Abused Iraqi Orphans found by Coalition and Iraqi Troops

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#2
Chief_Joseph said:
http://www.iraqslogger.com/index.php/post/3247/CBS_News_Scoops_Baghdad_Orphanage_Shocker

http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/i_video/main500251.shtml?id=2946323n

http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/i_video/main500251.shtml?id=2946054n

:pissedoff: I hope the fecking microbial brained sh1tbags responsible have their balls ripped off for this
Now let's translate it from English to English.

We have seen something that was unthinkable during Saddam's rule. American invadors implanted corrupted puppet "government" that is busy to steal as much as they can. Meanwhile orphans (including those that became orphans thanks to the Americnas) are completely forgotten.
 
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KGB_resident said:
Chief_Joseph said:
http://www.iraqslogger.com/index.php/post/3247/CBS_News_Scoops_Baghdad_Orphanage_Shocker

http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/i_video/main500251.shtml?id=2946323n

http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/i_video/main500251.shtml?id=2946054n

:pissedoff: I hope the fecking microbial brained sh1tbags responsible have their balls ripped off for this
Now let's translate it from English to English.

We have seen something that was unthinkable during Saddam's rule. American invadors implanted corrupted puppet "government" that is busy to steal as much as they can. Meanwhile orphans (including those that became orphans thanks to the Americnas) are completely forgotten.
Sergey thats a helluva translation. Incidentally the kids have learning difficulties, a point not made readily clear so its highly likely they would have been in care in any event. And (bad English but WTF) as the US troops found them and cared for them maybe a small thank you is in order.

CJ I'm with you on this one - they people who didi this are scum and should be sent away for life :twisted:
 
#4
shocking
 
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KGB_resident said:
Chief_Joseph said:
http://www.iraqslogger.com/index.php/post/3247/CBS_News_Scoops_Baghdad_Orphanage_Shocker

http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/i_video/main500251.shtml?id=2946323n

http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/i_video/main500251.shtml?id=2946054n

:pissedoff: I hope the fecking microbial brained sh1tbags responsible have their balls ripped off for this
Now let's translate it from English to English.

We have seen something that was unthinkable during Saddam's rule. American invadors implanted corrupted puppet "government" that is busy to steal as much as they can. Meanwhile orphans (including those that became orphans thanks to the Americnas) are completely forgotten.
You f*cking ARRSEhole!

Prove your statement that it wouldn't have happened in Saddam's day or go f*ck yourself with a big stick.

Am I angry? Your Damm right this story hasn't even broken on UK television yet but they are running a lead story on SKY and BBC about fur coats made from Dogs and cats. Oh dear what a shame never mind! And if anyone here wants to get all upsept about animal rights feel free and if you don't like my opinins I don't give a sh1t.

These children were left to die, and if you get the chance to see the full CBS footage then do so (Everyone) it is truly shocking.

My opinion is that you can judge a society by the way it treats its most vunerable. And these children were thrown on the scrap heap literally left to die.
 
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KGB_resident said:
Now let's translate it from English to English.

We have seen something that was unthinkable during Saddam's rule. American invadors implanted corrupted puppet "government" that is busy to steal as much as they can. Meanwhile orphans (including those that became orphans thanks to the Americnas) are completely forgotten.
No you're right, in Saddams day they would have been given a nice new shirt, with a pocket on the breast where an upstanding member of the Bathe Party would have placed a grenade minus the fly off lever then run away!

Then again you probably think that Stalin was a hero of the people, especially the 26 million he exterminated!
 
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Right hate to be the hardened realist here but under Saddam whether you like to admit it or not society functioned albeit in haphazard way.
Now with Iraqi society in turmoil the most vulnerable are being left behind - the priority of the Iraqi government is security not care for the vulnerable. Abuse is therefore going to increase in any society where basic law and order is not being met and government is not functioning properly.

The pictures are distressing and if you are truly shocked do what I will do and support one of the few last NGOs like the IC out there.


edited to add UN? report on health and welfare under saddam - when I find it.

http://www.humanitarianinfo.org/sanctions/handbook/docs_handbook/UNICEF - Children in Iraq.pdf
 
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castlereagh said:
Right hate to be the hardened realist here but under Saddam whether you like to admit it or not society functioned albeit in haphazard way.
Now with Iraqi society in turmoil the most vulnerable are being left behind - the priority of the Iraqi government is security not care for the vulnerable. Abuse is therefore going to increase in any society where basic law and order is not being met and government is not functioning properly.

The pictures are distressing and if you are truly shocked do what I will do and support one of the few last NGOs like the IC out there.


edited to add UN? report on health and welfare under saddam - when I find it.
Thats not to hard! things did run under Saddam however the kind of behaviour displayed by the guards, keepers etc is learned behaviour or do you think that they got up one morning and thought I know lets fcuk up these kids really good. I'll put a tenner on it that this kind of thing has been going on for years its just that it was hidden away. Thoughts!
 
