Advice Requested - ETS (Educational and Training Services) Officer

sy5148

Crow
Hello all, I am currently a soldier (PTE) in a corps (not regt). But looking ahead for my career, I am interested in becoming an officer at the Army Educational and Training Services (ETS).

My Background:
- I have two degrees - MA (History & International Relations); MSc (Anthropology); and I am now studying for a PhD in Anthropology and expect to graduate in 2 years time;
- I am NOT a native English speaker (I am mentioning this because one of the roles of the ETS officer is to teach English - I am a professional English speaker though);
- I speak a foreign (Chinese) language to a native level;
- I have always enjoyed teaching, and have been volunteering as a cadet forces instructor for 8 years already.

When I finish my doctoral studies, I could become a lecturer/ researcher at the University, but I think that is not as fulfilling as the opportunities ETS might provide. But thinking of career prospect, I don't know if being a University-level lecturer/ researcher would massively outweigh being an ETS officer. So, I would love your advice on the following:

1) I wonder how the prospects and career advancement opportunities are as an officer in ETS (since it's not a large corps and lack front-line roles, would career advancement be slow, say after the 'guaranteed' advancement to Capt?);
2) Attending the AOSB as a soldier (pte) - would this be an advantage or disadvantage?
3) Based on my educational background/ qualification, I wonder if this is what the ETS looking for? (Would I be over-qualified having a PhD, or under-qualified not having any education in teaching?)

Thanks in advance! :)
 
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Speak to your OC
 
You will go to AOSB on their recommendation
 

sy5148

Crow
Thanks @Just_plain_you - would you be able to answer some of my questions on career prospect and skillset?

Also, someone in this thread has suggested Intelligence Corps, how would others think about that? AGC (ETS) vs Intelligence Corps?
 

Glad_its_all_over

ADC
Book Reviewer
I'd be nervous of the Int Corps, given the likely nationality and clearance issues.

@devexwarrior is your fount of wisdom, here - a former senior(ish) ETS officer, who's stood around both the Trailer of Knowledge as a soldier and the Vufoil Projector of Enlightenment as a schoolie.
 

Crafty990

War Hero
Hello all, I am currently a soldier (PTE) in a corps (not regt). But looking ahead for my career, I am interested in becoming an officer at the Army Educational and Training Services (ETS).

My Background:
- I have two degrees - MA (History & International Relations); MSc (Anthropology); and I am now studying for a PhD in Anthropology and expect to graduate in 2 years time;
- I am NOT a native English speaker (I am mentioning this because one of the roles of the ETS officer is to teach English - I am a professional English speaker though);
- I speak a foreign (Chinese) language to a native level;
- I have always enjoyed teaching, and have been volunteering as a cadet forces instructor for 8 years already.

When I finish my doctoral studies, I could become a lecturer/ researcher at the University, but I think that is not as fulfilling as the opportunities ETS might provide. But thinking of career prospect, I don't know if being a University-level lecturer/ researcher would massively outweigh being an ETS officer. So, I would love your advice on the following:

1) I wonder how the prospects and career advancement opportunities are as an officer in ETS (since it's not a large corps and lack front-line roles, would career advancement be slow, say after the 'guaranteed' advancement to Capt?);
2) Attending the AOSB as a soldier (pte) - would this be an advantage or disadvantage?
3) Based on my educational background/ qualification, I wonder if this is what the ETS looking for? (Would I be over-qualified having a PhD, or under-qualified not having any education in teaching?)

Thanks in advance! :)
I've been in the ETS all of 12 months but I'll have a run at this.

Promotion prospects are the same as every cap badge I would suggest. You will serve your first posting as an LDO teaching on CLM, ALDP, DTTT, MLATs etc. Then you could head anywhere really. Once you get to the dizzy heights of Maj. You're looking at training design and assurance which is certainly a good place to be if you're thinking about life after the army. There are a raft of jobs out there for a keen ETS officer, you make the career what it is.

AOSB, I went as a soldier and found it an advantage. I had life experience and was comfortable in that environment. Civvies must be baffled by it.

I wouldn't be put off by being over qualified, we have all sorts of weird and wonderful people in the branch who have done some very interesting things before joining, you certainly wouldn't be unique. We are a strange gathering and it is a completely different experience to most other officer's careers and environments. I work in a team of 5, all with a huge amount of experience either gained in a significant civvy careers beforehand or in another cap badge.
Go for it, I say! Wish I had done it sooner.

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I'd be nervous of the Int Corps, given the likely nationality and clearance issues.

@devexwarrior is your fount of wisdom, here - a former senior(ish) ETS officer, who's stood around both the Trailer of Knowledge as a soldier and the Vufoil Projector of Enlightenment as a schoolie.
After such an introduction what could I do but comment.

As Gladys says, clearance might be an issue with Int. Teaching English language is only one small part of the ETS role.

Your unit should have an ETS officer who visits to look after education matters. Some ‘specialist’ units have one full time.

Your platoon commander should know who the contact is or will at any rate know where the local Education Centre or Hub or whatever they are called now is located. Book a chat with a junior ETS officer and get them to tell you about it. Also talk to those who have been in a bit longer and have a wider experience.

ETS are heavily involved in managing and in some cases delivering foreign language training so your ability would be of interest.

Selection and training are the same as for any other cap badge and there are opportunities to do special courses if that sort of thing appeals to you.

Good luck
 
Hi,

You suggest 'lack front-line roles', which is technically true. About a million years ago (OK, 1993), I found myself (as an ETS officer) as one a team of duty officers for the United Nations HQ in Bosnia-Herzegovina Command and for 5 weeks as the officer briefing the UN Commander, in Sarajevo (which was under siege) on current operations (G3 in military speak).

Quite apart from teaching to somebody else's syllabus the ETS's role involves all its people (not just senior subject matter experts) in defining educational and training needs and meeting them, often at shortish notice.

Your wits, both native and academic, should enable you to make your mark.
 

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