Advertising-Free ARRSE

Would you be interested in paying for ARRSE without advertising at £10 per quarter?

  • Yes, although I think your pricing is too low

    Votes: 4 5.1%
  • Yes, pricing is spot on

    Votes: 14 17.9%
  • Not unless you reduce the price

    Votes: 7 9.0%
  • Nope, happy to see ARRSE paid for by adverts

    Votes: 53 67.9%

  • Total voters
    78
#1
Following on from the general discussions about ARRSE sans advertising, we think we're in a position to do this but wanted to discuss pricing. Our initial thoughts were based on a quarterly subscription with £10 as the base figure with discounts for longer terms so:

  • 3 months = £10.00 (or £3.33 per month)
  • 6 months = £18.00 (or £3.00 per month)
  • 12 months = £30.00 (or £2.50 per month)

What are your thoughts - outrageously expensive, better discounts for longer periods, too little?

Note that this would remove all advertising except that in the ARRSEpedia and search results. Last 50 would be ad free though.

Edit - I should have mentioned that this would only ever be optional. There would always be a free version with ads!
 
#2
Excellent Bad CO, I think your pricing is perhaps a little (but only a little mind) low, I was thinking that the £4-£5 per month sort of level would be about right.

Just out of interest, and far more importantly would financial contributors get a funky new medal next to their Avatar?
 
#3
Excellent Bad CO, I think your pricing is perhaps a little (but only a little mind) low, I was thinking that the £4-£5 per month sort of level would be about right.

Just out of interest, and far more importantly would financial contributors get a funky new medal next to their Avatar?
I get porn for that kind of money you know! I am indifferent, the ads don't bother me much tbh.


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Legs

ADC
Book Reviewer
#4
I agree with a little 'gizzit'. Otherwise, what are subscribers gaining that they can't gain by using Adblocker?

I think the prices look fair. Too much and it just puts folk off. Too little and the site loses too much money.
 
#5
The ads could be put in using popunders for those that don't subscribe.

Thought has to be put in as to what happens when a subscriber is banned as well.
 
#6
Apart from the current issue of the latest post in a thread having an advert in the text area, the adverts don't bother me. In fact, some are amusing or even useful.

Viceroy has a good idea, though. A subscribed version with snippets of porn instead of adverts...
 

skid2

LE
Book Reviewer
#8
Can it be payable through something as simple as paypal?

While I have my computer/tablet/stupid head on. I don't get any ads on my tablet, but happy to contribute.
 

Auld-Yin

ADC
Kit Reviewer
Book Reviewer
Reviews Editor
#12
I voted 'No' in the poll above, although I would have no problems in paying a fee for ARRSE, and not just to get rid of adverts.

I think it would create a two tiered ARRSE membership with some people thinking that because they have paid a small amount that they now own ARRSE and are entitled to do what they like. Everyone on ARRSE should be on the same terms. It is bad enough now with people accusing others of being civvies (even some who are actually civvies) and not being entitled to have a say.

The ads can be a pain at times, but they are not too intrusive (except the one in the last post on a page :( ) and if people can't work round them, how do they get on with other sites where the ads are very intrusive and almost take over the site, like some newspaper sites.

To be honest, with the exception again of the last post ad, I don't really notice them unless someone starts a thread about ads! :)

If there are to be fees then it should be across the board. Guests can browse (with ads) but if you want to put your oar in then you are required to cough up for the privilege.

One good side to this is it would cut down on the number of sock-puppets that the site is sometimes bothered with. Bad side is it may discourage membership, although in the past many have said they have browsed for a long time before joining when they see a topic they wish to have a say on, so that may stay the same.

Last question, would the fee be per person or per sign-in username? F'rinstance can a person paying the fee have more than one sign in? There are people who have more than one sign in for genuine reasons - do they have to pay twice (or more :) )?
 

Wordsmith

LE
Book Reviewer
#13
Have you considered a 'premium' membership system? If you're a premium member you get:

-- Storage for 1,000 PM's (ordinary members restricted to say 50)
-- Unlimited posts (ordinary members restricted to say 100 a month)
-- 'Premium' chat room (separate from existing chat room)
-- Etc.