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BiscuitsAB said:
castlereagh said:
Right hate to be the hardened realist here but under Saddam whether you like to admit it or not society functioned albeit in haphazard way.
Now with Iraqi society in turmoil the most vulnerable are being left behind - the priority of the Iraqi government is security not care for the vulnerable. Abuse is therefore going to increase in any society where basic law and order is not being met and government is not functioning properly.

The pictures are distressing and if you are truly shocked do what I will do and support one of the few last NGOs like the IC out there.


edited to add UN? report on health and welfare under saddam - when I find it.
Thats not to hard! things did run under Saddam however the kind of behaviour displayed by the guards, keepers etc is learned behaviour or do you think that they got up one morning and thought I know lets fcuk up these kids really good. I'll put a tenner on it that this kind of thing has been going on for years its just that it was hidden away. Thoughts![/quote]

I'm 100% with you on this one. Arabs don't like dealing with disabled people and especially don'tl ike dealing with people with a learning difficulty .And before the fcuking bleeding hearts start the usual racist bollox - its not. Its a cultural thing with Arabs.
 
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Too shocking for words. They were left to die; I can't get my head around the sheer level of inhumanity that whoever did this has.

My wife's a pyschologist and deals with learning disabled kids on an everyday basis, and relates the improvements they experience by the techniques employed and their growing self confidence.

These poor children must be so mentally scarred, where the hell do you begin ?
 
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BiscuitsAB said:
KGB_resident said:
Chief_Joseph said:
http://www.iraqslogger.com/index.php/post/3247/CBS_News_Scoops_Baghdad_Orphanage_Shocker

http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/i_video/main500251.shtml?id=2946323n

http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/i_video/main500251.shtml?id=2946054n

:pissedoff: I hope the fecking microbial brained sh1tbags responsible have their balls ripped off for this
Now let's translate it from English to English.

We have seen something that was unthinkable during Saddam's rule. American invadors implanted corrupted puppet "government" that is busy to steal as much as they can. Meanwhile orphans (including those that became orphans thanks to the Americnas) are completely forgotten.
You f*cking ARRSEhole!
Hi BiscuitsAB! Nice to hear you.

BiscuitsAB said:
Prove your statement that it wouldn't have happened in Saddam's day or go f*ck yourself with a big stick.
As we all know Saddam (or Sharon? don't remember who exactly) used to eat children. So likely the children would await ...err his breakfast or dinner.

BiscuitsAB said:
Am I angry? Your Damm right this story hasn't even broken on UK television yet but they are running a lead story on SKY and BBC about fur coats made from Dogs and cats. Oh dear what a shame never mind! And if anyone here wants to get all upsept about animal rights feel free and if you don't like my opinins I don't give a sh1t.

These children were left to die, and if you get the chance to see the full CBS footage then do so (Everyone) it is truly shocking.
You are right the children were left to die. But by whom? By current Iraqi 'government' (read a gang of American puppets). I suspect that American lawmakers approved big enough money to support Iraqi poor orphans. But how these money are being spent? Only Allah knows.

BiscuitsAB said:
My opinion is that you can judge a society by the way it treats its most vunerable. And these children were thrown on the scrap heap literally left to die.
Absolutely agree. Now we see what newly born 'Iraeqi democracy' means.
 
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I watched this on the American ABC network news on TV, a shocking discovery with plenty of pictures of US troops feeding and caring for the unfortunate youngsters . The item lasted about 5 minutes and was followed by a terse, one line by the newsreader on the US airstrike that had killed 7 children in Afghanistan. We then moved on to other news...
 
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So much for the Muslim world being a caring world.As usual, it takes the troops to find out how the Iraqi treats its vulnerable people with mental health problems.If they get the bloke who ran this centre why don't they strip him and tie him to a bed for a few years to see how he manages on what he put those poor youngsters throough.
 
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BiscuitsAB said:
KGB_resident said:
Chief_Joseph said:
http://www.iraqslogger.com/index.php/post/3247/CBS_News_Scoops_Baghdad_Orphanage_Shocker

http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/i_video/main500251.shtml?id=2946323n

http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/i_video/main500251.shtml?id=2946054n

:pissedoff: I hope the fecking microbial brained sh1tbags responsible have their balls ripped off for this
Now let's translate it from English to English.

We have seen something that was unthinkable during Saddam's rule. American invadors implanted corrupted puppet "government" that is busy to steal as much as they can. Meanwhile orphans (including those that became orphans thanks to the Americnas) are completely forgotten.
You f*cking ARRSEhole!

Prove your statement that it wouldn't have happened in Saddam's day or go f*ck yourself with a big stick.

Am I angry? Your Damm right this story hasn't even broken on UK television yet but they are running a lead story on SKY and BBC about fur coats made from Dogs and cats. Oh dear what a shame never mind! And if anyone here wants to get all upsept about animal rights feel free and if you don't like my opinins I don't give a sh1t.

These children were left to die, and if you get the chance to see the full CBS footage then do so (Everyone) it is truly shocking.

