ADSC Glencorse Experience

Kevj3241

Swinger
I have just completed my ADSC 2-day assessment at Glencorse and thought it may benefit some recruits to find out a little about the experience. Don't worry I won't be giving any secrets away, but it does offer a little insight to the Assessment Centre.

13-07-2017 (Day 1):

Day 1 of my Army Selection Centre was predominantly spent travelling. 2 trains later I arrived at the Train Station. It was quite easy to tell who else was waiting to be picked up for selection, look for the groups of people, waiting around, dressed smartly and with cases. I would suggest trying to get involved with these guys (and girls) early.

To help incase your train is late, I would suggest you put in the numbers of the selection centre reception and driver in case you are running late..

The coach journey takes about 30 minutes and you will be asked to sit in pairs at the front of the coach and during this period, the assessor explains what will happen when you arrive and throughout the weekend. Basically, from the point of pickup until just your career discussion on the final day you are constantly being assessed.

You will then be asked to produce your photographic ID and when checked will be given a number, this will be your bib number and what you will become referred to for the course of the selection process.

You will then be given a clipboard and pen and asked to find out some information about the person sat next to you. Their name, where they are from, what regiment they are wanting to join and why.

This is a quick icebreaker activity that will be completed at the centre later that evening.


When you arrive you will exit the coach, get your bags and then file into reception to collect your number badge and urine pot. Then you will be shown up to your dorm and told to leave your bags and meet in the briefing room.

Once in the briefing room, the centre Sgt Major will give a quick brief on the process of the weekend and why it is carried out in this way and then will instruct you to fill out some more forms. At this point you will be informed that when addressing any assessor, you should refer to them as “Staff” as there is a mixture of Army and Civilians who will be assessing you.

At this point you will be asked to stand up in your pairs and finish off the icebreaker. The staff will ask for volunteers, I would suggest that you put yourself forward rather than wait to be picked, it shows a confidence and willingness to participate early on. Remember: You are being assessed from the moment you step onto the coach..

Following these activities it is up to the dorm to unpack, then the rest of the evening is yours to do with as you please. For recreation, there is a table tennis table and TV room available.


Lights out at 22:30, but I found that the majority of people were looking to get an early night..


14-07-2017 (Day 2):

Wake up nice and early (05:45), this is just enough time to get up, showered and dressed into the days clothes. Don’t forget to make your bed and fill your urine pot (if you can).

For the first day, I would recommend wearing tracksuit pants and a t-shirt. Today will be spent predominantly waiting around and filling out forms…

Breakfast at 06:30, you are lined up outside and then walked to the mess room, breakfast consists of cooked breakfast, cereal and toast. You are allowed to take one piece of each item if you wish, however make sure you take your plate to the food, not the food to your plate. Remember: you are still being assessed, even on following simple instructions..

07:00 finish breakfast and it is back to the briefing room for another talk. You will then be led out to the medical centre where you will be given a brief by the medical sister. Please make sure you listen to her, she can and does get easily annoyed by people not listening. She is also your first point of contact for any questions while in the medical centre (even asking to use the toilet). The tests you will undertake are a height/weight, urine dip-test, eyesight & colour blind-ness, ECG and then a medical assessment by a GP. This is where you will need your urine pot filled. The tests themselves are relatively straight forward, however the GP is obviously a little more in depth, it basically involves you stripping to your underwear and doing some general activities such as press-ups, walking on your tip-toes and heels and walking like a duck(!). It all feels a bit embarrassing but is used to assess your ability to carry out basic activities within the army.

Contrary to rumours, they do not “cup your balls” and ask you to cough!!

I had indicated on my medical questionnaire that I had used an inhaler once in my life and this made me have to undertake a Spirometry test, basically I had to do a lung capacity test then breathe in pure oxygen trough a mouthpiece and cycle for 10 minutes followed by another capacity test, then a second one 4 minutes later. This isn’t too difficult and I passed it easily.

