Adult instructor cadet relationship

#1
It has come to the attention of some of the instructors in a ACF county I am involved with that a cadet was involved in a relationship with a adult instructor

However after complaints being made by a couple of instructors to a county level it appears that is being swept under the rug as the cadet was male and the instructor female and complaining instructors were advised to “keep it shut”

whilst they were both over the age of consent i cant help but see this as a missive infringement on a position of trust and we all must be aware of what would be said if it was the other way round

Your thoughts and opinions on this please and also advice on were to go after county level
 
#3
So the cadet knocked you back and you decided to come on here and complain? :)
 
#4
It's certainly unethical, and contrary to goodness knows how many laws, rules and regulations, but why does it bother you?

That's not a rhetorical question ... you obviously that something should be done, and presumably not just because it's "against the rules."
 
#5
Have I stumbled into a newly re-named NAFFI ?

I can't advise you but would the jokers feel the same if it were man/boy or man/girl and the youth was their child ?

It is a serious breech of trust as between a teacher and pupil in a high school.

Call Social Services or some organisation like that.

Good luck and don't walk away from this.

D_B
 
#6
I think that as a newer member of the ACF I should be worried what kind of a unit I have got my self in to when 2 of what seem to be well respected time served instructors are making reputable complaints and are told to keep it quiet

I wouldn’t like this kind of goings on with my kids
 
#10
From my very dim memories of things cadet (like, more than 30 years ago dim) I seem to remember Frimley Park being the national HQ, and hence the place to turn to if County HQ aren't willing to do anything. But it is worth thinking about whether you'll do more harm than good to the cadet by making this a formal issue. That the AI is out of order is beyond discussion, but whether it's worth causing the lad grief to zap her is the question.
 
#13
Did you fancy poking her on camp then get jealous because she was getting smashed by a cadet?

Aww.

But it should be raised at county again and make sure it's followed up. Problem is, it's one word against another. If the cadet doesn't have an issue with it, and the AI doesn't, there's not much that can be done - they'll both just deny all knowledge and she'll claim it's a malicious attempt to get rid of her.

That said, the age of consent changes between a minor and somebody who is held in a position of trust. AIs should likely come in this bracket - acting as the kids carers during camp times - and thus the minimum age is raised to 18. If the cadet is sub-18, then a crime has been committed. But once again, not much can be done if neither party raises a complaint.
 
#14
WHat ages are the instructer and the cadet? If there is only a couple of years between them and the cadet is over 16 then i dont see a problem but if there is a wider gap then i would report them
Their respective ages are irrelevant, This is a position of trust thing, She is abusing that position and as such the county heirachy should take some action.

Your Commandant and CEO have responsiblilty for these issues if they are unwilling to do anything about it then you must go higher.

We cannot as an organisations set any sort of precedent that it is ok for an instructor to have any sort of relationship with a cadet, one has to leave then it will essentially be ok providing that there relationship is "legal"
 
#15
Thoroughly agree with the posters above in terms of abuse of position of trust, but still can't help thinking:

******* good on him
 
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#16
Fvcking lucky little cvnt, the key is in one of your first lines - they are both over the age of consent! Dry your eyes and try and pump one of the other adults unless you are just bitter because you look like the elephant man and couldn't get a shag in a brothel with a blank check.

steve

swift and bold!
 
#17
I'm surprised and a bit concerned that anyone involved with a youff organisation doesn't know exactly what their responsibilities are.

Any sexual relationship between an Adult and a minor (under 18) where there is a position of trust (i.e. the adult is responsible for the minor's welfare in loco parentis) is illegal. You you have evidence of any such shenanigans it is your legal duty to inform an appropriate authority, meaning social services or the police - not the pen pushers at your County HQ.

That said, they key word here is evidence. Your head shed might have told you to wind your neck in because they aren't interested in spreading malicious gossip.
 
#18
AIs should likely come in this bracket - acting as the kids carers during camp times - and thus the minimum age is raised to 18. If the cadet is sub-18, then a crime has been committed.
Not necessarily. If said relationship began before the instructor became an instructor then it is not technically illegal (although a tough one to prove I suppose). There is provision for this under the Sexual Offences Act 2003.

It is still against ACF rules though.
 
#19
Not necessarily. If said relationship began before the instructor became an instructor then it is not technically illegal (although a tough one to prove I suppose). There is provision for this under the Sexual Offences Act 2003.

It is still against ACF rules though.
A have come across an SMI who claims that her boyfriend of 5 years became an AI when she was 17, and the county permitted them to continue their relationship providing it wasn't brought into cadets at any point.

I don't know if this is true, but if so, maybe there is an ACF provision for this too?
 

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#20
Oh please, what a load of cock.

The lad is over 16, stop blarting on with all this toss about positions of trust and children's welfare etc. etc. By the time many posters on this site were 16 (myself included) they were already serving in the proper Armed Forces and ploughing 40+ horrors and whores every weekend.

Just because the lad is a member of a children's organisation it doesn't make him a child.
 
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