Advice needed regardiing strong family tent

#1
I regularly camp in the desert and on beaches in Oman and the UAE with my wife and 3 kids aged 4, 5 and 7. The problem I have is dealing with strong onshore winds in remote areas. I can guy the tent against the strong wind conditions using bags of sand however the tents that I have had in the past have all been of the dome type of construction with fibreglass poles that have not been robust enough to withstand the constant battering. I have googled and found geodesic designs that use more and stronger poles The Best 6 to 10 Person Tents | Trails.com however these tents all appear to be of a specialist nature and may not be suited to family camping as well as being unobtainable in Middle East.

Therefore I would be gratfeul for advice on a readily available tent (UK?) that has a strong frame which can take multiple guy ropes, is suitable for of 6 people (inc guests) plus sheltering enough kit for 3-4 day camps from sand.

Essential features are:

Standing room inside the tent for sorting out kids needs (I am 6' 1")
Ventilation for hot weather
Robust frame, material and zips
Ability to create seperate spaces for storage/kids to sleep if required

Camping kit is normally carried in the car or on the boat boat so weight is not too much of an issue.

I am grateful for any advice on types and makes of tent, holiday camping experiences in Middle East etc.

Many thanks
 
#2
Buy one in Oman or UAE? Less transit costs....

Failing that

 
#3
Some of the Dutch canvas tents may be suitable. I'll see if I can find the address later on. Just a word to the wise; the Cloggie tents are not cheap
 
#7
Thanks for the replies and links.

My problem is that I have bought locally available tents and they have not stood up to the conditions. I have looked at using 9 x 9 or 12 x 12 frame and making my own canvas but the production costs and weight have put me off.

I don't mind paying the right money for a good tent as we do quite a bit of camping and if it lasts it will be worth it. Some nice stuff on the websites that you have recommended so I will do a bit of research on construction and pole configuration. I am tempted to look for poles that slot together with angle brackets rather than the poles bent under tension with the thought that the angled joints properly guyed will be more wind resistant.

Many thanks
 
#8
would'nt the obvious thing to do is buy a locally made tent of the type used by the nomads couple of thousand years trogging round the desret should have ironed out most of the design faults?
 
#9
The strongest tent we have is a Cabanon, a traditional Continental frame tent. The legs are pegged in as well as the canvas. French made and expensive, though bargains can be had on ebay. If you're near N Yorkshire, come and have a look.

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I have an idea of the winds you mean from Cyprus, to be honest I don't know how well this type would fare as we didn't take it there. I can imagine having to do some digging in.
 
#10
For about 300 pounds you can get an old-school, canvas bell tent, perfect for campaigning up the Khyber pass, tough as old boots and with various modern improvements. I'll see if I can find a link. Warning: they weigh about 30 kg
 
#11
#12
Thanks BL. Interesting difference in design with continental tents where they have internal kitchens etc. All our cooking is done outside so that kitchen area could be bedroom space meaning we could look for a tent that sleeps 4.

Digging is not really needed as we put a bag of sand inside each corner of the tent to hold it down, the main problem is the flexing and twisting of the top of teh tent where the flexible poles cross. Ideally you would leave the fly sheet off so that wind blew through but then tent fills with fine sand. I wonder if I should look at design with ridge pole
 
#13
These frames are fairly rigid, the ridge pole and cross-members are connected with four way brackets which are also braced. The Attwool site may have frame diagrams. Stand by:

No, can't see one. I had a diagram about 8 years ago, try e-mailing them, have a look at the Antigua. Attwools is a good shop near Gloucester on the A38.

A friend of ours in Cyprus bought a traditional Arab tent, very heavy duty, but single room, so you'd have to rig up bedrooms inside it.
 
#14
This is a photo taken on a typical Oman beach camp. My Coleman tent (which did not survive this trip) is hidden behind the sun shade in the middle of the picture. Note the tent nearest the camera which has been very well guyed and is of a superior design. This is the type of thing I am looking for.
 

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Terra-Nova/Wild Country - Family Khamsin or Vaude Badawi 4 Man Family Tent.

Decent alloy poles, up to date fabric, fine pedigree, excellent reviews.
 
#18
RR I looked at the site that you recommended and saw the Wild Country tents. I am a fan of their products and looked at the Citadel 6 and XL.

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From the description below I particularly like that it has "steel Jumbo Poles that are the strongest we've ever used for a family tent"

The new Wild Country Citadel 6 is an excellent choice for larger families due to it's flexible sleeping arrangements, large living space and simple-to-use design.

The 2 bedrooms can be used independently if required, and the larger one has a dividing curtain that can be used to separate children or create a storage space. The steel Jumbo Poles are the strongest we've ever used for a family tent, and allow the creation of a living area that spans over 4 meters! This area has large windows and 2 bug-proof doors that make it comfortable to be in whatever the weather. The huge main door can be converted into an awning with the supplied awning poles, while the smaller side porch offers a space to change out of wet footwear without entering the main living space.

The fully sewn-in groundsheet keeps crawling insects at bay, and the myriad of adjustable ventilation options help to keep the inner fresh and also to reduce condensation build up.

This is the best that I have seen so far, but I will check out how many guy lines I can secure
 

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