Advice Please

Discussion in 'Int Corps' started by PE80, Jul 26, 2005.

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  1. Your advice would be most appreciated,

    I am a 25 year old graduate, I obtained a 2:1 from a traditional red brick uni. Last summer, I attempted and failed RCB. Having got a CAT 1 at the briefing I performed very badly at the main board. Bitter pill to sallow, but such as life. I am now considering joining the ranks, and the INT Corps in particular. I have taken the BARB test and scored 74, which I'm told is enough for the INTCorps. Here are my questions:

    1. As a grad would I get promoted quicker?
    2. What type of role is open to a newly qualified Int corps Lance Jack?
    3. Is phase two training as disciplined as phase one, i.e. Can you get away at the weekends, if so wish?
    4. What are the postings like for newly arrived Lance Jack's. i.e. Could you go on operation after training.

    Thanks for any advice.
  2. In order:

    a. No, not for just being a grad. It wouldn't be that unusual in the Corps, frankly. What's your degree?
    b. A junior one. You'd be doing a lot of brewbitch-style work while absorbing the skills needed through osmosis and OJT.
    c. Yes, weekends mainly shouldn't be an issue, unless on duty or doing something Phase 2-ish.
    d. Expect to be hot, sandy and bored inside months, wherever you go!

    Best of luck, but bear in mind that by the time you've been in for 15 years, if you decide to stay that long, you'll be 40 and competing with 33-year olds.
  3. Hi,

    Cheers for your reply,

    Got my degree in Criminology. The age factor is something I have thought about, would it be a negative factor if attempting promotion?
  4. cpunk

    cpunk LE Moderator


    1. No. I'm afraid not, though I think it's fair to say that graduates are still sufficiently unusual to get some extra notice taken of them which doesn't do them any harm when it comes to promotion boards etc.

    2. You could find yourself, at a junior level, involved in any discipline the Corps is involved in, from physical security to photographic interpretation. Not a good answer, I realise, but true.

    3. No, Phase 2 is much more relaxed than Phase 1 and you will be free for most weekends.

    4. Once you have finished your training, you will be deployable. The operational tempo is such at the moment that I think you could certainly expect to go on ops within your first year or two after training.
  5. Have you written to RCB and found out where you didn't make the grade? Have you considered a second attempt? I know many who have taken RCB twice and passed the second time around.
  6. Yes, I spoke to my sponsor who in turn forwarded me the RCB report. To be blunt, I really fcuked up! Planning Ex went to shite and I didn’t perform too great in the other assessments. It was/is a massive set back, however, I still have my degree and other career options open to me.

    One last question: How long is the training from start to finish (including phase one)
  7. Not necessarily, although it can bite you in the arse at the later stages of your career, when either your fitness starts to slip compared to your contemporaries, or some bureaucratic age restriction tops you off in rank terms.
  8. I dont think the age is too much of a problem, we have lots and lots of "later entries" into the corps.

    All your other questions have been answered now, so it only leaves me time of training. Phase 1 is 12 weeks, phase 2 is God only knows. It was 18 weeks when I did but things have changed since then. Havent the ACIO/AFCO had any leaflets for you?
  9. Cheers for all your help.

    My careers advisor is a bit shite, always late, sinks of beer (last one is fair enough) He's a nice enough guy, just doesn't seem on the ball when it comes to answering my questions. Good job this forum is here!

    thanks again.
  10. cpunk, have you weeded this post or something?
  11. cpunk

    cpunk LE Moderator

    Nope, haven't touched it. Is something missing?
  12. yep. me and at least one other posted our usual sparklingly witty replies yesterday. today - eez gone!
  13. PE80

    Unfortunately, some of the Careers Office staff know very little about our Corps. So don't expect too much from them.

    Most of your questions have been answered but if I may just add my little bit.

    Having a degree whilst in the ranks is not unusual in our Corps. In fact a few of the officers are out qualified acedemically by many of our soldiers. It has never been, nor will it ever be an issue you may be pleased to know. What it does prove, is that you obviously have an analyical mind, which is a very useful trait if you decide to join.

    The age thing is not a problem at all. One of my best friend in the Corps is a lot older than the other members of his squad and it shows. He stands head and shoulders above his contempories. Also, the comment about competing with 33 year olds when your 40 matters not. I personally don't see those who are that many years younger or older than me any differently.

    Career prospects. Thankfully, our promotion is now based on ability to get the job done rather than acedemic background or any other reason. However, at the same time promotion in the Corps is still more rapid than some other Corps in the Army. But as I said, it is on merit. You may or may not be aware but we are expanding by massive proportions over the next 5 years and as such career prospects are probably better now than ever before.

    The Job. The job is very varied and can be both extremely interesting and dull. I have never done the same job twice and have, on the whole, really enjoyed my time. Yes I have had a few dull jobs but at the end of the day, its only for two years and not for life. You have to take the rough with the smooth as they say. There are several avenues to specialise in, and they are all open to everyone. You are also able to specialise in more than one area. The Op tempo is very high, as with the rest of the Army. However, as a Corps, we are in great demand by the Army as a whole and we do take the hit for deployments possibly a little more than others. Op tours can be extrememly rewarding though and quite enjoyable.

    I personally think the Corps is probably better now than it has ever been in my time in. It is still undergoing a period of great change which will result in a higher profile for the Corps and a good career. I would reccomend it to anyone. Be aware though that alot of other soldiers do not really understand what we are about and we do take a bit of a slagging, unfairly I think. Usually, I find when talking to soldiers from other regiments or corps, that they have completely changed their minds about us after working with us.

    Good luck with the process if you decide to join.

  14. cpunk

    cpunk LE Moderator

    Caramba! How odd. I will check with the COs to see if there are any known problems.