afghan tactitcs

#1
Ok, I promise this is no Wah

I’ve just read the article about there not being enough helicopters for troop movements, but what about the Para’s? Ok you can’t just drop 'em in else they'll probable end up dead before they hit the ground. But what about night drops, surely we can improve on Normandy?

Ok im just a civvie and accept that my knowledge is to say...incomplete...

I would appreciate any sensible responses, just trying to get some sort of understanding (and anticipate a few ribbings)

cmaj

edited to aplogise for double posting
 
#3
cmaj said:
Ok, I promise this is no Wah

I’ve just read the article about there not being enough helicopters for troop movements, but what about the Para’s? Ok you can’t just drop 'em in else they'll probable end up dead before they hit the ground. But what about night drops, surely we can improve on Normandy?

Ok im just a civvie and accept that my knowledge is to say...incomplete...

I would appreciate any sensible responses, just trying to get some sort of understanding (and anticipate a few ribbings)

cmaj

edited to aplogise for double posting
Read up on "Fire Force" tactics by the Rhodesians in the 1970s.
 
#4
CQMS said:
It's not possible to give a sensible response to this question, it makes no sense, you are an idiot.
Seconded.

cmaj I think you will have a long career as an o2 thief.

Kill yourself now and spare us having to read your drivel. :twisted:
 
#5
cmaj said:
Ok, I promise this is no Wah

I’ve just read the article about there not being enough helicopters for troop movements, but what about the Para’s? Ok you can’t just drop 'em in else they'll probable end up dead before they hit the ground. But what about night drops, surely we can improve on Normandy?

Ok im just a civvie and accept that my knowledge is to say...incomplete...

I would appreciate any sensible responses, just trying to get some sort of understanding (and anticipate a few ribbings)

cmaj

edited to aplogise for double posting
There will be a valid reason why Paras are not being dropped into afghanistan at this present time.
 
#6
CQMS it to do with the fact that most reports say there aren’t enough helicopters to move troops, and im assuming that most deep assaults (as in going out to attack Taliban bases) use hello's, and so replace those with some parras and the hellos can be used else where. again as i say im just trying to get a greater understanding.

thanks whitecity, ill have a look
 
#7
Maybe we don't have enough Hercs to start dropping paras.
 
#8
cmaj said:
CQMS it to do with the fact that most reports say there aren’t enough helicopters to move troops, and im assuming that most deep assaults (as in going out to attack Taliban bases) use hello's, and so replace those with some parras and the hellos can be used else where. again as i say im just trying to get a greater understanding.

thanks whitecity, ill have a look
Journo?
 
#9
shortarms said:
cmaj said:
CQMS it to do with the fact that most reports say there aren’t enough helicopters to move troops, and im assuming that most deep assaults (as in going out to attack Taliban bases) use hello's, and so replace those with some parras and the hellos can be used else where. again as i say im just trying to get a greater understanding.

thanks whitecity, ill have a look
Journo?
More likely a fool who can't do any basic research.
 
#10
cmaj said:
CQMS it to do with the fact that most reports say there aren’t enough helicopters to move troops, and im assuming that most deep assaults (as in going out to attack Taliban bases) use hello's, and so replace those with some parras and the hellos can be used else where. again as i say im just trying to get a greater understanding.

thanks whitecity, ill have a look
Ahh now i understand, you want to drop the Paras on Taliban bases at night, and allow the Helicopters to be used somewhere else, which group of Taliban do you command :? 8O
 
#11
its a smashing plan old boy!! Give the top brass a tinkle with your idea and im sure you will be whisked into the tactical planning department and probobaly given a medal you cnut!!
 
#13
Magdovus said:
shortarms said:
cmaj said:
CQMS it to do with the fact that most reports say there aren’t enough helicopters to move troops, and im assuming that most deep assaults (as in going out to attack Taliban bases) use hello's, and so replace those with some parras and the hellos can be used else where. again as i say im just trying to get a greater understanding.

thanks whitecity, ill have a look
Journo?
More likely a fool who can't do any basic research.
He is a journo then. :wink:
 
#14
scarletto said:
cmaj said:
CQMS it to do with the fact that most reports say there aren’t enough helicopters to move troops, and im assuming that most deep assaults (as in going out to attack Taliban bases) use hello's, and so replace those with some parras and the hellos can be used else where. again as i say im just trying to get a greater understanding.

thanks whitecity, ill have a look
Ahh now i understand, you want to drop the Paras on Taliban bases at night, and allow the Helicopters to be used somewhere else, which group of Taliban do you command :? 8O

Have we run out of bombs :lol:
 
#15
no journo, just a guy taking an interest in whats going on out there. and i wasn’t suggesting the idea was a brain box one, and obviously the brass have thought it and thrown it out before i even considered it, but i was just wondering at the reasoning.
 
#17
cmaj said:
no journo, just a guy taking an interest in whats going on out there. and i wasn’t suggesting the idea was a brain box one, and obviously the brass have thought it and thrown it out before i even considered it, but i was just wondering at the reasoning.
No-one can be this stupid, this must be a wah!
 
#18
cmaj said:
Ok you can’t just drop 'em in else they'll probable end up dead before they hit the ground.
How do you work that out? If the MoD did have the balls to lob us in (which they never will) then i'm sure they'll pick a spot away from small arms fire.
 

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#19
C'mon guys, give the man a break. He has said up front that he is civy with no military knowledge but that he is interested.

I know the answer, but its not an unreasonable question for the tax payer to ask why he is paying for Parachute forces if we are not going to employ them to leap out of Hurcs.

At the end of the day if you don't want to answer his question or discuss the issue he has raised then don't post. Most of the post above just come across as rather churlish.

So come on one of you clever clogs instead of stroking your own ego at how smart you are and how stupid he is explain why its a non-starter.
 
#20
Parachuting anything more than a very small unit into those mountains is rather risky from the get go because of the terrain, altitude, and conditions... nevermind performing a mas tac drop with a battalion or more under fire. It has been done of course... the Russians dropped their airborne regiments more than once up there but they also weren't concerned about having thirty percent casualties from landing injuries alone. Also... your talking about Indian country. Any unit dropped in will be isolated and require constant aerial resupply until other ground forces fight their way to them. Airborne operations provide strategic mobility... not tactical. Once they are on the ground paras are as mobile as any other leg infantry formation.
 

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