules, you've been a member long enough!

Back on thread. I am with the majority view - it is always the rescue party I feel sorry for, particularly when some of those rescued seem a tad ungrateful, because the "war-like military" rescued them. Can't be arsed looking up the references, but there are a few of them around.
Like that stupid commie bitchLlittle Miss Stockholm Syndrome Yvonne Ridley from County Durham? Shame the Taleban didn't keep her. That'd teach em.
 
#19
John Civie, tell your two friends to take lots and lots of condoms with them, and to instruct the locals to use them in order that no more children be born into grinding poverty. A couple of years ago, I was stopped in the street in Glasgow city centre by a UNICEF worker, telling me about their work to innoculate poor children in Africa. I pointed out that these kids come from families of 15 to 20 kids, and that these people are the last people in the world who should be having families that size.

It makes you laugh when you hear about these overseas projects: food this, water that, medical the other...who is gonna do a contraception programme?
 

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