A Yank's questions on RUC Ruger fiirearms: the ACC-556 (Mini-14) and Security Six

#41
The last Sterlings in the Province (and probably in UK service) were withdrawn from use in 99 (Ballykelly Pads security), they were semi auto only.

M1 Carbines were old and knackered before they were ever issued to the RUC according to old Mr Bilborough (Rifles instructor at Bordon in the 80s), but it was a well designed rifle for its job...
 
#43
The last Sterlings in the Province (and probably in UK service) were withdrawn from use in 99 (Ballykelly Pads security), they were semi auto only.

M1 Carbines were old and knackered before they were ever issued to the RUC according to old Mr Bilborough (Rifles instructor at Bordon in the 80s), but it was a well designed rifle for its job...
The M.1s were new Universal civilian ones when delivered in the 70s, not saying much though as they were total crap and poorly made . I saw the fault shown below in happening on the range at Ballykinler , though the whole cocking handle came apart.

Universal M1 Carbine Production History
 
#44
Last M.1s were replaced around that time ,I moved from Holywood which still had Sterlings, M.1s and Ruger rifles in December 91 (last time I carried the M.1 was when deployed on level 2 MSU duties to the city centre Oct-Nov 91) to Woodbourne who had the "new" MP5s and HK 33s.
It would have been early in the year, possibly Easter weekend. It was a busy sunny Saturday anyway.
 
#45
RUC carried the following from the 70'sto the 80's that I know of:
.38 S&W Webley No. VI revolver
.380 ACP Walther PP
Ruger Security Six .357 revolver. .357 Semi-jacketed, semi-wad cutting softpoint rounds were issued. .38 special was used for initial training only. No, Speed Six, .38spl plus p from around 1993
Ruger SP101 .357 , No .GP100 replacing Speed Six when they went out of production
VIP Escorts had S&W Model 59 Hi-cap 9mm pistols. as did HMSU
Sterling SMG Semi-auto only. No, some had full auto blocked in the early 70s with a spot weld behind the fire select all returned to auto by 1978
M1 Carbine
.303 Lee-EnfieldNo.4 MKII, until around 78/79 "B" specials had MkIII until disbandment
5.56 Ruger Mini-14 Tri-burst. AC 556 rural ,semi auto Mini 14 urban (usually)
SLR 7.62
H&K G33 with scopes for the snipers. , No, G3 SG1 and Enfield Enforcers for snipers , 33s issued to all stations by 1992/3 , G3 to MSU and rural "hard" stations.
Browning Auto Shotgun

Special units got special guns.(SPG, E4A etc.) Rumored UZI, AR15 AK47/74 and various other handguns.
There was only one factor deciding any purchase; namely cost. The firearms Training Branch did studies and submitted detailed reports outlining the best guns for each role. The only ones ever selected were always the cheapest. Same with ammo. They had to stop using some ammo in the Walther because the heads would work out of the case as it was carried in day to day usage. Some of the Webley ammo was WWII era stuff.
I have Mini 14 SUIT mount in my gun box.
SPG and country divisions/stations were the only ones to get the .30 caliber rifles for the most part.
 
#46
He had a LOT to do with the Ruger ban, as well as the plastic paddy son of a bootlegger who went for a swim in his car.
Tip O'Neill and Chris Dodd to name another couple. Even after 9/11 a lot of police department "Emerald Clubs" were still anti-RUC and pro the commie pira. Granted mostly out of ignorance. The Irish Club in Glastonbury, PRoCT was still holding "Irish Aid" fund raisers to "help the refugees in North Ireland". They ignored the fact that the funds were given directly to two of their favorite speakers: Maginnis and Adams.
 

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#47
He had a LOT to do with the Ruger ban, as well as the plastic paddy son of a bootlegger who went for a swim in his car.
Ted Kennedy was his[/I dad too ?
 

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#48
Tip O'Neill and Chris Dodd to name another couple. Even after 9/11 a lot of police department "Emerald Clubs" were still anti-RUC and pro the commie pira. Granted mostly out of ignorance. The Irish Club in Glastonbury, PRoCT was still holding "Irish Aid" fund raisers to "help the refugees in North Ireland". They ignored the fact that the funds were given directly to two of their favorite speakers: Maginnis and Adams.
As you say, mainly out of ignorance.
But there was (is ?) a lot of that about.
 
#49
I have to confess this thread brought the S&W Model 59 to mind asI had forgotten about it. I picked one up for my collection and put a mag downrange as soon as I brought it home. Nice but no Glock.
 

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