Afghan troops to be incorporated in to UK mainland units

The English have a succesful history of incorporating foreign talent in to their military
eg combining the Highland Charge with the English bayonet to win for them the British Empire; the Maori Patu to club German paratroops in the NZ units at Crete; the Gurkha Kukri to behead German more paratroops at Monte Cassino; and now the scimitars of Afghan refugees, to create 'elite special-operations' flying squads to police the UK and elsewhere against threats domestic and foreign. These Afghanis are descended from warriors who successfully fought off Alexander the Great, the Mongols, the Moguls, the British, Indians, Persians, Pakistanis, Uzbeks, Tadjiks, Chinese, Soviets, Taliban, ISIS etc etc

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Mickey West

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The English have a succesful history of incorporating foreign talent in to their military
eg combining the Highland Charge with the English bayonet to win for them the British Empire; the Maori Patu to club German paratroops in the NZ units at Crete; the Gurkha Kukri to behead German more paratroops at Monte Cassino; and now the scimitars of Afghan refugees, to create 'elite special-operations' flying squads to police the UK and elsewhere against threats domestic and foreign. These Afghanis are descended from warriors who successfully fought off Alexander the Great, the Mongols, the Moguls, the British, Indians, Persians, Pakistanis, Uzbeks, Tadjiks, Chinese, Soviets, Taliban, ISIS etc etc

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Put the Commando comics down.
 
Maalox . Stop it. All of it. Everything you post is is a bag of ****. Just……. Stop it.
 
The English have a succesful history of incorporating foreign talent in to their military
eg combining the Highland Charge with the English bayonet to win for them the British Empire; the Maori Patu to club German paratroops in the NZ units at Crete; the Gurkha Kukri to behead German more paratroops at Monte Cassino; and now the scimitars of Afghan refugees, to create 'elite special-operations' flying squads to police the UK and elsewhere against threats domestic and foreign. These Afghanis are descended from warriors who successfully fought off Alexander the Great, the Mongols, the Moguls, the British, Indians, Persians, Pakistanis, Uzbeks, Tadjiks, Chinese, Soviets, Taliban, ISIS etc etc

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Author of the original article (had you bothered your sad little self to read and digest it) makes the point that - surprise, surprise - there would be serious issues of sustainability.

I mean, it's not like your average SF Op planner is going to cut corners in 10 years time, to accomodate a 55 year-old Afghani element, nor is it likely that (even with the extraordinary Afghan capacity for duplicity and double-dealing for profit) a Taliban-led Afghan gubmint is going to OK a treaty that allows UK to siphon off the most capable and fiercely anti-Taliban types to fight on the side of a fundamentally anti-Taliban nation, is it?

You farkineejit.
 
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No, for three very good reasons:

1. They are not British or of the Empire.

2. They can’t fight.

3. They can’t be trusted.
 
The English have a succesful history of incorporating foreign talent in to their military
eg combining the Highland Charge with the English bayonet to win for them the British Empire; the Maori Patu to club German paratroops in the NZ units at Crete; the Gurkha Kukri to behead German more paratroops at Monte Cassino; and now the scimitars of Afghan refugees, to create 'elite special-operations' flying squads to police the UK and elsewhere against threats domestic and foreign. These Afghanis are descended from warriors who successfully fought off Alexander the Great, the Mongols, the Moguls, the British, Indians, Persians, Pakistanis, Uzbeks, Tadjiks, Chinese, Soviets, Taliban, ISIS etc etc

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OneTenner

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... the Gurkha Kukri to behead German more paratroops at Monte Cassino; ...
The Gurkha's (who in mindset are similar to Afghans) were fought to a standstill at Montecassino - twice, and had to be rescued, the septics suffered heavy losses due to lack of combat experience (by many years) and being led by that feckwit Clarke, the Germans were most afraid of the Moroccan mountain troops, under French command, who overwhelmed many of their 'defence in depth' OP's by advancing over impassable terrain. Montecassino was captured (empty, except for casualties & medical staff) by French & Polish troops

If you want to make a point, make it historically accurate. In my experience, I'd trust ANA or Afghan SF slightly more than your judgement, but not by much.
 
oh, this again. I thought we decided against it after all, since it was an utterly ridiculous idea considering that we just downsides the army again on top of the sustainability of recruits, the fact that you cant buy an afghan let alone trust them and the fact that we don't have any use for a bunch of afghan "SF" operators anymore.

