Afghan President Karzai tells Nato to pull back to bases

[Brit_Bulldog]

Afghan President Hamid Karzai has called for Nato-led forces to move out of Afghan villages and rural areas after a US soldier killed 16 civilians.

He told visiting US defence secretary that Afghan troops should take the lead for nationwide security in 2013.

Meanwhile the Taliban have suspended talks with the US over opening an office in Qatar.

The US has been trying to set up a dialogue with the Taliban in the Gulf state for some time.

BBC News - Afghan President Karzai tells Nato to pull back to bases

 

[DesktopCommando]

hmmm funny last time we did that in Bashra, the US kicked off and blamed us for everything........

 

[Draft Dodger]

who care lets get to ****


last one back to bastions a rotten egg

 

[alib]

hmmm funny last time we did that in Bashra, the US kicked off and blamed us for everything........

Not everything, somethings where Blackwater's fault, our al Malaki, or the Iranians...

 

[jimmys_best_mate]

The first place NATO should pull back from is from around Karzai. Leave him to Afghan security and see how long he survives.

 

[cernunnos]

It's about time the Afghans got back to their normal business, killing other Afghans! More power to them I say.......

 

[phibeck]

Afghan President Hamid Karzai has called for Nato-led forces to move out of Afghan villages and rural areas after a US soldier killed 16 civilians.

That just made my day. Out of the villages and back to the camps - that's the first step in getting our lads and lassies safely home. There's a much bigger picture that I'm very aware of - but my biggesst wish is to get everyone home with as few injuries or deaths as possible. This is a step in that diection.

 

[Busterdog]

Karzai will be on the noon Safi flight to Dubai to catch the 16:55 Emirates for Zurich the day before the last of the 82ndAB Div leave Kabul 'International' - posturing oaf.

 

[bald.paul.101]

I cant believe he's saying this in private. As soon as Nato leaves, he's dead. he's not stupid enough to think otherwise is he ?

 

[Draft Dodger]

I cant believe he's saying this in private. As soon as Nato leaves, he's dead. he's not stupid enough to think otherwise is he ?

sadly i dont think he's stupid enough to stick around. hopefully i'm wrong and we'll get to see his head on a stick.

 

[sunnoficarus]

sadly i dont think he's stupid enough to stick around. hopefully i'm wrong and we'll get to see his head on a stick.

His head on a stick is the least of his worries. The last bloke got his nackers lopped off.

"…Najibullah was at the UN compound when the Taliban soldiers came for him on September 27, 1996. He was castrated before the Taliban dragged him to death behind a truck in the streets. His blood-soaked body was hanged from a traffic light.…"

 

[Draft Dodger]

you know, its not often i agree with the taliban but.....

 

[skid2]

Karzai will be on the noon Safi flight to Dubai to catch the 16:55 Emirates for Zurich the day before the last of the 82ndAB Div leave Kabul 'International' - posturing oaf.

Him, his family his money and all the friends he has bought........let the swiss look after him .

 

[cernunnos]

Look into the eyes, look into the eyes, no don't look around the eyes look into the eyes, three.....two....one...you're under, pretend to withdraw to the bases but don't and don't forget to treble my guards disarm all my troops anywhere near me and guard me all to ****, oh and pay me several trillion dollars and always make me look good CLICK! you're back in the room!

 

[CrashTestDummy]

Bye then, Khazi.

Good luck with securing your backward shithole of a "country" on your own.

 

[alib]

I cant believe he's saying this in private. As soon as Nato leaves, he's dead. he's not stupid enough to think otherwise is he ?

I can't believe he would be saying something else, Kandahar is his power base, USAF scoring stupid own goals there and DC frantically telegraphing it is leaving will have him crawling the walls. I'd assume he's talking to the Iranians and Indians about that as well as the old Northern Alliance leaders and various talibans.

Unlike some of the Western diplomats that deal with him Karzai isn't stupid, he has played all sides before and was closely linked to Gulbuddin Hekmatyar during the 90s.

Of course Najibullah was no fool either and he lasted several years before the Taliban strung him up after the 40th Army threw in the towel. These guys play a very rough game for keeps, the stupid ones don't last even that long.

 

[the_guru]

Karzai will be on the noon Safi flight to Dubai to catch the 16:55 Emirates for Zurich the day before the last of the 82ndAB Div leave Kabul 'International' - posturing oaf.

I personally think a Safi flight would be more dangerous than staying in Kabul.

 

[in_the_cheapseats]

Face it - he can do little else to placate the afghan locals. However, I bet in the background he is desperately trying to find a way out of the shit storm that the lunatic caused.

 

[John Civie]

I thought it had been revealed that he and his family owned millions of dollars worth of property and investment in Dubai so i imagine he'll be on the first C17 out to retire on money he's made out of the the USA and the war in general while his replacment gets the good news from the Taliban.

 

[gallowglass]

If ever there was a case of a politician playing to the home crowd, this latest pronouncement from Karzai is it. Remember, it's not that long ago that he was saying how Afghanistan would side with Pakistan in the event of a Pak-US conflict.

Clearly Karzai is a canny political operator, though he of all people must know that he'll be on notice once NATO/ISAF pullout.

Is there anything to say that events might not degnerate to the point that the intended pullout cannot take place, or might it not just be a case of 'there's an acceptable level of violence, we're off' as it was in Iraq?

Anytime Karzai comes out with this sort of guff, I think back to him coming back into Afghanistan in late 2001 with a US SF/CIA paramilitary team.