Lunch will be provided at around 12:00 which you will all be led to. Again, you get one type of meat, and then all the side dishes you would like. Remember: Plate to the food, not food to the plate..

After lunch, the group may end up splitting as there will be some who have fully passed their medical (at which point your badge will be swapped for a coloured bib with your number on) or some who have failed, there were 3 members of my group who failed their medical and they were sent home at this point. If enough have passed, they may be taken away to do the BARB tests, when my time came there were 3 of us who went up. The BARB test itself isn’t difficult, if you have done some online training tests you will be fine, they are exactly the same format except they are touchscreen instead of mouse controlled. The key to this is to get the right answer as quickly as possible. Once this is complete, you are given the opportunity to return to your dorm, this is another good chance to socialise with members of your group or chat to the army staff on-site about life in the army or if you have any questions about your chosen army job. Remember: You are being assessed even in rec time. Be proactive, look keen..

Because I am an old fart and didn’t have my English & Maths GCSE certificates, I had to sit basic numeracy and literacy tests, these are simply english and maths tests and providing you are not a caveman are pretty simple.

Once a large enough group (around 6-8) have been given their bibs, we were taken to do the first of our physical assessments which was a relief to be actually “doing something” rather than waiting around. We were met by the PT Instructor and jogged down to the gym, during this jog the PTI chatted to us, asking what regiment we wanted to join and why, whether we were regular or reservists (be aware, the PTI seems to have something against reservists – don’t take it to heart!) and what our current 1.5m run times were.

Upon arrival at the training area, we were led into the PSSR room where a line of powerbags were set out. The PTI demonstrated the correct technique for lifting the bags onto the platform and the way they were to be lifted back down. Please listen to his instructions, Remember: you are being assessed no only on how well you lift, but your ability to follow instructions.

Following the powerbags, we were jogged out to the tennis courts where a line of jerry cans were set out to do the jerry can carry. Again, we were instructed on how to do the test. Try, if you can, to keep inline with the PTI, don’t worry, his pace isn’t that fast and the majority of our group could keep up. The aim of this is to carry the cans 150m, however as re-iterated throughout the weekend, your best effort is the requirement.

Once these were all done, it was rec time again.

Evening meal is served at 18:00 and again, same rules as lunch time. Remember: Plate to food. I know it seems like this is a trivial thing, but it is watched for and press-ups are threatened for repeat offenders.

Following the evening meal, the last of the medical assessments and tests are carried out by those who were not finished, for me it was more waiting around.

At around 18:00 you will attend another brief about tomorrow’s activities, collect your coveralls, hard hat and clean bedding then it is personal (recreation) time until lights out.

Note: Keep the clean bedding folded, it will guide you for folding your dirty bedding.


Again, lights out at 22:30


15-07-17 (Day 3):

Wake up nice and early again (05:45), this is again just enough time to get up, showered and dressed into the days clothes. You will also have to strip your bed and fold the bedding into a set size (Tip: use your clean bedding as a guide).

Today will mostly be spent outdoors doing activities.

Again, first thing was breakfast at 06:30, same routine as the previous day.


There were a couple of people who were taken off to finish off BARB or TST, so there was a little more waiting around.

Following the final testing, we were all told to go put our coveralls and hat on and line up in ranks outside. The PTI then joined us outside for some gentle warm-up exercises, on the spot jogging, press ups, an activity touching various parts of your body on the ground and a leopard crawl.

Then you are jogged over to an old assault course area and demonstrated the Grenade Throw activity. This is a basic activity checking your ability to follow instructions Remember: Listen to the instructions and watch the demonstration. This is a quite enjoyable activity and don’t worry if you miss the target, this is a test of following instructions, not a target practice..


