aeromed but no Op Alowance

#1
has anyone else had there op allowance stopped after being aeromed? i lost my last 5 weeks because i was aeromed with a fractured ankle wich happened on patrol, the reason being it was not a battle injury, is this right :?
 
#2
The guys who were injured on H12 from my lot (including a work-shy fister who feigned a heart attack) all received the full bonus. It doesn't get stopped, you receive it as a tax-free lump sum at the end once the clerk processes it.
 
#3
Don't know if it's still in place but you had to do 30 days to be entitled to it.

Our chief clerk left on her 30th day after to going sick with mental health problems because she missed her dogs. The CoC were rightly fuming and were putting in for her not getting the bonus or medal.

She was fat and Ginger and TA and she had a face like the back of a figure 11 after a range day.
 

BuggerAll

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#4
Andy if you are no longer on an Op why should you be entitled to an operational allowance?

I realise that you may feel that you are being financially inconvenienced by circumstances beyond your control but anyone who has volunteered to go and not been selected could make the same claim.
 

Joker62

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#5
She was fat and Ginger and TA and she had a face like the back of a figure 11 after a range day.
Be a mate, give us her number!! ^^
 
#7
Andy if you are no longer on an Op why should you be entitled to an operational allowance?

I realise that you may feel that you are being financially inconvenienced by circumstances beyond your control but anyone who has volunteered to go and not been selected could make the same claim.
No they couldn't. The OP was on tour when injured for which there is direction. This thread could have been closed after post 2.
 
#8
Be a mate, give us her number!! ^^
Behave, like I'd have the monsters number, I only vaguely knew her as Mickey and that was because to refer to her as a CC would indicate she was administratively competent.
 
#9
Op Allowance is a daily allowance paid in a single lump sum at teh end of a tour.... if you do less time than some one else you get paid less. Simple really.

I did 3 days of a course the other week, should I have been paid 5 days worth of IA because that is the length of the course if I was starting from the beginning rather than refreshing my qual?

Sounds like the pilots who whinge when they lose flying pay when they are beind a desk...
 
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BlueDZ

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#10
The guys who were injured on H12 from my lot (including a work-shy fister who feigned a heart attack) all received the full bonus. It doesn't get stopped, you receive it as a tax-free lump sum at the end once the clerk processes it.
Are we talking about a certain monkey?
 
#11
Andy if you are no longer on an Op why should you be entitled to an operational allowance?

I realise that you may feel that you are being financially inconvenienced by circumstances beyond your control but anyone who has volunteered to go and not been selected could make the same claim.
thats no comparison tho is it? i was 5 months in and had my end tour date, i was injured doing the job what im lookin for are the definitions as to who does and who doesnt qualify for it to be paid till the end tour with an injury
 
#13
Op Allowance is a daily allowance paid in a single lump sum at teh end of a tour.... if you do less time than some one else you get paid less. Simple really.

I did 3 days of a course the other week, should I have been paid 5 days worth of IA because that is the length of the course if I was starting from the beginning rather than refreshing my qual?

Sounds like the pilots who whinge when they lose flying pay when they are beind a desk...
again no comparison, why would some get and some not get OA when injured?
 
#14
again no comparison, why would some get and some not get OA when injured?
A precedence has been set wherefore personnel either injured in action or non-battle injuries have received the full amount as I see it. The clerks must have direction on this. Have you approached them and received a second opinion from another clerky type? Like I said, this 'heart attack' victim did about 6 weeks in theatre and received the lot to the dismay of those that has completed the full 6 months in the sh!te.
 
#15
I received my full OA when injured at the 4 month point. I've never heard of injuries being described as battle injuries or otherwise. If that were the case why would those that spend 6 months in Bastion receive the same rate of OA when there's no chance of them getting a battle injury?

Also, don't forget to get your AFCS claim in, it will be worth a couple of grand.
 

Joker62

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#16
I received my full OA when injured at the 4 month point.
Aw, c'mon, Dingerr, there's injuries and there's injuries, but you had to go and kick the arrse out of it :)
 
#17
There's no half a job with this call sign.
 
#18
JSP 752 Ch10 S12 refers:
CHAPTER 10

SECTION 12

OPERATIONAL ALLOWANCE

GENERAL

10.1201. Aim. The aim of the Operational Allowance is to recognise the significantly increased and enduring nature of the danger in specified operational locations (SOL), over and above that compensated for within the X Factor.