My opinion is that you can judge a society by the way it treats its most vunerable. And these children were thrown on the scrap heap literally left to die.
Before you continue riding that high horse of yours padner, there is somethings you need to consider. Since this war WE unleashed things have, because of it, got so insecure there that the charity Children in Need has had to leave the country.
Now whilst it is quite understandable you getting all aerated and lashing out, but first think.
ALL societies decend into babarism when war is unleashed upon them. Its the time when the rats in any society emerge from the sewers and take advantage of the chaos. And you have forgotten Abu Gahrib?
Now, do you think the american architects of this war give flying fcuk for the welfare of the weak and vunerable?
They are the main abusers of ALL the people involved in this.
 
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TartanJock said:
So much for the Muslim world being a caring world.As usual, it takes the troops to find out how the Iraqi treats its vulnerable people with mental health problems.If they get the bloke who ran this centre why don't they strip him and tie him to a bed for a few years to see how he manages on what he put those poor youngsters throough.
This is nothing new. When I lived in Aden as a child in the 60s, I remember asking my parents why there were so many deformed children begging. I was told that their parents did this to them, as they could earn more money as beggars if they were crippled.

I'm not saying it's right, far from it, but it's not new and it's not just Iraquis. Think of what was found in Romanian orphanages after the fall of Ceaucescu. Think of the large number of our own children who were abused in care over the last 50 years. Look at the number of children who die in Africa every day because Western Governments won't allow cheap AIDS drugs to be sold for them, won't allow fair trade, etc.

The human race has a dark side, there is no doubt.

And I have nothing but admiration for those soldiers in Iraq who have been looking after these children, and everyone else who fights this kind of abuse, in however small a way.

Maybe next time NCH, Red Cross, Christian Aid, the WI or whoever, comes knocking for money, clothes, or whatever, we should give double!
 
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VerminWA said:
KGB_resident said:
Now let's translate it from English to English.

We have seen something that was unthinkable during Saddam's rule. American invadors implanted corrupted puppet "government" that is busy to steal as much as they can. Meanwhile orphans (including those that became orphans thanks to the Americnas) are completely forgotten.
No you're right, in Saddams day they would have been given a nice new shirt..., with a pocket on the breast where an upstanding member of the Bathe Party would have placed a grenade minus the fly off lever then run away!

Then again you probably think that Stalin was a hero of the people, especially the 26 million he exterminated!
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/iraq/vignettes.shtml

May 11, 1999

During one of our first meetings with humanitarian workers in Iraq, we were told that economic sanctions have not only caused the deaths of thousands of children each month, but have created a breakdown of the family structure, with many children now forced to help with the family income.
...
The orphanage in downtown Baghdad was clean and bright and the children, who ranged from week-old infants to 5-year-olds, wore identical colorful pajamas. There were almost as many women volunteers as children on view.
...
The orphanage was supported by the government and by wealthy donors
...
Abu Ali, whose job it is to escort members of the news media wherever they want to go during their stay in Baghdad, translated while the orphans sang songs of welcome to the visiting journalists.

"Our father Saddam Hussein shows us how to be a teacher," the children chanted in unison, with one little boy stepping out and shaking his fist emphatically to the last words of the verse.

"Our father Saddam Hussein shows us how to be a farmer," the children chanted, and another little boy stepped out from the group and shook his fist.

"Our father Saddam Hussein shows us how to be a soldier," the children chanted.

This time an older girl stepped out from the group and said, "And we will kill the American invaders." The children smiled and clapped their hands.
 
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Am I alone in not being shocked?

While I would heartily agree that the people responsible for this should be the subject of violent and terminal retribution, it's not a situation that is limited to Iraq, nor is it any indication of the current or past Iraqi government's attitude.

This sort of thing happens throughout the world, not only in "less civilised" countries or those in turmoil. Examples of such treatment, to kids, to the elderly, to the mentally retarded - just about any group of less able people who end up in some form of institution - occur in the "free, democratic, first-world" nations as well. Doubtless similar news reports could be found of abuses in UK and USA.

That it has been found to occur in Iraq has one saving grace - the country has the death penalty. I hope it's invoked.
 
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putteesinmyhands said:
Am I alone in not being shocked?

While I would heartily agree that the people responsible for this should be the subject of violent and terminal retribution, it's not a situation that is limited to Iraq, nor is it any indication of the current or past Iraqi government's attitude.

This sort of thing happens throughout the world, not only in "less civilised" countries or those in turmoil. Examples of such treatment, to kids, to the elderly, to the mentally retarded - just about any group of less able people who end up in some form of institution - occur in the "free, democratic, first-world" nations as well. Doubtless similar news reports could be found of abuses in UK and USA.

That it has been found to occur in Iraq has one saving grace - the country has the death penalty. I hope it's invoked.
Exactly, but lets give praise where it's due, this was a fine piece of propaganda which buried bad news elsewhere...
 
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hansvonhealing said:
Exactly, but lets give praise where it's due, this was a fine piece of propaganda which buried bad news elsewhere...
This was my thought as well. What were they thinking of, getting the cameraman in before untying the kids?

It smacks of blatant propaganda, hopefully masked by shock value.

(Doesn't change my attitude with regard to the perpetrators, though).
 

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