We were then taken (jogged) down to the team tasks area by the gym and because of the size of our group ,were split into 2 teams (9 & 8). We were then tasked with carrying a rotation of 3 team tasks, all involving a scenario that may well be encountered during active service. We were read the scenario, and given a set of rules/criteria that must be adhered to. Each time a rule was broken, we had to return to the start and begin again. You are only given 10 minutes per task. The key to success in these tasks is a clear plan, the ability to adapt that plan and team work. Even though this is a team task, you are still being assessed as an individual. The key to individual success is to keep talking and encourage the team. Above all be vocal and try to include anyone you see being quiet etc.. A key word that could be used is Urgency, remember in the scenario’s, you need to imagine that other people’s lives depend on the success of the task.


Following this we were told to remove our coveralls and hat and place them in the gym changing rooms. Then we were given the opportunity of a toilet break and some hydration prior to the run. Take the opportunity to have a drink, but don’t overdo it (or you will be seeing the water again later…). We were then lined up outside the gym and taken on a slow jog to the route used for the run. At Glencorse there are 3 options for the run depending on the weather, generally they try to utilise an old railway line. The old railway line has been levelled out and tarmaced over and is a public footpath.A word of warning, if it is (or has been) raining, he ground will be slightly muddy so watch your step…

You will all line up and then set off together, the key to this is to run at your pace and not try to keep up with the front runners. My advice is to take it gentler on the outward stretch and push a bit harder on the home stretch. A word of warning, on the way back you will see a patch of light that you will assume is the bridge just before the finish line so will push even harder.. IT ISN’T… A number of my group made that assumption (including me) and nearly burnt out before the finish line.

The key is to watch someone in front of you (if possible), when they sprint off, assume the finish line is close and get ready to sprint to the finish.

Once everyone is over the finish line, you get a couple of minutes recovery before walking back to the barracks.


Once back, you collect your coveralls and hat and walked back to reception and lined up outside. From here coveralls went in one dirty washing back, and you bib in the other one. Hard hats went back in the store and we had 40 minutes to shower and change into appropriate clothing for the Career Discussion. Remember: This is effectively an interview, so dress appropriately.

We were called down to the briefing room and given another presentation about what would happen next. This was basically information about what the career advisors would be doing and the closing ceremony. We were called for by name and/or bib number. I was lucky that I was one of the first called up.

Again, this is an interview, be polite, shake the advisors hand and appear interested in everything the advisor is saying.

You will be asked questions that you should already have answered before at some point (family support, drug use, tattoos etc.) you will be asked what your knowledge is of army life and why you want to join the army (regular or reserves) and what you know is expected of a soldier. Remember: CDRILS – If you don’t know them, learn them… they WILL help during the discussion.

You will then be told about the results of your BARB, TST, Numeracy & Literacy tests and your results for the Physical assessments including your run time. You will be asked whether you are pleased with the results, even if you are not, I would suggest saying you are.. If you say no, it implies you did not give 110% in everything..

You will then be told whether you have been successful or not and (hopefully) offered the position you had put as job choice 1.

You will then be allowed to return to you the recreation area until all other candidates are finished. You may want to get changed at this point out of your formal clothing into something more comfortable.

For reservists, you will then be called into another room to discuss your attestation, whether you want to do it there or at your regiment and fill out some forms basically enrolling in the army.


Lunch is served at 12:00, and you will all parade down to the mess for 30 mins lunch. Remember: Plate to food. It is then back to the briefing room to finish the career discussions.

Once these are all completed, it is back into the briefing room for the closing ceremony, you will be called out one at a time to collect your completion certificate and goodie bag. Once all candidates have been up, there is a round of applause for all.

The reservists that have chosen to attest at the centre will then be called up and asked to repeat the oath of allegiance to the Queen. Following that you will be an enlisted soldier.


You are then loaded up onto the coach and delivered back to the train station for the journey home.

I would suggest that if you have time, there is a Wetherspoonsat the train station and the coach driver is willing to drop off nearby. It is a good moment to celebrate with the other candidates…..


ABOVE ALL – Try to enjoy the experience, there will be people there that annoy you, it is inevitable, but remember you are there to get a job in the Army, chances are you will probably not meet those candidates again – Don’t let them jeopardise the opportunity by becoming aggressive..


