Accumulated Campaign Service Medal

#1
Can anyone provide me with the official qualifying periods/operations etc for this medal? I have already searched the forum - some say OSMs don't count, some say that they do. I would like to read it in black and white and then show it to our clerks - as opposed to telling them that I read it on a website somewhere/heard a bloke in the naafi/mess say so!
 
#2
It should be set out in DCI's mate - I don't know which one but I am sure someone will!!!

You need 1080 days service which qualifys for either the GSM(NI) or the OSM(Afghan/Iraq) and that's it. Having said that I got mine just from NI so maybe the rest don't count?????????????
 
#3
theatre-veg said:
Can anyone provide me with the official qualifying periods/operations etc for this medal? I have already searched the forum - some say OSMs don't count, some say that they do. I would like to read it in black and white and then show it to our clerks - as opposed to telling them that I read it on a website somewhere/heard a bloke in the naafi/mess say so!
This may help:
http://britains-smallwars.com/Medals/Accumulated.html

Got a tenner?
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#4
36 Months is about right I got tossed the ACSM some years ago for NI and the "Operational Theatre" time is non-transferable ie time accumulated is applicable to one theatre (Campaign) only, in my case NI and you cannot add NI to Telic, to Afghanistan etc to make up the 36 months total. Mind you the way it is going more than a few of us will be picking up the Telic ACSM...

Bottom line, 36 months in NI. 36 months in Afghanistan, or 36 in Iraq.
 
#5
I left the Army before the OSM, but the ACSM, which I have, was initiated as follows- 36 months service in a theatre that qualified for the award of a GSM. Mostly NI of course but Op Haven and others were not that uncommon. It is as the names suggests "accumulated", so it did not all have to be in one theatre, ie 6 months Op Haven 2.5 years NI would have got you it, and it did not all have to be continuous.(Contrary to crap I was told when serving)


I am out 5 years so this may have changed, but a lot of rubbish was circulated about the qualification for this when I was in, and I suspect the same is true now. Just check the DCI, I learned never to trust those who will dismiss you quickly, as often no matter what they try to pretend they know less about the subject than you do, and what difference does it make to them if they give you a bum steer?

An easy way to see if you are entitled is to see your clerk and apply for it, I did that when I could not get an exact answer to how long was required to find out I was 28 days short, but at least you get the DS answer.
 
#7
2clicksleft said:
36 Months is about right I got tossed the ACSM some years ago for NI and the "Operational Theatre" time is non-transferable ie time accumulated is applicable to one theatre (Campaign) only, in my case NI and you cannot add NI to Telic, to Afghanistan etc to make up the 36 months total. Mind you the way it is going more than a few of us will be picking up the Telic ACSM...

Bottom line, 36 months in NI. 36 months in Afghanistan, or 36 in Iraq.
Having read the bumf on the ACSM, you can mix and match NI with Afghanistan and Telic, although Im unsure about Sierra Leone, but I would imagine that if the OSM for Afghanistan counts, then so should the OSM for SL.
I for one dont care Veggie boy, cos I got mine for being really sad and spending 5 years and 6 weeks in NI.
Now get the brews in, bitch.
 
#8
The pucker gen word on the street is 1095 accumulated days in a theatre where you qualify for GSM, OSM(Afghan and SL) Theatres which are issued with a specific medal don't count. Hence Bosnia, Kosovo, Falklands and Gulf War etc, don't go towards qualifying date. Get your clerk to ring Glasgow to see how many days you have. Our clerk did and found out that I had qualified by over 30 days. They don't give em to you, you have to chase em!
 
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#10
So do ex regs qualify by default or is there a cut off date?
 
#11
Now, here is a question for those who know or can give an appropriate answer....

36 months service toward the CSM 1962 and OSM etc...

What about soldiers, who have been awarded the GSM 1918-1962 and the CSM 1962 with an accumulated service of over the required 36 months!

Does service, which led to the award of the GSM 1918-1962, count???
 

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#12
Now you really would be retired so that would be a good case. How would you apply or would you have to purchase said medal & get engraved at own cost?
 
