ACF and TA

#2
bibo_boy said:
Can you help out at Cadets whilst still serving with TA?

Do you have to join ACF as a AI? Or can you just assist as needed?
I'm sure exactly what the score is on that but i know we 2-3 TA people helping out with our Coy on a regular basis

T-T
 
#4
bibo_boy said:
Ting-Tong said:
I'm sure exactly what the score is on that but i know we 2-3 TA people helping out with our Coy on a regular basis

T-T
Cool do they assist the other instructors?
Yes,

The walt AI's don't like them though and take every oppertunityti stab them in the back. Ignore them and you'll be fine

T-T
 
#5
Actually, i've got a lot of spare time on my hands at the moment and there's a cadet det. just down the road from my house. Who should I contact to help out?
 
#6
ytomk said:
Actually, i've got a lot of spare time on my hands at the moment and there's a cadet det. just down the road from my house. Who should I contact to help out?
I'd just give then local unit a call....
 
#7
bibo_boy said:
Can you help out at Cadets whilst still serving with TA?

Do you have to join ACF as a AI? Or can you just assist as needed?
I help out on a monday and thursday night with the cadets at the local ACF det and the TA pay me to do it, i also attend all their summer camps and get paid for that too, in 2004 i spent a total of seven weeks on cadet summer camps. however, NEVER NEVER become an adult until you have helped out and experienced it for yourself, i refuse to become an adult instructor as i would loose all the benefits (like the pay) of being a TA Soldier attached

no offence intended to ACF staff but some of you guys are choppers like i am sure Regular/TA Soldiers are :)
 
#8
Every organisation has its cnuts. Theres also a pool of dedicated adults who put lots of their own time into keeping detachments ticking over.
 
#9
Ting-Tong said:
The walt AI's don't like them though and take every oppertunityti stab them in the back.
Isn't Bibo Boy a bit of a walt? Couldn't handle Signals, Couldn't handle P Coy and has now mysteriously left the TA :?
 
#10
Xplosiverab said:
Every organisation has its cnuts. Theres also a pool of dedicated adults who put lots of their own time into keeping detachments ticking over.
i totally agree with you there, however i dont agree with senior cadets coming straight back in as adults, they have not matured enough and i reckon a 3 year gap or a years TA/Regular service would be acceptable
 
#14
I actually applied to do AI as well as do my own TA commitment. I found that the whole process of joining the ACF was really long and drawn out and it took nearly 2 months just to get the initial paperwork sent out. It takes forever to just get to Potential Instructor. I was welcomed with open arms by the detachment commanders, however I was warned that the higher ranks don't really like the idea of TA doing ACF as well due to the commitments of both mixing i.e parade nights mixing and availability at weekends. I really was put off by the higher ranks when I met them and had spoken to guys who had to change to specialist TAC so they didn't have to parade during the week. I also heard about other guys who had been 'asked' to hand in kit etc due to their commitments with the TA. I suppose what I am rambling on about is yes you CAN do both but it may not be worth while the hassle and the time it takes to process you application.
 
#15
stabandswat said:
I actually applied to do AI as well as do my own TA commitment. I found that the whole process of joining the ACF was really long and drawn out and it took nearly 2 months just to get the initial paperwork sent out. It takes forever to just get to Potential Instructor. I was welcomed with open arms by the detachment commanders, however I was warned that the higher ranks don't really like the idea of TA doing ACF as well due to the commitments of both mixing i.e parade nights mixing and availability at weekends. I really was put off by the higher ranks when I met them and had spoken to guys who had to change to specialist TAC so they didn't have to parade during the week. I also heard about other guys who had been 'asked' to hand in kit etc due to their commitments with the TA. I suppose what I am rambling on about is yes you CAN do both but it may not be worth while the hassle and the time it takes to process you application.
It depends on your county.................I have been in 2 ACF countys and carried out a TA commitment with no problems in fact I have recived full suport from both of them.......The 2 months paper work is held up mainly because of referances and CRB / disclosure Scotland Checks that are carried out on every adult joining the ACF............At the end of the day cadets are Children and as a youth organisation checks have to be made on it potential adults who look after them.
 
#16
The 2 months wait was for the CRB and application paperwork!! I agree that is a very worthwhile job and as it involves kids the people who apply should be vetted thoroughly but why does it take so long to get the paperwork to you? The guys at the ACF I went to told me they had waited for an eternity just to get their applications approved and get into green kit. I personally went to every parade night for 3 months until family issues meant I had to move otherwise I would have stayed. I will certainly be re-applying in the near future.
 
#17
Hmm this topic has raised a few questions.

I happened to be in Millets the other day buying a last minute piece of kit, and one of the staff started having a dig at the OTC, and i responded, so anyway it transpired he is an AI (think SNCO) at the ATC that trains at the same TA centre as my OTC.
He asked my mate and I if we would help give fieldcraft lessons to his cadets.

I'm happy to do so, I might even be able to wangle some pay out of it, but regardless it will be valuable teaching experience.

In the past I have helped with my old Cub unit, and wasnt, as far as I am aware, vetted. (although i was never entrusted with anything particlarly dangerous, or left alone with them) I am currently 19, so classed as an adult.

My question is, could I literally rock up on the drill nights and take a lesson, or would I have to be offficially 'attached' in some way?

Nothing has been confirmed yet, since I'm away from uni over the summer, and obviously it will have to go through both CO's, but I'd appreciate a heads up vis a vis technicalities :D
 
#19
Yeah, as far as I am aware... you can work with the kids without being vetted BUT you MUST have a PI or AI with you at all times. I would for your own sake make sure you adhere to this.
 
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