TIPS:

1. Listen to instructions – There is nothing more infuriating to the Staff than having to repeat themselves endless times.
2. Always be stood to attention – No hands in pockets, always stand up straight when in formation.
3. Give 110% in the physical activities – The staff WILL notice.
4. Preparation – Learn the CDRILS, they will help during you career discussion.
5. Hydration – Take a water bottle and use it.
6. Ask Questions – If you don’t understand something ask and ask again until you do.
7. Relax – If you are tense about something you will not do your best.
8. Don’t Worry – If you fail a physical test, provided you gave it your best effort, that is all that you can do.
 
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Kevj3241

Swinger
OJ1995 - Glad this could be of help to someone else.

Jarrod248 - You will be surprised how many people had to keep being told... To a lot of them it seemed ore natural to spoon the food to their plate.
 

Randy McStab

Old-Salt
Firstly great post, and I am sure will help loads of people. Welcome to the Army :)
Could you ammend the time and place you met and were picked up please. We try not to set patterns in the Army, but this is run by Craptia..

Your friendly local MI guy..
 

Kevj3241

Swinger
Firstly great post, and I am sure will help loads of people. Welcome to the Army :)
Could you ammend the time and place you met and were picked up please. We try not to set patterns in the Army, but this is run by Craptia..

Your friendly local MI guy..
Done.
 
Interesting.
I keep asking why the RNR can't do the whole thing in one weekend, and being told that it is not possible. Here I now I discover that the AR manage it.

Lord knows how many people we loose from being asked to do countless short appointments during the working week.

Thanks for that.
 

OJ1995

Swinger
Would you recommend turning up at the train station in a suit or should I save the suit for the final interview? First impressions count so I was going to turn up smart.

thoughts?
 

Kevj3241

Swinger
OJ - I would recommend turning up in smart, plain jeans (without rips or holes) a shirt and shoes.
Save the suit for your career discussion.
The first impressions do count, however so long as you aren't in trackies etc.. you should be ok.
 

OJ1995

Swinger
I now know what you mean with the 'take your plate to the food' after hearing it 100 times over the two days haha..
 

Kevj3241

Swinger
How did it go OJ?
Did you pass?
 

OJ1995

Swinger
Passed selection yeah, medical went well but they're requesting more information on a toe I broke a few years ago, the doctor there says it's just a case of a few ticky boxes and I'm ready to start training, she told me not to worry.
Interviewer said I was looking at a strong B, possible A grade, he said he just needed to finalise a few things so fingers crossed this medical is ticked off asap.
 
I owe you a massive thanks Kev because of you, I passed selection today with a strong A grade. Yes granted, I had to put the work in but it made it so much easier when there are little pointers to keep you on your toes... Great attention to detail, fantastic job mate!

Remember, future recruits who read this thread "plate to food and not food to plate" you are assessed the moment you get on that coach. This thread is the most informative one in terms of the assessment centre at Glencorse.

Good luck everyone and hope to see you all on the other side. It's all about how badly you want it.

The staff there were brilliant there too and couldn't have been better.
 
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Kevj3241

Swinger
I owe you a massive thanks Kev because of you, I passed selection today with a strong A grade. Yes granted, I had to put the work in but it made it so much easier when there are little pointers to keep you on your toes... Great attention to detail, fantastic job mate!

Remember, future recruits who read this thread "plate to food and not food to plate" you are assessed the moment you get on that coach. This thread is the most informative one in terms of the assessment centre at Glencorse.

Good luck everyone and hope to see you all on the other side. It's all about how badly you want it.

The staff there were brilliant there too and couldn't have been better.
Glad the post could be of help to people. ;):salut:
 
Hi mate, I'm fairly certain it depends on your job choice and how many intakes they have annually, your grade at the assessment centre for your particular job choice and whether or not if it's a straight pass or not.. Meaning medical deferrals (doctors notes) things like that.

Contact your CSM if you're concerned and please don't take my word for it.

Good luck!
 

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