#13
Even if you are retired the government has to issue you with your medals if you are entitled!

This does not cover replacement medals.

The reason I asked is because my dad, who died last year, should have had the "south arabia" clasp to his CSM.... but never had it issued (sloppy clerks in this case).

Upon requesting the clasp at the AMO.... they denied he was ever posted to Aden!!!!! Well cor blimey... his discharge opapers proved them wrong and "they are looking into the matter".

So, I thought that they would love me requesting the ACMS for my father.

Oh, and the buggers denied him the Canal Zone medal (better said) clasp because of 4 days or so......
 

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#14
I remember a case where the GSM and NI clasp was issued so a funeral could take place as the lad died on ops inside the qualifying period (28 days help here?) so they may relent as he has passed away.
 

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#15
In theory those of us with a 2 year tour and a 4 month op plus additional time in Ulster either further tours or CWS at Moscow, NIPG etc qualify then! Wow an extra gong for the CSM to threaten to stick up my ARSE! which is what he promised the first one. I can apply and then send it to my MP in disgust like my last one!
 
#16
ugly said:
I remember a case where the GSM and NI clasp was issued so a funeral could take place as the lad died on ops inside the qualifying period (28 days help here?) so they may relent as he has passed away.
you only have to step foot into a theatre such as NI, SL, Afghanistan, Bosnia, Kosovo or Iraq and get injured or killed and you qualify for the gong
 
#17
In 1998 Her Majesty the Queen graciously approved the introduction of the ACSM specifically to recognize multiple tours of campaign service in Northern Ireland.

The ACSM is awarded for aggregated service since 14 Sep 1969 in those theatres where the CSM 62 with clasp has been awarded. These are Northern Ireland, Dhofar, Lebanon, Gulf Kuwait, Northern Iraq and Southern Turkey and Air Operations Iraq. Operations prior to 1969 DO NOT COUNT, neither does service where the GSM 1918-62 has been awarded.

The original purpose of the ACSM was to recognize 36 or more months service which have qualified for a clasp or clasps to the GSM 62. Qualifying service for medals that are awarded for specific theatres such as Rhodesia or the Falklands will not count towards the ACSM since such service is already recognized by the award of a specific medal. Since the introduction of the ACSM, the CSM 62 itself has been superceded by the OSM (Sierra Leone, Afghanistan and Telic). OSM service thus counts towards the ACSM.

To be awarded the ACSM an individual must have completed a total of 36 months campaign service. A month is defined as 30 days (36 months = 1080 days) and part months may be accumulated. For example a soldier who served for a two year tour in Northern Ireland (735 days) and completed three emergency tours of 87, 92 and 177 days (total 356 days) has aggregated a total of 1091 days and will qualify for the ACSM having aggregated 36 months and eleven days. It should be noted that leave taken and courses attended out of province will not count as aggregated service but leave taken in province will.

Regarding retired soldiers, the Army only has service records on computer since 1986 and only keeps pay records for 6 years so this is another example where a medal is not automatically issued to the recipient but has to be applied for.

How to apply:

All applications should be made in writing (do not telephone) to:

The Army Medal Office
Government Buildings
Droitwich
Worcs WR9 8AU

The application should state that you are applying for the ACSM and should give the following details:

Service number, rank and full name
Regiment
Date of birth
Date of enlistment
Date of discharge or retirement
Details of service (including dates of deployment and locations if possible)

The Medal Office will retrieve the soldiers's service records to confirm the application. If successful the applicant will be sent the medal, if not he will be informed in writing.
 

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#18
Cheers i WILL PULL MY SERVICE RECORD BOOK AND HAVE A DECKO WITH A CALCULATOR
 

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#19
Bummer 780 days which even if adding time at Courts witness section in Moscow camp I could probably push 800. I suppose even if Falklands was added 1985 I would be 8 months short. never mind save me the embarrassment of asking for it and being told to get my coat.
 
#20
Thanks for the info - certainly beats being told to feckk orf!
 

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