ACF Commissioning Course

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  1. Ok, ive deliberately posted this seperately to avoid any discussion on the TCB.

    What is the current ACF Commissioning process?

    Advice on all aspects, preperation, courses needed, anything would be appreciated.

  2. 1. Go to Commandant and say "Hey Sir, I'd please like to be commissioned".
    2. If you're an ex-RSM in Blankshire ACF you then get handed Captains pips, but if not read point 3.
    3. Commandant arranges interview with you to see if you fit the bill.
    4. Commandant gives you a copy of Army Form B6610A (Application for a Commission in the TA), MOD Form 134 (Official Secrets Act Declaration), MOD Form 1109 (Security Questionnaire) and medical certificate to be completed by your doctor.
    5. You complete paperwork and return it.
    6. You get an invite to any local Brigade in-house potential officer course (some brigades don't bother).
    7. You go to Westbury for the CFCB.
    8. If you pass the CFCB you are Gazetted as a 2Lt and hey presto you're an officer.

    Being an officer attracts no end of perks (sarcastic chuckle) such as the £17 a year uniform upkeep allowance and your uniform becomes your personal property (Wow wee). You are also subject to military law 24/7 (being commissioned on the TA General List Section B).

    To be eligible for a commission you must be between 21 and 52 years old, have completed induction courses and ITC, have a CRB enhanced disclosure and be recommended by your Commandant. If your Commandant doesn't like you, you are pissing in the wind.

    I did TCB, but I'm guessing CFCB is pretty similar but designed for slightly more 'pear-shaped' candidates. You have 2 or 3 interviews, write an essay on a topical subject, lots of command tasks, current affairs and general knowledge test, leaderless tasks, intelligence test (Ravens test on spacial awareness and perception - load of bollocks), planning exercise (the best way to escape from a crocodile infested lake when your speedboat catches fire, or some such bollocks), group discussions and final race. Trick is to be honest, try your hardest, don't be arrogant and help the other people in your syndicate.

    If you want to know more Rab PM me. I can give you some tips on the planning exercise - one of the most feared components of any of the commissioning boards.
  3. Cheers matey, im a bit young for it at the moment, I didnt know you had to be 21.....
  4. That's okay Rab - just transfer to my County - we'll take anyone!
  5. CFCB is along the lines of the TCB only it is more 'cadet orientated' - can only be a good thing IMHO - they are two very different jobs. Still has the infamous planning ex. Essay is on a cadet subject and there is no general knowledge test - only an iq type computer exam. No physical assessments as such but if you are really unfit you will get embarassed on the command tasks, and obviously not do so well - some are fairly energetic. One interview - quite in depth and obviously cadets centred.

    All assessing staff are ACF so they know what they are talking about.

    I believe the criteria also need you to have done 1 annual camp, ITC and AI cse - so it's at least 1-2 yrs from entry as a PI.
  6. Age must vary by sector/county. I'm 19 and neither the Commandant nor the CEO have mentioned this as a potential obstacle to my commissioning.

    You do not have to have completed your AIs before getting a commission but if you haven't done the AIs you need to complete it within 2 years of gaining the commission (or so my CEO tells me)
  7. I did my TCB at 19 & joined the ACF. Is the age limit for CFCB different?
  8. Yes it is different and you will have to be 21 to attend the course.

    I was one of the guinea pigs for CFCB, AI's course is mandatory!
  9. I believe you are only subject to military law whilst on duty.
  10. Nope, its 24/7, ive heard that from every serving ACF Officer ive spoken to.
  11. No Mongoose. ACF officers, as with all other officers on the Active List of the Regular and Territorial Armies, are subject to miltary law all the time. Before someone tries to tell me 'but they aren't on the Active List' well yes they are. The Active List TA includes officers of Group A, B and the General List - the first paragraphs of Chap 4 TA Regs 1978 explains in more detail.

    Non-commissioned people of the TA are a different kettle of fish - they are only subject to military law when they are undergoing training or are mobilised.
  12. Spot on C_B
  13. Fair enough :>
  14. To clarify this subject.

    You’ll be between 21 and 45, enjoy working with young people, be reasonably fit and be able to think on your feet. No military experience is required as you will be fully trained and there are no minimum educational standards although ideally you will have 5 GCSE’s and 2 A levels. You’ll also want to develop your own management and leadership skills. You will be prepared to commit to 2 evenings per week, plus occasional weekend and annual camps. However, the time spent shouldn't impact on work or personal commitments. All applicants will need to pass an enhanced CRB check and security clearance.
    Having been identified during initial interview stages as a potential officer candidates wanting commissioned service must first undergo both induction training and an Initial Training Course as a minimum prior to attending CFCB (Cadet Force Commissioning Board) at Westbury.
    ACF Officers hold a Territorial Army type B Commission; type B means there is no reserve commitment. To be commissioned into the ACF all potential officers must pass a Cadet Force Commissioning Board (CFCB) at the Army Officer Selection Board (AOSB) at Westbury in Wiltshire. The CFCB is very similar in content to both the Regular and TA selection boards. As part of your initial training and to enhance your leadership skills you will spend time on our Acorn Training which involves invaluable personal development training run by past Westbury staff on all the different aspect of the CFCB such as Planex training and Command Tasks.