There are plenty of private security companies that might find a use for them but the British Army is not really the place for this sort of thing anymore.


just imagine the green on blue threat that we lived with for 15+ years and people want to bring that onto UK soil? No thanks
 

Aquavite

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The English have a succesful history of incorporating foreign talent in to their military
eg combining the Highland Charge with the English bayonet to win for them the British Empire; the Maori Patu to club German paratroops in the NZ units at Crete; the Gurkha Kukri to behead German more paratroops at Monte Cassino; and now the scimitars of Afghan refugees, to create 'elite special-operations' flying squads to police the UK and elsewhere against threats domestic and foreign. These Afghanis are descended from warriors who successfully fought off Alexander the Great, the Mongols, the Moguls, the British, Indians, Persians, Pakistanis, Uzbeks, Tadjiks, Chinese, Soviets, Taliban, ISIS etc etc

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It's true. The army will save a fortune by not having to issue boots........or bog roll.
 
No, for three very good reasons:

1. They are not British or of the Empire. They can't be trusted.

2. They can’t fight. They can't be trusted.

3. They can’t be trusted.
FTFY.
 
The Gurkha's (who in mindset are similar to Afghans) were fought to a standstill at Montecassino - twice, and had to be rescued, the septics suffered heavy losses due to lack of combat experience (by many years) and being led by that feckwit Clarke, the Germans were most afraid of the Moroccan mountain troops, under French command, who overwhelmed many of their 'defence in depth' OP's by advancing over impassable terrain. Montecassino was captured (empty, except for casualties & medical staff) by French & Polish troops

If you want to make a point, make it historically accurate. In my experience, I'd trust ANA or Afghan SF slightly more than your judgement, but not by much.
I don't think there were any French at Monte Cassino. The French Expeditionary Force had breached the Gustav Line at a different point forcing the German 1 Falschirmjager Division to withdraw from Monte Cassino, leaving only their badly wounded. It was then occupied by the Polish Corp.

The Moroccans terrified the Italian civilians even more. Going onto a rape and murder spree in which 3,000 Italian's were killed.

Would you trust the Afghans any more. At least the Gurkhas are used to over 200 years of British and British Indian Army discipline and traditions. Not so the Afghans.
 
Joanna Lumley, who was born in India, of the New Avengers, fought mightily and succeeded to have the UK accept the Gurkhas and their extended families brought to the UK.

Is there any equivalent media star fighting for the Afghani elite snatch-squads?




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Ritch

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The English have a succesful history of incorporating foreign talent in to their military
eg combining the Highland Charge with the English bayonet to win for them the British Empire; the Maori Patu to club German paratroops in the NZ units at Crete; the Gurkha Kukri to behead German more paratroops at Monte Cassino; and now the scimitars of Afghan refugees, to create 'elite special-operations' flying squads to police the UK and elsewhere against threats domestic and foreign. These Afghanis are descended from warriors who successfully fought off Alexander the Great, the Mongols, the Moguls, the British, Indians, Persians, Pakistanis, Uzbeks, Tadjiks, Chinese, Soviets, Taliban, ISIS etc etc

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According to the article - the military are considering it. They're not doing it as you posted.

You're right up there with Dipso and MrDude for wibbling fantasist of the year.
 

OneTenner

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There were four Div. of French Expeditionary Corps under Gen. Juin at Montecassino, so 'French' in terms of command structure and mostly being from their colonies - 1st French Motorized Division (Maj Gen Diego Brosset), 2nd Moroccan Infantry Division (Maj Gen Andre Dody), 3rd Algerian Infantry Division (Maj Gen Joseph de Monsabert) and the 4th Moroccan Infantry Division (Maj Gen Francoise Sevez).
The Goumiers fought well but committed atrocities whilst chasing the withdrawing Germans. The Poles 'took' Montecassio itself, once the flanks had been secured by the French (incorporating the Goumiers). The Gurkhas see the British army as something to be proud of serving in, the Afghans would see it as a meal ticket for as long as it suits them.
 
Hold your fire, peeps. I've reported this thread to the grown-ups. Hopefully it'll be moved to it's rightful place soon.
 

Mickey West

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Joanna Lumley, who was born in India, of the New Avengers, fought mightily and succeeded to have the UK accept the Gurkhas and their extended families brought to the UK.

Is there any equivalent media star fighting for the Afghani elite snatch-squads?




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Johnny Gurkha is having naughty thoughts about the fragrant Joanna’s Gary Glitter.
 

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