According to General Sir Nick Carter we aren't spending enough on "modernisation"

In a nut shell, so basically the head shed is asking for more money to be set aside to finance more advances into our kit and capabilities in plain English. The real question is; what do we think we don't have after upgrading and modernising our kit for the last 20 years since lessons learned in Telic and Herrick...

"In an interview with Sky News for Remembrance Sunday, the chief of the defence staff offered a vision of Britain's army of the 2030s, saying it could comprise 90,000 human soldiers and 30,000 robots."

"He also revealed a desire for a multi-year budget settlement from the Treasury this month to enable the military to make the long-term investments needed to modernise."

"The chancellor scrapped plans for a multi-year spending review for government departments in November because of uncertainty related to COVID-19.

Instead, one-year budgets are being prepared, though talks are continuing to see if the Ministry of Defence can have a different settlement.

Turning to the UK, the top commander said he did not know whether the Treasury would give defence a multi-year budget settlement.

"At the moment there are negotiations going on in a very constructive way," General Carter said.

"But clearly from our perspective we are going to argue for something like that because we need long-term investment because long-term investment gives us the opportunity to have confidence in modernisation.

"Modernisation essentially means you are going to park some capabilities, perhaps from the industrial age, and want to look forward to some of the capabilities you need for an information age.

"And having the confidence to do that of course means you need confidence in your long term investment."
 

Cold_Collation

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Funding issues and operations notwithstanding, the questions are:

"Will the army be in a better state once he steps down than when he took it over?"

and

"Does it have a coherent plan for the future?"

Decide for yourselves.
 
" the chief of the defence staff offered a vision of Britain's army of the 2030s, saying it could comprise 90,000 human soldiers and 30,000 robots."

...the Guards are set to to get a big boost then...
 
The real question is; what do we think we don't have after upgrading and modernising our kit for the last 20 years since lessons learned in Telic and Herrick...
Upgrading? You mean soldiering on with kit bought as UORs that we can't afford to replace with something more relevant to our present/future operations?
 

Sarastro

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"In an interview with Sky News for Remembrance Sunday, the chief of the defence staff offered a vision of Britain's army of the 2030s, saying it could comprise 90,000 human soldiers..."
Well as the latest defence review shows, he's succeeding on this front.

...and 30,000 robots."

Not so sure about this one.
 

Cold_Collation

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I struggle to place 'Carter' and 'succeeding' in the same sentence, other than to describe his own personal advancement.

He's been an absolute disaster for the army.
 
I struggle to place 'Carter' and 'succeeding' in the same sentence, other than to describe his own personal advancement.

He's been an absolute disaster for the army.
Hasn’t he been around for far too long now? Time for some fresh ideas from a new CDS? Navy or RAF 4 star to step in this time around?
 

Cold_Collation

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Hasn’t he been around for far too long now? Time for some fresh ideas from a new CDS? Navy or RAF 4 star to step in this time around?
One gets the impression that he's been held onto on the chance that some his less-than-stellar decision-making comes home to roost.

But in answer to your question, yes. Way too long.
 

Sarastro

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One gets the impression that he's been held onto on the chance that some his less-than-stellar decision-making comes home to roost.

But in answer to your question, yes. Way too long.
He's actually not, but it does seem that way. I have the same impression, but facts say otherwise.

I suspect your mind is doing some trick that forgets Stu Peach was CDS until mid 2018, and elongates Carter's time as CGS (4 years) because he was so ubiquitous since 2012 - his natural flair for self-promotion along with the A2020 project - that it seemed like he was CGS long before he actually was. Arguably he was de facto CGS in that period, given that A2020 had more impact than anything Wall did as CGS. For better or for (I agree) worse, he's been the most influential officer of the post-Afghanistan Army just by winning at hang tough.

While in both cases he's on the longer end of those posts (CGS about the same period as Wall and Jackson, CDS for less than 3 years when 3 years is expected), he's within the norms. He should, however, be on his way out.

Personally I hope Radakin takes over. His willingness to decimate (more than decimate ... quadrimate?) headquarters and VSO by 40% demonstrates, to me, that he gets a core problem of the modern military. Just replicating that one reform across Defence and the Army would do more of value than Carter has done in the best part of a decade.
 
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Cold_Collation

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He's actually not, but it does seem that way. I have the same impression, but facts say otherwise.

I suspect your mind is doing some trick that forgets Stu Peach was CDS until mid 2018, and elongates Carter's time as CGS (4 years) because he was so ubiquitous since 2012 - his natural flair for self-promotion along with the A2020 project - that it seemed like he was CGS long before he actually was. Arguably he was de facto CGS in that period, given that A2020 had more impact than anything Wall did as CGS. For better or for (I agree) worse, he's been the most influential officer of the post-Afghanistan Army just by winning at hang tough.

While in both cases he's on the longer end of those posts (CGS about the same period as Wall and Jackson, CDS for less than 3 years when 3 years is expected), he's within the norms. He should, however, be on his way out.

Personally I hope Radakin takes over. His willingness to decimate (more than decimate ... quadrimate?) headquarters and VSO by 40% demonstrates, to me, that he gets the core problems of the modern military. Just replicating that one reform across Defence and the Army would do more of value than Carter has done in the best part of a decade.
Good post.

I guess it's just that when you have to endure rather than enjoy an individual time has a way of dragging.
 

Auld-Yin

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He's actually not, but it does seem that way. I have the same impression, but facts say otherwise.

I suspect your mind is doing some trick that forgets Stu Peach was CDS until mid 2018, and elongates Carter's time as CGS (4 years) because he was so ubiquitous since 2012 - his natural flair for self-promotion along with the A2020 project - that it seemed like he was CGS long before he actually was. Arguably he was de facto CGS in that period, given that A2020 had more impact than anything Wall did as CGS. For better or for (I agree) worse, he's been the most influential officer of the post-Afghanistan Army just by winning at hang tough.

While in both cases he's on the longer end of those posts (CGS about the same period as Wall and Jackson, CDS for less than 3 years when 3 years is expected), he's within the norms. He should, however, be on his way out.

Personally I hope Radakin takes over. His willingness to decimate (more than decimate ... quadrimate?) headquarters and VSO by 40% demonstrates, to me, that he gets a core problem of the modern military. Just replicating that one reform across Defence and the Army would do more of value than Carter has done in the best part of a decade.
My bold - I suspect that for that one reason alone there will be a sustained and determined campaign to ensure he does NOT get the job.
 

Bubbles_Barker

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He's actually not, but it does seem that way. I have the same impression, but facts say otherwise.

I suspect your mind is doing some trick that forgets Stu Peach was CDS until mid 2018, and elongates Carter's time as CGS (4 years) because he was so ubiquitous since 2012 - his natural flair for self-promotion along with the A2020 project - that it seemed like he was CGS long before he actually was. Arguably he was de facto CGS in that period, given that A2020 had more impact than anything Wall did as CGS. For better or for (I agree) worse, he's been the most influential officer of the post-Afghanistan Army just by winning at hang tough.

While in both cases he's on the longer end of those posts (CGS about the same period as Wall and Jackson, CDS for less than 3 years when 3 years is expected), he's within the norms. He should, however, be on his way out.

Personally I hope Radakin takes over. His willingness to decimate (more than decimate ... quadrimate?) headquarters and VSO by 40% demonstrates, to me, that he gets a core problem of the modern military. Just replicating that one reform across Defence and the Army would do more of value than Carter has done in the best part of a decade.
I agree about Radakin - but he certainly doesn't espouse any Joint views which even as 1SL you'd expect him to take into account.
 
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