10.1202. Income Tax and National Insurance Contributions (NICs). The Operational Allowance is non-taxable. This is in accordance with Amendment 6 to The Social Security (Contributions) Regulations 2006 (in respect of NICS) and the forthcoming Finance Act 2007 (in respect of Income Tax).

ELIGIBILITY

10.1203. General. Service personnel in operational locations specified by MOD will be eligible for the Operational Allowance. Qualifying locations will be determined at least every 6 months following PJHQ advice on the danger of current operations and the challenge of a deployment. The qualifying locations and dates on which an Operational Allowance begins and ceases to be payable, in a SOL, will be announced by SP Pol Pay and Manning (Allowances) in a Directed Letter.

10.1204. Eligible Service Personnel. Regular Service personnel, mobilised Reserves and Full Time Reserve Service (Full or Limited Commitment) personnel are eligible for the Allowance if they are in a SOL where the Allowance has been declared as payable.

INELIGIBILITY

10.1205. Ineligible Service Personnel. The following personnel are ineligible for the Operational Allowance as they receive different remuneration packages:

a. Attachés, Advisers and Embassy/ High Commission-based personnel.

b. Loan Service personnel.

c. Sponsored Reserves.

d. Expeditionary Forces Institute (EFI) personnel.

ENTITLEMENT

10.1206. Scope. The Operational Allowance is paid for each day that eligible Service personnel are in a SOL where the Allowance has been declared as payable. The geographical boundary includes personnel serving on RN ships in specified waters and those flying sorties over or into a designated operational area, provided that they directly support the operation. Detailed eligibility for aircrew and personnel whose duties require them to fly over or into a SOL are at Annex A.

10.1207. Continuation of the Allowance. The Allowance will be paid:

a. For the duration of the planned length of the Service person’s assignment to the operational deployment, if the recipient is hospitalised1 in theatre or elsewhere. The Allowance is to be paid for the full length of the planned deployment, up to a maximum of 6 months, even if the Service person is discharged from hospital and does not return to the operational theatre.

b. For the planned length of the Service person’s assignment to the operational deployment, if the recipient dies.

c. When a Service person serving in a SOL is declared ‘Missing’ or ‘Returned from Missing’ (RFM), until such time as the Joint Casualty and Compassionate Centre (JCCC) categorises them otherwise. The following will subsequently apply:

(1). If the Service person is subsequently declared ‘Dead’, their pay account will be credited with the amount that would otherwise had been paid if they had completed their planned operational deployment. If that date has passed, entitlement to the Operational Allowance will cease the day after they are declared ‘Dead’.

(2). ‘Missing’ Service personnel who return and pending repatriation to the UK are re-categorised as ‘Returned from Missing’ (RFM) (eg after a period of detention against their will by a hostile group) will continue to be paid the Operational Allowance until they leave the specified operational location.

(3). ‘Missing’ Service personnel who return and resume their duties in a SOL will continue to receive Operational Allowance.

10.1208. Cessation of Entitlement. The Service person’s entitlement will cease with effect from:

a. The day after they depart a SOL (unless the Allowance continues in accordance with paragraph 10.1207). This excludes days spent out of a SOL on Rest & Recuperation or, for eligible ships, RN standoff time. The rate calculation methodology takes account of projected days out of theatre on Rest and Recuperation.

b. The day after departure, if deploying to another Operational Allowance earning location on the same day. In this instance, the effect is that the payment will be continuous but is payable in one location only ie this clause avoids payment of 2 daily rates of Operational Allowance.

c. The 1st day of any period that pay is not in issue (unless the Allowance continues in accordance with paragraph 10.1207) and for periods for which pay is subsequently forfeited.

d. The 1st day of Absence Without Leave (AWOL) or when an individual is declared as having deserted, whichever is earlier.

10.1209 Concurrent Payment of the Operational Allowance with Other Allowances. The Operational Allowance is payable concurrently with any other allowance for which the Service person is eligible.

RATES

10.1210. Rates of Operational Allowance. The daily rate of Operational Allowance is based upon the tax and National Insurance contributions paid by a Private Soldier, with 5 years service, on his/her salary and separation allowance when deployed for 6 months. The current daily rate is at Chapter 1 Section 6.

METHOD OF CLAIM

10.1211. Method of Claim. Entitlements to the Operational Allowance will be captured by unit HR admin staff in accordance with separate instructions issued by SPVA.

METHOD OF PAYMENT

10.1212. Method of Payment. Payment will be at the daily rate of Operational Allowance, as a lump sum following the end of their period of duty a SOL, via the Service person’s salary.
 
#20
Seems oddly clear and succint. Are you sure that is a genuine JSP?
 

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