I suspect that if you put a blanket membership fee in place, the site will go into a slow decline as existing marginal members decide they don't want to pay the fee, and new members are put off from joining by the fee.

Having a 'premium' membership may give a boost to site income while still keeping a large membership base.

Wordsmith
 
B

bokkatankie

Guest
#14
If we paid as per your suggestion would the This Tribe and Kit Reviews adverts also be removed?

We already have the donation system of medals etc., all very nice, and what I like about it is that it does not appear to provide any special status or protection from ROP's etc.!

I do not believe that normal subscibing members should get anything else, the lack of adverts would be reward enough if they really did not like them so much.
 
#15
The theme is running and ready to go, and yes without This Tribe ads and the advert tabs at the top (keeping Rum Ration, Rear Party, E-Goat(not us BTW) and KitReviews as friendly sites rather than adverts, although they could also go if requested).

The only remaining advertising is in the ARRSEPedia, which as a different piece of software won't obey the user settings on the main site, and the quick search results from searching using the box in the header bar.

It would be good to throw in some extras, although I don't know what really. ARRSE members already have storage for 1000 PMs for example, rather than the Vbulletin default of 100, so not much to be gained by offering more. Larger avatars would just distort the theme for all so not a good plan. We could allow larger signatures, but once that would be counter-productive. A private forum? An extra light work-friendly theme? And of course sharks with frickin lasers.
 
#16
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Having a 'premium' membership may give a boost to site income while still keeping a large membership base.

Wordsmith
Sorry Wordsmith, I hadn't read your post when writing my last answer.

I don't think we want to do anything to limit the site for unpaid members, simply give a reasonable option to have no ads and I think the system would replace the donations system to some extent too - if someone wants to give a bit, the subscription will be the easiest way and they'll get something in return. A frustratingly aside - the last few words of that sentence mean that we would need to charge VAT.

I wonder if some of the poll respondents have misunderstood the question and thought that we're proposing ARRSE become pay-for only. That is most definitely not the case.

There's a fine balance to be struck between earning money and still running a community site. I think we've got it right, particularly after the reduction in advertising and wouldn't want to compromise that.
 
#17
The theme is running and ready to go, and yes without This Tribe ads and the advert tabs at the top (keeping Rum Ration, Rear Party, E-Goat(not us BTW) and KitReviews as friendly sites rather than adverts, although they could also go if requested).

The only remaining advertising is in the ARRSEPedia, which as a different piece of software won't obey the user settings on the main site, and the quick search results from searching using the box in the header bar.

It would be good to throw in some extras, although I don't know what really. ARRSE members already have storage for 1000 PMs for example, rather than the Vbulletin default of 100, so not much to be gained by offering more. Larger avatars would just distort the theme for all so not a good plan. We could allow larger signatures, but once that would be counter-productive. A private forum? An extra light work-friendly theme? And of course sharks with frickin lasers.
I feel that free members should have the default storage of 100 and paid members have 1000. You could do the same with peoples photo storage.
 
#18
£40 a year is a lot of money for no adverts. You could look at an annual fee which attracts free entry into compo's has a better newsletter and access site media. The problem is 100% of your content comes from your user base and that's a problem. If you want to go into subscription you need to take control of the site and not run it as a sideline and shop. Sorry if that comes across a bit harsh but you do not have the site presence to make a subscription worth while.
 

jarrod248

LE
Gallery Guru
#19
£40 a year is a lot of money for no adverts. You could look at an annual fee which attracts free entry into compo's has a better newsletter and access site media. The problem is 100% of your content comes from your user base and that's a problem. If you want to go into subscription you need to take control of the site and not run it as a sideline and shop. Sorry if that comes across a bit harsh but you do not have the site presence to make a subscription worth while.
I was a member of a site where content was also supplied by members. The owner decided he wanted just £10 a year to access stuff that had been supplied by the members. They started a free forum and buggerred off.
Yes it's been stated a free membership will always be available but this is a tricky one.
 
#20
I dont believe the CO's will go for a subscription only model, just a model based on your tolerance of intrusive ads, and to be honest Arrse ads are getting on my tits but not enough to make me fork out £40 a year :D
 

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