    The Cadet Force Commissioning Board:

    Adult Cadet Force Instructors encourage young people to develop into capable, confident young adults by putting themselves through structured, demanding and rewarding programmes of training. The Cadet Forces Commissioning Board (CFCB) selects for a probationary commission in the Army Cadet Force (ACF) those candidates with sufficient qualities of character, ability and leadership to command adult and cadet members of the ACF. All ACF (less potential specialist ACF Officers) regardless of age must attend a CFCB at Westbury. It is a hugely responsible role and the selection process, through the CFCB is outlined below.

    The Selection Process
    THE BOARD. You will be divided up into groups of eight or nine, with males and females working together. The Board is a two-stage affair. First, you will be briefed on some of the basic techniques used at Westbury, afterwards, you will be assessed by a Board presided over by a Cadet County Commandant and staffed by experienced AOSB assessors. The officers assessing you will b interested in your approach to problems and challenges, and your attitude towards other members of the group – both as a team player and as a team leader.

    Board Composition
    The Board consists of the following members:
     PRESIDENT. An ACF Colonel.
     VICE PRESIDENT. An ACF County Commandant (Colonel).
     DEPUTY PRESIDENT. A TA Lieutenant Colonel.
     GROUP LEADER. A TA Major.

    Day One - Briefing Phase
    ARRIVAL. Candidates should arrive at Westbury by Friday 6.30 pm.
    INTRODUCTORY TALK. The President of the Board, the AOSB TA Colonel, will give an introductory talk, which will include some useful tips for the next few days. Following this, you will introduce yourself to the other members of your group.

    Day Two - Briefing Phase
    PLANNING EXERCISE TUTORIAL. This is a tutorial on how to approach the next day’s Planning Exercise. An example of the Exercise can be downloaded from the website (
    OUTDOOR TASKS TUTORIAL. Later in the morning your Group Leader will introduce you to some useful practical techniques for use on the Outside Tasks.

    Day Two - Testing Phase
    OPENING DISCUSSION. The group opening discussion lasts for 40 minutes. During this time we will invite you to discuss a number of moral and community interest topics.
    MENTAL APTITUDE PROFILE TESTS. These consist of the following elements:
     Verbal Reasoning Exercise. This will test your ability to think logically about written information.
     Numerical Reasoning Exercise. This will test your ability to solve numerical problems.
     Abstract Reasoning Exercise. This will test your ability to solve practical problems.
    The exercises take 70 minutes in all to complete; examples with instructions and advice can be downloaded from the website (
    PLANNING EXERCISE. This theoretical written exercise tests your ability to use people, equipment and time effectively. You are given an hour to study the narrative and write up your solution. Then each group discusses the problem with the aim of reaching an agreed plan. Importance is attached to individual contributions and your reaction to the ideas of others. Finally you will be asked questions about aspects of the exercise to test whether you can think on your feet.
    WRITTEN EXERCISE. This is an essay built around a hypothetical cadet training
    INTERVIEW. You will interviewed by your Vice President, a Cadet County Commandant. The style and tone of the interview is relaxed and informal. You will probably be asked about your interests, ambitions and why you want to become a Cadet Forces Instructor.
    LECTURETTE. In the afternoon, each candidate gives an informal five-minute talk to the group on a specified subject. There will be five topics (taken from your CV) to choose from, and you will be given time to prepare. At the end of each lecturette, the speaker answers questions from the group.

    Day Three - Testing Phase
    COMMAND TASKS. The last morning is devoted to outdoor Command Tasks, where each member takes a turn at being in command of the group. The objective is to complete a specified practical task within a time limit. The Group Leader will brief you and give you a few minutes to develop a plan. You then explain the task and your plan to the rest of the group before executing it.
    What Happens Next?
    The Board Officers start assessing candidates after the Command Tasks. This is the first time the assessors discuss the candidates, and every point raised by the Group Leader and the Deputy President is explored in detail. The results of the Board are sent by post the following morning.
    If you pass, you will have demonstrated that you have the potential to be commissioned as a Cadet Force Instructor.

    Hope this helps all.
  15. as above this has changed and all candidates attend westbury.